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I have mad movies of KH2. this is how i think it goes. riku is bak but hes older he has some kind of amnesia. he keeps the blindfold over himself when areoun the darkness. the new heartless are white. mivkey may join your party cause theres a scene when you fight together. Thats really all i got. but theres so many diffrent ways the story could go anyone else got any input???
or is kingdom hearts sequels going to be just like final fantasy and it will be an entirely new storyline with none of the characters that were in the first one.
That's not it at all. Screenshots show that the main characters will be that same and it looks like it is clearly a sequal to Kingdom Hearts.
Big, nasty, unmarked spoilers lie ahead
Indeed. Sora, Riku, Kairi, Mickey and Ansem are all in KH2 for sure. That's right. Ansem's baaaack!
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Originally Posted by Ansem
pht for him. I wana know more bout that red haired unknown...and i wana see some more FF characters...
I dont think Riku has amnesia(however you spell it).I think Ansem has found a way to controll his body without being inside it. Which means Riku would be an enemy in a sense.Like his heart and soul cannot see the light and truth and reality. Maybe the blindfolds their to make sure he can never see the light,and the blindfolds only taken off when necessary,or when Ansem knows the one thing that will bring Riku back to normal is not near(kiari?Sora?)
The redheaded Unknown is supposedly named Axle and is the 2nd in command. The first is the red-ninja dude. (SPOILER)Ansem
Did that information come out at E3?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ansem
where in the world do you find this info Ansem?
Various rumors. Nothing is definite. But if you look at the red-ninja dudes eyes, you'll see that they're yellow. Also, Axle is the only one they've showed doing anything. He must be more significant, knowing Square.
Oh i hope so.I have a feeling this red heads going to become one of my favorite characters.Hope he doesnt end up dead in the end.
-.-;;
any info on the facless boy?(havent seen his face and it drives me nuts).He reminds me of one of the upcomming characters from FF12.Not Vaan,but the other one(was it Vaan?:P)
wut makes you guys think ansems bak???
Because if you watch the KH2 trailer, there's a subtitle in Japanese that reads "it is not wise to let them know of our plans, Ansem".
Do you really think Square Enix would reveal it to everyone that Ansem is coming back? I think it's a lot more complex than that. Maybe some attempt to bring back his ghost? An Unknown version of Ansem? A Heartless commander pretending to be Ansem? Who knows. But I think Square put that Ansem-line in the trailer just to confuse us.
Okay, lemme rephrase. All signs point to Ansem being back. :D
At one point i had a screanshot that was translated and said something like "Do you think this wise, ansem?". It was the one with hte man in bandages. I believe ansem is back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth1999AD
Yeah, he's probably back. The translation of that quote seems pretty solid. It's definately not just someone refering to him, they're directly adressing him. According to the Ansem Report (which has proven to be accurate in the past, even though it is going through a difficult time) Ansem's suggestion would be accurate. They've got some other interesting stuff there that came out of E3 too.
look at this it has got some of the kh2 characters
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Originally Posted by sora
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it works on my pc try putting in http://www.kingdomhearts2.net
*does a happy dance*Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaphier
Hmmm... so the girl is Kairi...
I don't mean to sound like I'm totally crumpling up your hypotheses.
What makes you think that he has amnesia, according to the trailers, and the Deep Dive ending?Quote:
Originally Posted by AShadowsBlaze
I doubt it. Just because one heartless was white, doesn't mean that they're all going to be white. There were lots of different colored heartless in the first game. Plus, there are black heartless in Deep Dive, which probably takes place between KH: CoM and KH 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by AShadowsBlaze
Maybe Riku is helping Micky seeing as (SPOILER)Mickey has joined the heartless. Tho I'm probably wrong. Feel free to shoot down my theory with anything that might prove it wrong. :D
Mickey joined the heartless? When? He's wearing the same coat as the unknowns, but right now we have no idea WHOSE side they're on. They definitely seem to be fighting the heartless though (watch Another Side Another Story to see a hint at that, or Deep Dive to actually SEE it).
No one knows why he did, but he hasn't gone evil. (Like Disney would let him.) He isn't actually with them, he's just got a plan and is trying to put it into action. (Or something like that...)Quote:
Originally Posted by DJzen
It'd make sence that he's just gone under cover. Superficcialy joined the unknowns in their little gang so he can un-cover their little plot and bring it down from the inside of discover weaknesess etc.
Thing is, we don't even know if all the Unknowns are even on the same side. I think we can safely assume that the blonde kid with two keyblades (Oblivion and Oathkeeper chains) and the blonde-haired Unknown with the two keyblades (same ones as before) from Another Side, Another Story/Deep Dive are the same person.
In one trailer it shows the kid (not in Unknown cloak) fighting Axel. One of them says something to the effect of, "I won't let you get to Sora!" Either way, one of them is looking for Sora. The most likely options are that either Axel is looking for Sora and the blonde kid is protecting Sora, or that the blonde kid is looking for Sora and Axel doesn't want him to find Sora.
remember, Sora has disappeared off the face of the Earth with Donald and Goofy. i think that Riku is still good. remember, in "another Side, Another Story" riku protects the unknown (i think) and the unknown is asking the heartless where the heck he is. remember, the heartless can track Keyblades.
On a different note, i wanna see Sephy again. he says nothing when you beat him or fight him. i want to know what he has been up to. he should be allowed to come back and kill Heartless. :radred:
Can't give an educated opinion about Ansem, exept that i think that he should come back, as all the previous major villains were killed.
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I think you guys are wrong about Riku. I don't think he's bad and i'll explain my theory. We don't know for sure that the unknowns are good but we do know for sure that (at least a few of them, including riku) are not friendly with the heartless which you would think makes them good in some aspect. Also, those of you who have seen the KH1 ending will know that riku was last seen with mickey and in the deep dive trailer mickey lands on the same building (possibly while riku is still on?) that riku was standing on in ASAS. So it is possible that riku and mickey are both working together.
I don't think axle is second in command (although he does seem in a high rank.). If i had to guess i would say that the tall unknown is second command. I think this because he is the one who is seen talking to the red bandaged ( ansem?) unknown, he is the one leading the group of unknowns in twighlight town, he is the one seen (supposedly)controlling beast, he is the one that sora runs at in hallow bastion and he is the one who talks to sora at the crossroads. All sign's point to himQuote:
Originally Posted by Ansem
I heard there are going to be loadsa new worlds in it. I can't wait to see them! :D In addition to the old worlds, of course. And I did hear that Mickey would be a playable character and that his castle a visitable world.
chaos: Most of what Ansem has mentioned is true. The revealing more of the Unknown, one of them named "Vixen".
Rubedo: Hopefully, Riku will finally be a party member. He is definetly the coolest of the crew, next to Axle. And Mickey doesn't go evil, I'm pretty sure. That would just be plain wrong. More worlds will also be revealed, like the Beauty and the Beast one.
Trowa: I just hope that they add a few Final Fantasy Worlds...
Albedo: *Laughs maniacally*
Spoilers galore.
Firstly, it is clear that Sora, Donald and Goofy ended up in some strange world with a seemingly endless road. At the beginning of Deep Dive, Sora finds himself alone at cross in four different directions. The general consensus is that the roads lead to the four worlds mentioned in Deep Dive: the present world (where one would assume Sora came from), the world of darkness, the world of light and the world inbetween. This is also where Chain of Memories apparently begins, and he is approached by Axel at this point, or so the screen shots I've seen would suggest. How he was seperated from Donald and Goofy, I haven't a clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bahumat
However, at some point we know he returns to the present world and rejoins Donald and Goofy, as they are shown together in Hallow Bastion in the Kingdom Hearts two trailers. There, they encounter five Unknowns in the great crest area of Hallow Bastion. Sora cuts down a couple heartless and jumps up to one of the unknowns who is beginning to pull back his hood. Sometime before or after this, one Unknown raises his arms and four more appear behind him.
Later, it those white monsters (perhaps the real heartless, not the ones created by Ansem) show up and serve Sora, Donald and Goofy their rear's on a silver platter. At this time, Unknown Mickey shows up with his inverted Kingdom Key Keyblade and takes them all down.
Second, I don't think that he was asking the heartless where Sora was. Why would he ask a question to something that can't respond? I think he was calling up to Riku, if anyone. That or he could have been talking to himself. I think the former is more likely.
I don't think that Sephy would be a good guy, and I also doubt that he will return. The only returning enemies they've announced are Hades and Jafar, at least as far as I know. Clearly some of the Unknowns are the badguys. In the official trailer at the Japanese site for the game it is shown that one of the Unknowns is manipulating Beast because he has control of the wilting rose, making Beast a temporary enemy, it would seem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bahumat
One thing that really gets me about the trailer is when Sora does some fancy moves with his keyblade, as if he's about to lock a keyhole, and instead, blue lines form around him (much like in Another Side, Another Story where the Hallow Bastion/Heartless sigil appears around the dual-wielding Unknown) and it forms the crown, the keychain for Oblivion that also appears on Sora's necklace. It's just something new, these blue energy symbols on the ground, and it's making me wonder.
I still stand by my statement about the Unknowns. They're definately split and choose different sides. I'd like to think that they're just the bodies of those who lost their hearts to the heartless and were strong enough to remain without a heart, or they're the bodies of those who cast of their bodies to exist only as a heart, like Ansem. It would explain how he was back. I don't know about you all, but I definately think the light of Kingdom Hearts destroyed Ansem because his heart was so full of darkness.
We also cannot be sure about the number of Unknowns either. In Deep Dive, five different ones appear: the dual-wielding one, Riku, the one with glowing eyes, and the one sitting at the beach (perhaps the meeting place suggested in the 13 points?) and then Mickey. Then there's five in Hallow Bastion at the beginning of Kingdom Hearts II and the enigmatic man from Final Mix (who is probably one of the other Unknowns.) Because the five at Hallow Bastion were all normal sized, i.e. not Mickey. So, excluding the one in red (Ansem) there are at least six Unknowns.
The two mentioned introduced in Chain of Memories, the red-headed Axel and the Sephiroth look-a-like Vixen give identities to 5 of the six Unknowns. Then there's Riku and the blonde/dual-wielding guy and Mickey, that leaves one who we don't know: the guy with the glowing/heartless-estique eyes. Since none of these have been mentioned, he has to be someone completely different. There is the possibility that he is the dual-wielding/blonde haired kid as we have yet to see his face and it is possible that he has glowing eyes, but I find it unlikely.
So there's Riku, the blonde, Vixen, Axel and Mickey and the unnamed one. There is always the possibility that there are more and that the ones standing at Hallow Bastion are different from the two in Deep Dive: the sitting one and the one with glowing eyes, and I feel that's a very real possibility.
I never get tired of the theory that the blonde is Sora's body that was discarded after Sora unlocked his heart with the Oblivion. His body disappeared and his heart became a heartless, but when Kairi held him he returned through the strength of his heart. Their hair is very familiar, except for the difference in color, and that may be the reason they don't show his face.
Man, I never get tired of trying to figure this all out.
I got big news! the BHK name is Sion
The name of the topic starter says AShadowsBlaze but my old posts say carnage.....................interesting. o yeah your news is important to.
so the BHK name could be either Sion or Carnage?
No my old EoFF SN was AShadowsBlaze and it didnt update it.
oh, sorry
I've heard that Sion rumor before, but I'd bet a million bucks it's not true. Sion was the main character from Squaresoft's first PS2 title, The Bouncer. I don't think they'd use that name for two different characters. Though it's pretty agreeable that Sora's attire in Kingdom Hearts is pretty much the same as Sion's.
It is possible, but unlikely.
a EoFF member named Fat Hobbit said it was Sion on a 1 year old thread, thats where I got the rumor from.
The main unknowns are: Ansem (well, we dont know for sure that this is Ansem, but its almost definatly a returning character, and not a disney one, so the obvious one is Ansem), Axel, Rikku, and SEMI-SPOILER EVEN THOUGH ITS ON MANY SITES, BUT IT DOES KINDA SPOIL CoM
Mickey, though hes almost definatly spying on the unknowns. Also, playable mickey? Doubt it. Mickey is sorta the no-go zone for Disney Games.
Sion is a good guess but there were 2 names that kome up clear on a japanese website i have been too i have seen his face and his name is either Saisoku in japanese but as for english version they prolly give him an english name like Sion but wut i have heard it is something towards Saisoku but hey ur guess is as good as mine :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Songstress
I just had a theory hit me. there is the world to light, dark and in-between right? i would be willing to bet that the world inbetween is the one where the unknowns reside. Also at the end of deep dive it shows the two unknowns talking. Then it flashes to sora flying across the ocean looking like he did when he was falling into the darkness (when he unlocked his heart). The water that he is flying across is the exact same to that on the beach where the unkowns are talking. This strikes many possibilities and these are what i've thought of so far.
1. This scene (i think that they are very close together time wise) happened when sora unlocked his heart and his soul was going to become an unknown and the two on the beach are waiting for him (explaining why one of them was explaining that "he looks just like you"
2.The other theory is that at the crossroads sora was persuaded by the unkown who talked to him (i still think its the tall one and not axel) to choose the path to the world in-between.
tell me what you think
Peace out and :rock:
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from wat i here is more than 1 riku in kh 2, they r his clones and he does have ammenia.
I know the face of deul keyblade weider kid http://www.kh2.co.uk/?kh2=Main, there u will find info on him, mickey is under cover and i think riku and the unknowns are conected to each other cus in kh 1 riku became part of the darkness and was able to control the heartless, well i think the hertless took a part of rikus mind and made copies of himself and formed the unknown. and i haven't a clue of sora but there are new worlds like the pirates of the carabiean and mulan
Where did you get the Heartless copying riku idea?Quote:
Originally Posted by wonder of information
Anyway play CoM to get at least a good theory of KH2. I would just say it but I don't feel like typing.
ok i was wrong about the riku stuff but it may happen, but wat i do know is that for sora to have to keyblades he merges with goofy and turns red. I jus got one question in the final mix the secert video, y does one unknown say to the other he looks like u, but from that video u can tell riku does have memory problems and mickey is trrying to save riku. Wasn't the oblivion riku's before sora got it, so how did the unkown get the oblivion and the oath keepre if kari gave that to sora. And my last question is, in the begeinning of kh 1 leon says the heartless can only b destroyed by keyblades so why can donald and goofy and all the other characters beat them? :confused: hit me back on this aiight
I'd like to see Riku as a playable character...Well, it already happened in CoM, but now you would be able to alternate between him and Sora at a save point or something...Imagine both fighting together, along with that other kid holding a keyblade in the E3 trailer? Wow...
Storyline-wise, I'd like to see Sora kicking Ansem's butt once and for all. I'm sorry for you Ansem lovers, but if he could only appear as a spirit or something, it would be way better than having to fight him over and over...How about a new enemy, CONTROLLED by him, BUT not him?
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Originally Posted by Dark Dragon Knight