~ Here's the scan.
It shows a character that seems to be Aeris. I say seems to because it hasn't yet officially been confirmed to be her. It also shows various other people too :)~
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~ Here's the scan.
It shows a character that seems to be Aeris. I say seems to because it hasn't yet officially been confirmed to be her. It also shows various other people too :)~
Interesting, though I hope it's a flashback.
back to back with Cloud?Hm.I hope its a flashback too.Love though,and thanks for showing.
GAH! SHE'S DEAD! They brought her back for KH, now this?! Let her lie dead!
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Originally Posted by Ansem
Kingdom Hearts is a completly diffrent game,therefore the limitations of death in final fantasy VII do not apply there.The created her anew. Much like they did all the others. Dont complain about kingdom hearts.
She IS dead i believe. Flashbacks are wounderful things,and this is probably a flashback.
[q=zacks_clone]She IS dead i believe. Flashbacks are wounderful things,and this is probably a flashback.[/q]Yesh. Reviving her would be a huge spoiler that they'd never reveal in preliminary screenshots, hence why I, too, reckon this scene is from a flashback.
Still, I like the way her hair and costume have been rendered. The staff have done an amazing job giving lifelike appearances to FFVII's cast.
Omg! Did you notice Cloud standing behind her in the scan... he had his FFAC outfit on.... (i think) do you think they could be in the promised land!?!?! OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT!?!?
Cloud's "AC outfit" is just his regular old costume, the same one he wore all through FFVII, just with some slight modifications to make it look better. His overalls have a higher collar in the AC version, but it's still the same getup, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by FFFFsephychibi
However, the view in that screenshot is pretty limited, so you could be right, of course. After all, at the end of FFVII, Cloud did talk about going to the Promised Land to "meet her". Maybe they're standing back-to-back because Cloud would find it too painful to actually see her face again...
good point... i just cait wait to see that movie! Aeris is gonna look so cool and pretty!
I like how they focus on the important part of Aeris.
And hopefully it is some kind of flashback. She's cute, but I don't like her much.
If she's revived, I'm gonna cry.
Also, that looked like Reno in one of the pictures, but it was too dark to tell. Before Crisis looks interesting. Though the three faces it showed were of new Turks, it also had Elena and Reno standing back to back, or that's who they looked like.
Tseng isn't new, although the article mysteriously refers to him only by his little-known surname, Tzon, and the blonde guy is Rufus. I don't recognize the last guy, though, and his name doesn't ring any bells ("Kyara Weld"?).
Looks like Rufus, Tseng, and Hojo to me. The 'New Turks' that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaphier
[q]Tseng isn't new, although the article mysteriously refers to him only by his little-known surname, Tzon[/q]Before Crisis is set quite some time before the events of FFVII, right? Tseng's a fairly senior member of the Turks, with about a couple of decades in the business, so he's likely to be the leader of the group. Makes sense that his underlings would call him by his surname. After all, you don't hear President Shinra being called "Phil" or anything...
The third face looks very much like Reeve.
Unless his first name is actually President.
Anyway, I'm happy that they made use of Tzon, since up until now I had doubts that the surnames given for the Turks were even official, since I could only find mention of them on some obscure fansite. It's nice to have them validated.
In World War Two, US generals were concerned about working alongside British forces, because a British general is a higher equivalent rank than a US general. They were going to change the US designation to "field marshall", so that there'd be less confusion about who was the leader of each force. But this was opposed by a certain US general who didn't want to become "Field Marshall Marshall".
It's strange... during FFVII, Reeve appears to be a very senior member of Shinra's management, even though he's officially the "Director of Urban Development", yet he also wears a Turks uniform. I'm guessing that, by the time FFVII begins, he's no longer an operational member of the Turks, and has branched out into intelligence-related activities in other Shinra areas. Urban Development can be closely tied to monitoring and screening the population, so he might be handling that...
He seems to be a central figure in Before Crisis, maybe that game will explain how and when his sense of morality drove him away from the Turks work carried out by the likes of Reno, Rude, Elena and Tseng...
Except for Reno, who goes around out of uniform anyway, the Turks wear blue suits with black ties. Reeve wears a blue suit with an orange tie.
As you can see, there's a huge difference.On what do you base that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Big D
Reno's in uniform, just shabbily dressed. He's left his tie off and has his shirt untucked. Otherwise, though, he's got the same threads as his colleagues. Also, as far as I recall, every Turks member has a blue suit and red tie, just like Reeve. That's what I remember, anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi
[q][q]He seems to be a central figure in Before Crisis[/q]
On what do you base that?[/q]I'm just assuming that's his face in that article, beneath Rufus and Tseng. If it actually is him, then the company he's keeping would suggest a certain significance.
Like I said before, that guy below Rufus and Tseng is Kyara Weld or something. Besides, a look at him will tell you he's too old to be Reeve, especially predating FFVII.
Being in uniform means strictly following the uniform code down to the smallest detail. Even having your shoelaces untied means being "out of uniform."
I checked, and the colors I gave are correct. The Final Fantasy Compendium has plenty of pictures of Reeve and each of the Turks, including in-game shots as well as character art, so you can see for yourself. You can also use it to verify that Reeve is pretty young in FFVII, and a look at Vincent when he was a Turk will show you that the uniform didn't change between then and in the present. (Look under Characters, then under FF7 Characters.)
[q]Besides, a look at him will tell you he's too old to be Reeve, especially predating FFVII.[/q]But then, Tseng is at least 40-ish (since he was an adult and a Turks member back when Aeris was a kid), and he still looks fairly young. Reeve doesn't look especially young in the FFCompendium art, especially not with that groomed, full beard. If they're starting to use Tseng's surname, maybe Kyara-Weld is the rest of Reeve's name somehow?
What's more puzzling about that article is the fact that Elena appears to have a prominent role, when in FFVII she was a rookie who got thrown in the deep end when Reno was taken out of action. It'll be interesting to see how she's written into the story...
They didn't bring her back to life. The FFVII world got destroyed by the heartless before the point of Aeris's death. Did nobody else figure it this way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ansem
The way I see it, once the heartless ordeal is all done with, everything will turn back to normal, as if nothing ever happened.
As for the picture. The outfit looks a lot like Aeris's, so I'm gonna' assume it's her until proven otherwise. I mean, Sephiroth came back, why not Aeris?
it is a diffrent game. The ordeals in FFVII have NOTHING whatsoever to DO with Kingdom Hearts.At all.The fact that Cid,Yuffie,Aerith and Cloud are all from one game is just because the creators decided to toss them into a completly DIFFRENT game. Aeris and clouds ASSUMED romance is just that-ASSUMED in Kingdom Hearts.They know each other because the creators probably wanted to bring these framilyer faces back and if they DIDNT know each other then the FF fans would be VERY upset.it is not at all on the same lines as FFVII!...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolts
okay,im done.
I guess I didn't look closely enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi
I don't know that Reeve has anything to do with the Turks... the article said that the new character is Verd or Veld or something to that effect; something of a mentor to Tseng. And the two characters in the logo are NOT Reno or Elena; the girl just has an uncanny resemblance... and it wouldn't make sense, storyline wise, if it really WAS her.
What... they have surnames??! I had no idea... what are they?
And I'm just thinking the Aeris bit is a flashback or a figment of Cloud's imagination... like he just really wishes she was still there with him (but she's still very much dead). On the AC side, there is one picture of Reno, as well as a horribly dark picture of Rude, Reno and Cloud; and the orphan kid on the bottom goes by the name Denzel. And that's basically it.
Reno Tarshil
Tseng Tzon
Rude Urnar
Elena Marshall
interestingly enough, the members of the Turks were originally called "Field Marshall" but there was a complaint by a certain Field Marshall Marshall.
The circle is complete.
It hasnt been said that sephiroth is back. And i think Vincent might be a turk in Before crisis. that would be so kool! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolts
There was no FFVII 'world'. They were all from (SPOILER)Hollow Bastion, including Squall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolts
And, yes, Sephiroth is back. http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q2-2004/062004a.html There's some information, translated from the official site, on a lot of the main characters.
Tonight my friends and I made a sacred pact. If Aerith is ressurected or some similiarily stupid stunt, we're not going to buy AC. We'll download it, watch it, burn it, and generally mooch, but we wont buy it. *nods*
I never expected Square to correct the mistake Sony made of mistransliterating Bullet's name, but they could at least be consistent with the mistake. First Barret, now Barett. And then there's Tifa "Lockhart."
As for Loz, Yazoo, and Kadaj, there must have been a million other ways of transliterating those names that would not have sounded so stupid. Yazoooo!
Well so far, Kadaj is teh m4n!!! Mainly because of his sword :D
But you can pretty much bet your ass that chick in the scan is Aeris. Same outfit, hair, and the leather necklace are all the same.
Aeris it certainly is but I likewise believe (or want to believe) that it is a flash back. Oh and Clouds clothing as far as I have ever known was always a soldier uniform which is the navy blue on navy blue trousers and rollneck without sleeves that he wears for AC
Actually the SOLDIER uniform was purple, but if you're referring to the standard issue uniform to recruits who didn't make the cut for SOLDIER, then that is navy blue.
But if Aeris makes a guest appearance (not in the form of a flashback) I'll be pretty damn disappointed. Even though I loved her in the game, to use mind you, I'd still be a bit mad if they managed to bring her back. It'd be interesting, but I wouldn't like it that much.
As for Sephiroth, you pretty much knew first hand before any info was released, that they were gonna bring him back for the following reasons:It just makes sense that he'd be in there in some form. Aeris however will definately be in as a flash back. At least thats my view on things.
- Sephiroth rules :p
- He was afterall a huge part in the plot
- And how would it tie in otherwise?
[q=Masamune1287]But if Aeris makes a guest appearance (not in the form of a flashback) I'll be pretty damn disappointed. Even though I loved her in the game, to use mind you, I'd still be a bit mad if they managed to bring her back. It'd be interesting, but I wouldn't like it that much.[/q]I agree. Especially when you consider the reasons behind her death - I mean the real-life circumstances. Hironobu Sakaguchi's beloved mother has recently died, and Aeris' death was intended as a "reflection" of that. Reviving Aeris in a sequel would kind of cheapen the meaning behind her death in FFVII, both in real life and in terms of the game's plot.