A great tragedy.....

I've been replaying FF7 and I just recently came across the part that's emotionally the most difficult for me.... I know it's inevitable as part of the game's story and that there's no secret ressurection trick to use, but every time I play, this part just gets to me... I keep asking "why did such a wonderful, beautiful character so full of life and love have to die?" This time I hit that part during a very emotionally difficult time in my life.... My job is going down the drain you see, so this time the stress hit me extra hard so I just had to share my feelings with this audience who will surely understand my pain.

My beloved Heidegger, I will always miss you... :crying2:

Wow, it's um...just a game. I cried, but that's because it was unexpected for me. Of course, I still cry when I watch the episode where Dinobot dies in Beast Wars, so I guess I can't say anything about expectedness.

You know, there's a secret that lets you revive Heidegger?

I felt the same way when quick reply was disabled from these forums for a few hours.

I think it is the music more than anything that gets to people in that scene. Without that music I don't think the scene would have had the same effect.

Aeris's theme in my opinion is the best musical theme ever created for a video game. And her character type was perfect for that music to fit into.

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Originally Posted by darkchrono

I think it is the music more than anything that gets to people in that scene. Without that music I don't think the scene would have had the same effect.

Aeris's theme in my opinion is the best musical theme ever created for a video game. And her character type was perfect for that music to fit into.

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Umm... did you even read the first post? We're not talking about her.

xD

Actually, I thought it was a shame that Rufus had to die. He was one of the most badass bosses in the game.

We never actually SEE Heidegger die, so it's possible that he survived the Proud Clod's disintegration.
Never fear, he might return in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children.
In a bikini.

*SPOILERS!*


I didn't care about Heidegger's death so much, but I felt sorry for Rufus when he died.

Big D: Heh. Heidegger in a bikini, lying on the beach of Costa del Sol. xD But I hope FF7 AC won't be a big desperation attempt from Square to cash off with a sequel where everyone is resurrected.

Yeah, I could actually sympathize with Rufus. Because he is a badass.

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Originally Posted by King Bahamut

Wow, it's um...just a game. I cried, but that's because it was unexpected for me. Of course, I still cry when I watch the episode where Dinobot dies in Beast Wars, so I guess I can't say anything about expectedness.

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X_X Oh dear god, yes. That kills me every time I watch that episode.

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Originally posted by HanaKirei
X_X Oh dear god, yes. That kills me every time I watch that episode.

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I have managed to become quite obsessed with Code of Hero. I have the script memorized, and such, and I was practically bawling by the time I was done with it. Same thing with Heidegger's death.

I, like Sephiroth1999AD, cared more about Rufus than I did about Heidegger. Though without him, we couldn't have Cait Sith's "Gwahahahahaha and Kyahahahahahaha are up to something" line again.

Rufus... You'll always be that sexy beast in my heart!!!!!!! *sobs*

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Originally Posted by Big D

We never actually SEE Heidegger die, so it's possible that he survived the Proud Clod's disintegration.
Never fear, he might return in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children.
In a bikini.

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Do you mean it, Big D? Do you REALLY mean it? Oh please don't get my hopes up. Please don't make me long for my departed beloved... *pours a bottle of malt liquor on the ground* my heart couldn't take the agony...

Finally, someone who feels the same way I do. Yes, the death of "you know who" has always been overrated in my eyes. The TRUE emotional point of the game is when Headgear...I mean Hieniken...I mean Hiedegger dies.

I am sad because I watched the FFIX ending again. It touches my heart, but I don't cry...
Heidegger was an idiot, thank Square he is dead. But Rufus should be left alive.

How can you be so cruel, DDK? Do I mock you when your one reason for living dies?

Rufus needn't have been sacrificed. =(

Hear hear.

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Originally Posted by Del Murder

Hear hear.

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Actually, it's "Here, here."

Seriously.

I think "Le roi est mort, vive le roi" would be more appropriate for a tribute to Rufus.

Finally, a quality FF7 thread.

Heidegger was a quality character, who was much more developed than many of you realize. I liked President Shinra too, then Rufus came in and I forgot about that old bearded fellow with old, nasty and wrinkly balls.

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Originally Posted by CloudDragon

Finally, a quality FF7 thread.
...that old bearded fellow with old, nasty and wrinkly balls.

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*Nightmares*

*longing romantic dreams* :cry: DAMN YOU SQUARE! I DEMAND.... nay... PETITION THAT YOU RELEASE A PATCH THAT LETS US PLAY THROUGH THE GAME WITH HEIDEGGER ALIVE!!! AS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ORIGINALLY INTENDED!!!!

i must be Palmer's lone defender =(

while having your imitation WEAPON (proud clod) blow up into smithereens while fighting for your country is a noble way to die, poor little palmer gets side smacked/raped by a truck. :cry:

Are we 100% sure Rufus died? I don't think so...

Anywho, I hated that fat bastard and when and if he died I said YAY!

And I agree 100% that the death of "you know who" is overrated, even though it is great.

Omg all I can remember about Palmer getting hit by the truck is laughing so hard I couldn't breathe. He didn't die though, if thats what you were thinking, so no more tears mmmkay. :)

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Originally Posted by soulICE

while having your imitation WEAPON (proud clod) blow up into smithereens while fighting for your country is a noble way to die

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Maybe it is noble, maybe it isn't but that doesn't mean I can't miss him :cry:

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He didn't die though, if thats what you were thinking

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OH YEAH! i forgot that he was the one who put the rocket on auto-pilot (SPOILER)before the gang goes to space

oi.. only a real man can survive being bitch smacked by a truck. :love:

dude...DJZen i'm still wondering which gender you are......

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Originally posted by CloudDragon
and I forgot about that old bearded fellow with old, nasty and wrinkly balls.

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Lol. how questionable. I could imagine Sephiroth going up to SHinra while Cloud was sleeping, stabbed Shinra in the back, and say, "Eum meus fatum occidere tu es, asinus!"

Now i can't see how any of you people liked Rufus, Heidegger, or even Palmer. As already said, when Palmer got mowed by the truck i was busting up laughing, until I heard the news he was still alive! grrr. ANyways, heidegger was an annoying dork and I can't see what your point is. Rufus i guess i could bear with it, he was an ok bad guy.

Heidegger was, is and always will be my one true love. He will be greatly missed. :cry:


And because no one seems to understand that this thread is a joke, I'll say it plainly. This thread is a joke.

and yet probably not one person got it

I don't believe that this was a joke. I think you're just saying it is now.

Heidegger is far too serious a subject to joke about. Joking about love for Heidegger would be even worse than saying that "love for Barret is gay".

Yous kids need to show more respect for your great elders.

I agree with devilmaykickass, I think u were just saying it cause everyone or most ppl thought like, ok, w/e. personally i was like, can i b scared now?

DJZen, you've said too many things to make me change my mind now...i'm scared as crap now.

I know what you mean man. :cry:

But life goes on and this might sound like nonsense, but time heals the wounds. That's the reason I stopped playing FF7: I couldn't stand watching Heidegger to die again and again...

That being said, now I can look back at those happy Heidegger moments with a smile on my face knowing he had a great life and him being on a better place now. :)

wtf?

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Originally Posted by Shiva's Effect

wtf?

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:: agrees 100% ::

Okay...this guy had little point i nthe whole game...o.O sick twisted comic relife?But we had barret and cid for that with *&@!*@ every line...and clouds spells:P

but, the death of...[spoilers]aeris[/spoilers] is very over rated.

now the death of [spoilers]zack, and his sacrifce for cloud[/spoilers] isnt spoken of enough.

agreed zacks_clone

Another great tragedy was the untimely death of the great Professor Gast. Why, why must we be robbed of such genius?!

Take care all.

I'm still confused as to why this thread hasn't been closed yet.

Because this thread is about a big important issue...kinda like abortion, but a tad more important.

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........................................yeah

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Originally Posted by Shiva's Effect

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........................................yeah

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...:: again agrees ::... if you want it down so bad,ask it to be closed.

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Originally Posted by Mikztsu

But life goes on and this might sound like nonsense, but time heals the wounds.

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i have a nagging feeling that you've listened to Evanescence-My Immortal. ;)

NOOOO dont close the thread!

y not? there's really no point in keeping it open only for ppl to rag on this kinda weird ass topic and the funky things ppl say like the fat dude dying. he was bad, had a gay laugh, and wanted to help destroy the planet. you wanted to stay alive.......why?

ne way, no point in keeping the thread open

Your still both watching the thread AND posting in it, so apparently there is a point.

There is no rule against threads like these. If Aeris and Rinoa can get a thousand worship threads, Heidegger deserves one too. So please stop moaning about it not being closed, unless you all really want it to be.

Heidegger needs the love.

Take care all.

so true...no one loves the big fat, stupid guy who apologizes for everything and gives one word answers :D

yeah pretty much

No offense, but I found Heidegger's laugh annoying.

He was okay, sometimes, but Rufus was way cooler. Still, it was a bit sad.

Rufus kicked ass

Hm. When he (SPOILER)got hit by the truck, I laughed and laughed.

:D

um, that was palmer. lol.

Rufus was the one that got carried away by the helicopter.

You people are all mean to me and my beloved and no one understands my pain. I'm going to write a poem about it. I'm also going to start wearing all black clothing and black lipstick.

*coughgothiccough* ne way, Rufus also got hit by weapon atop the Shinra tower thingy

There was a truck in the Shinra tower? :confused:

were'd the truck come from?

Heidagger = defeated by Cloud

Palmer = hit by a truck

Rufus = was destroyed by Diamond Weapon's Diamond Flash attack

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Originally Posted by ForeverZeroUltima

Heidagger = defeated by Cloud

Palmer = hit by a truck

Rufus = was destroyed by Diamond Weapon's Diamond Flash attack

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Eh, they got what they deserved.

If memory serves all the executives at Shinra (SPOILER) (except for Reeve) die a violent death. Shinra, Rufus, Heidegger, Scarlet, and Palmer, not to mention other employees like Tseng and Hojo. Can you imagine the insurance rates for Shinra employees? ;)

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Originally Posted by Ragnar[PT]

Eh, they got what they deserved.

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How can you say that? How can you be so cold?

You are truely callous people... :eep:

all of 'em cept Rufus bcause, well, lets just face it, Rufus was badass

Hm. I got that one totally wrong. It just goes to show what can happen to you if you haven't played Final Fantasy VII for a couple of months.

[QQ=ForeverZeroUltima]Heidagger = defeated by Cloud

Palmer = hit by a truck

Rufus = was destroyed by Diamond Weapon's Diamond Flash attack[/QQ]

Thanks, I'll remember that. Except... (SPOILER)Wasn't Rufus in the Final Fantasy: Advent Children trailer, or am I imagining things again?

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Originally Posted by DJzen

How can you say that? How can you be so cold?

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humans tend to be that way. *growls*

I have lost the love of my life and for some reason you people have made a huge joke out of this. Have you never known loss? Have you never been in pain and wanted only solace when greeted only with mockery? I only hope that you can see the error of your ways.

Heidegger was... truly a beautiful, beautiful thing. His loss has left a gaping hole, never to be filled. ;_;

I've gotta admit, it was hilarious when (SPOILER)Palmer was hit by that truck, though. :D

I think this should be a topic in the presidential debates, don't you? Placed right before abortion like it rightfully should be.

Monuments should be constructed in his honor.

Poor Scarlet must feel so left out of this thread. After all, what is Gyahaha without Kyahaha?

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Originally Posted by Behold the Void

After all, what is Gyahaha without Kyahaha?

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nyuk, nyuk, nyuk...-Yuffie

"Gya, ha, ha!" ~Heidagger
"Kya, ha, ha!" ~Scarlet
"Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk!" ~Yuffie
"Stop that stupid horse laugh." ~Rufus

:lol:

mmmm......yeah

exactly XD

It's simple, really. Scarlet was anoying at best, boring at worst, and had very little relevance to any other character. Heidegger was a deep, insightful person who you could really picture spending the rest of your life with.....

If only.....

Cloud hadn't......

*sniff* :(

*is unsure whether to feel sympathy for DJZen, or to just run the bloody hell away from him/her*

Why is it even a question?

Alas, for Heidegger and Scarlet... the dynamic duo :choc: of Final Fantasy VII...
:choc:
We mourn now... but we :choc: will always remember the good times... :choc: :choc:

such as.......?

Not to fear, Heidegger lives on!

In the spirit of Martin Heidegger's philosophical writings, that is. You see, he's really right there by your side. Always. Just as it should be.

Unless you don't read Heidegger. WHICH MEANS YOU DON'T LOVE HIM! YOU LYING BASTARD!!!

His sig has convinced me to believe otherwise...as disturbing as it is. O_O

O_O

O_o

o.O??

Well, there wasn't any Heidegger yaoi lying around, so I made do with what I could.....

I'm frightened.

I'm going with the general consensus. Rufus kicked ass.

I think whoever said Rufus was in FFVII Advent Children was just seeing things. I don't think he could have survived that giant blast of energy right through the window at him. He was so fried.

Besides which- what point would it serve to ressurect him? Why bring back a normal person when you can bring back Cloud's nemesis?

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Well, there wasn't any Heidegger yaoi lying around, so I made do with what I could.....

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Omg...thats a scary thought.

*pictures Heidegger and Palmer*

Ugh! Now you've given me a mental image dammit!

And you had to share it with everyone else.... :eek:

But of course

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Originally Posted by devilmaykickass

Omg...thats a scary thought.

*pictures Heidegger and Palmer*

Ugh! Now you've given me a mental image dammit!

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Yeah, that's a terrible thought. I mean, really, the only person who should be with Heidegger is me. That's horrible of you for suggesting otherwise. I'll thank you not to do that again.

My sincerest apologies...

*pictures Heidegger and DJzen*

EW- wait I don't even know what you look like. :mog:

Isn't it obvious? A neon jellyfish (I think). ;)

wat color?

a blue neon jellyfish?.....

I would like to thank everyone for all their support on getting me through this difficult time, but I have finally found closure on the matter. You see, I just recently was able to get to the special battle in the Gold Saucer, at the end of which, is a match against the Proud Clod. Naturally, it needs a pilot, and who in the world knows how to pilot the Proud Clod? Well, I think I'll be resting easier now that I know that Heidegger has left his horrible life of evil behind him and ebraced his true noble path as an entertainer at the Gold Saucer's battle square!

So he didn't bite the dust after all? Good to hear...for you even moreso I assume...and even better now he can still make that yaoi sometime. :D

Way to go, turbo.

he's in battle square?

uh, yes. Once you get W-Summon and Omnislash, (and Cloud has to LEARN Omnislash), the woman at the desk will ask you if you wanna enter a special battle. The first 7 enemies are random stuff, and the final enemy is the Proud Clod. So now you can see why DJZen "knows" that Heidagger is in there.

I didn't no that...interesting and cool...but the proud clod sux cause it takes to long for me atleast so....eh

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Originally Posted by Big D

We never actually SEE Heidegger die, so it's possible that he survived the Proud Clod's disintegration.
Never fear, he might return in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children.
In a bikini.

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Thanks for the nightmares, BUTTWIPE

Don't even pretend to be disgusted, Bleys. I saw that picture on your wall.

Yeah and I saw Raistlin seeing it on your wall while I was sp- errrm crap nevermind. :riiight:

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I know it's sad I have heard of some ressurection tricks one using GameShark never used them though.(SPOILER)I heard Aeris/th comes back in FFVII: Advent Childern because she gets new dialouge!!

Umm incase you haven't been reading the rest of the thread, its not about (SPOILER)the death of Aeris...its about Heidegger.

Though I'm sure theres a Heidegger ressurection code out there somewhere.

*Unmarked Spoilers*

How could Heidegger have survived? When the Proud Clod blew up, Scarlet and Heidegger were killed. Then, the Gold Saucer workers discovered the Proud Clod, and after scraping off all the remains of Heidegger, decided to put it in the Battle Arena.

As for the one that was operating the Proud Clod, it was probably Aeris.

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Originally Posted by devilmaykickass

Umm incase you haven't been reading the rest of the thread, its not about (SPOILER)the death of Aeris...its about Heidegger.

Though I'm sure theres a Heidegger ressurection code out there somewhere.

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Awwww crap it is!!!!! Sorry everyone!

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Originally Posted by Lionheart Griever

As for the one that was operating the Proud Clod, it was probably Aeris.

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I never thought about it but....omg its the perfect conspiracy! BRILLIANT! :eek:

*Another conspiracy coems to mind* What if Heidegger and Palmer are just stuffed toys controlled by Reeve? They look just about the right size.

And sorry DJzen, but if you're looking for Heidegger, you can find his beard in the dump, with flies hovering around it.

I always used Aeris and Tifa in my party. It was a good idea because they're hot :D . But I was sad when Sephiroth killed her. :cry:

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I never thought about it but....omg its the perfect conspiracy! BRILLIANT! :eek:

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Mmm... I know a good conspiracy when I see one. And damn, that's good. *is too lazy to search for the thumbs up smiley code, but wants to give you a thumbs up anyways, so here's to you, LG* :)

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Originally Posted by Lionheart Griever

*Another conspiracy coems to mind* What if Heidegger and Palmer are just stuffed toys controlled by Reeve? They look just about the right size.

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Not that one though. Sorry, man. :D

I know the other one sucked. I just felt like putting it because... well , I just felt like it.

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I know the other one sucked. I just felt like putting it because... well , I just felt like it.

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:exdee: :up:

it struck me at first cuz Heidagger and Palmer REALLY ARE the same size as Cait Sith! LOL

hmmm....................................................

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Originally Posted by devilmaykickass

Though I'm sure theres a Heidegger ressurection code out there somewhere.

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Trust me, I've looked, there isn't. And anyway, he survived, so it's not like you'd need one. It'd be like having a Cloud ressurection code or a Red XIII ressurection code. What's the point?

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Originally Posted by DJzen

Trust me, I've looked, there isn't. And anyway, he survived, so it's not like you'd need one. It'd be like having a Cloud ressurection code or a Red XIII ressurection code. What's the point?

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Because you use that code to ressurect them all but only after you use the secret reversed fate code, which reverses the effect and kills everyone else and brings back Aeris, then theres a ressurection code for each individual character that you MUST use to bring them all back and then continue the game as usual with Aeris. :D

MAN, you guys come up with all these crazy ideas...

No, we just do more drugs than you.

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Originally Posted by princeofdarknez

No, we just do more drugs than you.

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QUIET, YOU! :frylock:

shh don't let him onto us..... ;)

*glares at Shiva's Effect* i already knew...there is nothing you can hide from me...*gets on as DM and repeatedly kills him*

NOOOOOOOOOOO *dies*