Would someone kill me now please...sheesh.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...rf_dj_arrested

Personally, this scares me how idiotic our country has gotten...now people can't even joke around anymore because people in this country(especially in the southern reigon, like Texas, which isn't suprising) are so uptight and 'scared' and quite frankly, being stupid...now while the guy was being stupid (in a different way) was he making a terror threat by wearing a ski mask? Does that mean I'm not allowed to walk into a store wearing a ski mask if I so desire? So now I can't wear what I want? Where'd the 1st amendment go?

This is so stupid and sickening to me...what do you think? Do you think they were right for arresting this guy and he really did something horrible? I sure don't...a little stupid maybe, but nothing to get arrested for.

Borderline case in my opinion. When someone walks into a store in the middle of summer wearing a ski mask, it's not unreasonable to assume they're up to something. Might've been better had they arrested him and let him go with a small fine though. I don't know about the year in jail.

I agree with DMKA, and can only say one thing: WTF?

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That's... Asinine.

God, I feel like I should sing the national song just because I don't live over there... In fact, I'll do it now!

Oi maamme Suomi, synnyinmaa, tuo sana kultainen! Ei hetkeäkään... Poista loistoa.... Something something something something.

I've forgotten the words.

I say the guy deserves a year in jail but shouldn't get it. He didn't do anything wrong...but he is an idiot, I love jokes and commedy but it wasn't funny, not not funny in the bad morals way but just the not funny way..honestly how was that supposed to make anyone bust a gut? he walks into a store with a ski mask! OMG! HA HA! come on I need a good joke I don't see the humor. I can see what the judge was thinking:

"Wow....this guy has no respect for law and order what so ever, he thinks he can walk into a store with a ski mask to purposely make the clerk think that he/she was being robbed, waste the time of the police who could be doing more important things, and get away from it because he was trying to be funny? A year in jail will make him think about his jokes more carefully."

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I say the guy deserves a year in jail but shouldn't get it. He didn't do anything wrong...but he is an idiot, I love jokes and commedy but it wasn't funny, not not funny in the bad morals way but just the not funny way..honestly how was that supposed to make anyone bust a gut? he walks into a store with a ski mask! OMG! HA HA! come on I need a good joke I don't see the humor. I can see what the judge was thinking:

"Wow....this guy has no respect for law and order what so ever, he thinks he can walk into a store with a ski mask to purposely make the clerk think that he/she was being robbed, waste the time of the police who could be doing more important things, and get away from it because he was trying to be funny? A year in jail will make him think about his jokes more carefully."

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I agree. People cant wear anything they want, like this reminds me of that one case, where this muslim lady wanted to wair her burka for her drivers license! Like lady, its a identifaction badge, take the burka off.:p But yeah this one was a ''joke''.

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I agree. People cant wear anything they want, like this reminds me of that one case, where this muslim lady wanted to wair her burka for her drivers license! Like lady, its a identifaction badge, take the burka off. But yeah this one was a ''joke''.

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Because respecting other people's faith is not at all what America is about and all those heathens should be driven out of the country.

Well, while it was a pretty stupid idea, the fact that he is getting such a harsh punishment is incredibly disgusting. But, about what I've come to expect from a country that sends the CIA after a young boy who's drawing anti-Bush pictures.

Oh my God! Terrorist threat, no doubt!

Seriosuly, I think the whole idea to be stupid, but the fact he was arrested for that and may go to jail is just pathetic. Very, very pathetic. In fact, it looks like a Monty Python comedy.

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But, about what I've come to expect from a country that sends the CIA after a young boy who's drawing anti-Bush pictures.

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Uh...you are not serious about that, are you? Did I miss something?

It was definitly a stupid thing to do, but it doesnt deserve this huge blow up. It's common sense not to do that when half the country is having constant anxiety attacks over this mostly-imagined and much sensationalized foe.

And this is a free country, and we are free to wear whatever we please. As I've proven many many times on my adventures.

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Imagined? You mean, Ossama bin Laden is like this creepy guy they tell kids about, to make them finish their meals?

How many terrorist attacks have we had since then? How many terrorist attacks have been on US soil? How much proof do we have that there have been any plots, any thoughts of another attack? The threat is there, but the magnitude is mostly imagined. People are scared to death over mostly nothing, most especially because if it's going to happen, it's going to happen.

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How many terrorist attacks have we had since then? How many terrorist attacks have been on US soil? How much proof do we have that there have been any plots, any thoughts of another attack? The threat is there, but the magnitude is mostly imagined. People are scared to death over mostly nothing, most especially because if it's going to happen, it's going to happen.

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Right. However, I must remind you of something: If you see a guy with a ski mask, he's a terrorist. NO DOUBT. And if he enters a shop, it means thousands of people are going to die. Logic!

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Right. However, I must remind you of something: If you see a guy with a ski mask, he's a terrorist. NO DOUBT. And if he enters a shop, it means thousands of people are going to die. Logic!

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The terrorist bit was verry stupid, but you have to agree that if you saw a guy walk into a 7-11 with a ski mask on, you would thinnk he was going to rob the place. This then made the clerk panic and call the cops, this then wasted their precious time. Say an armed robber broke into your house and you called the police....TOO BAD! the last unit was dispatched to a 7-11 to stop an idiot in a ski mask...guess your going to have to wait a while longer, hope he doesn't bumb into you and shoot you.

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None. But do you know how many attempts? And maybe those who defend you are simply doing a great job - ever thought of that? It's pretty ignorant and naive to think that just because your sworn enemy (and believe me, they've sworn) has not struck you, that you're clear out of danger.

Oh, and while the USA has been left un-touched for more than two years (wow, so long! :rolleyes: ), the rest of the world has suffered from inecessant terroristic attacks. So, it's still out there, whether it has gotten to you again or not, and whether you choose to do something about it, or not.

I do believe Americans have gone slightly out of line with this thing of 'war on terrorism'... but, it's bound to die off eventually, and you'll go into what you could call a 'rational elimination mode'. That is, knowing who your enemy is, doing what you have to do to destroy it, and not getting carried away. Things have cooled down since 911, and you'll get used to that routine of having to battle terrorism, and various other threats.

As for the case itself - he's clearly a moron. He should be fined, heavilly if need be, and that's it. But, seeing as he didn't commit a crime... no jail time, I think.

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The terrorist bit was verry stupid, but you have to agree that if you saw a guy walk into a 7-11 with a ski mask on, you would thinnk he was going to rob the place. This then made the clerk panic and call the cops, this then wasted their precious time. Say an armed robber broke into your house and you called the police....TOO BAD! the last unit was dispatched to a 7-11 to stop an idiot in a ski mask...guess your going to have to wait a while longer, hope he doesn't bumb into you and shoot you.

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Uh..yes, I'd probably call the police, but if he was not going to do anything bad, then he should just be released. Is it against the law to enter a shop with a ski mask? Did he do anything bad, asides from a slight annoyance and being an idiot? No. He entered there, the owner got scared, called the cops, the cops arrested him, it was all a misunderstanding...the end. Or is there a law against misunderstanding? If I give children I don't know a bag of sweets just because I feel like it, do I get arrested for doing something that may look like it has bad intentions behing it? (You know, give them candy for further kidnapping or sexual abuse or something). Same here, only entering a shop with that mask is worse than giving children candy, but nothing to deserve more than a few glares and a "if we get you again being an idiot you'll be fined". Not prision, for God's sake.

O.K on the topic of countries freedom. We don't get it much better over here. But we get it in a completely different way. Political Correctness. I mean WTF. I can't say what I like because some politician doesn't have the same veiws as me. I can't say that all illegal immigrants should be shipped out of my country because they're all theiving, murderous, little money grabbers, stealing my hard earned cash, because some politician says I can't. everyone in this country is so f'ing scared of their own shadows that they wont stand up and say what they believe. Now before you all call me a nazi, I have no problems with immigrants, that's not what this is about. I like them as long as they come to this country to earna living not just sponge off of me. I digress. We are no longer free in this country. The Great british empire has been brought crashing down by the demon that is political correctness. So what if you can't walk about in a ski mask. I can't even walk into my local store and SAY I'm going to rob them in a non threatening manor because I'll be arrested.

Land of the free indeed. If you think your free, try walking into the deli and urinating on the cheese.

so you think your being opressed try living in Britain for a week.

That bozo deserves punishment.
He made a deliberate attempt to instil fear into an innocent store-owner by doing something provocative and intimidating. He knew of the effect his action would have - that'd undoubtedly be the reason he did it in the first place - and went and did it anyway, without caring that an innocent party might suffer the fear of being robbed or murdered by a masked stranger.
Normal people don't wear ski masks into convenience stores; it's something done solely for conealment. At least, that's how it's widely interpreted. Every bank has a sign in its window stating that no helmets or masks may be worn on the premises, for that exact same reason.

I wouldn't say that this DJ made a "terror threat", but if his action goes unpunished, then the authorities are basically saying it's ok for anyone else to follow suit. Thousands of moronic teenagers will do the same, and the consequences for store owners would be severe.

things like this make me want to go and live with my relatives in england or sweden. sometimes i'm really embarresed to be an american.


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Thousands of moronic teenagers will do the same, and the consequences for store owners would be severe.

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I can't say that all illegal immigrants should be shipped out of my country because they're all theiving, murderous, little money grabbers, stealing my hard earned cash, because some politician says I can't.

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Actually, immigrants arnt taking your jobs, there taking the jobs Americans dont want.

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That bozo deserves punishment.
He made a deliberate attempt to instil fear into an innocent store-owner by doing something provocative and intimidating. He knew of the effect his action would have - that'd undoubtedly be the reason he did it in the first place - and went and did it anyway, without caring that an innocent party might suffer the fear of being robbed or murdered by a masked stranger.
Normal people don't wear ski masks into convenience stores; it's something done solely for conealment. At least, that's how it's widely interpreted. Every bank has a sign in its window stating that no helmets or masks may be worn on the premises, for that exact same reason.

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Yeah I agree. The punishment should show that other stupid people dont do that.

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But, about what I've come to expect from a country that sends the CIA after a young boy who's drawing anti-Bush pictures.

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Uh...you are not serious about that, are you? Did I miss something?

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I kid you not. A young boy, I believe in his preteens, drew pictures, I believe depicting Bush being attacked or killed or something, and the CIA went after him.

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I kid you not. A young boy, I believe in his preteens, drew pictures, I believe depicting Bush being attacked or killed or something, and the CIA went after him.

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Why would that poor sick little guy draw pictures of an American leader being mauled to death? There must have been a caption or something that the kid added that sounded threatening or something or the CIA wouldn't have wasted their time. Or did the kid do something stupid like send it to PRESIDENT Bush?

(Come on people he isn't a next door neighbor, show some respect with President in front)

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Imagined? You mean, Ossama bin Laden is like this creepy guy they tell kids about, to make them finish their meals?

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two words: duct tape


i dont even see how the whole duct tape thing can be an argument at all. he commited no crime, therefore he CANNOT go to jail and he CANNOT be fined. period. unless of course, wearing a ski mask into a store is actaully a crime. it may be, but i dont think it is. i dont see a problem with him being arrested, but if he gets convicted of anything im gonna have a big problem with that. what he did was wrong, but that changes nothing. morales have nothing to do with this, its a legal issue. this man should not receive any punishment whatsoever.


"I kid you not. A young boy, I believe in his preteens, drew pictures, I believe depicting Bush being attacked or killed or something, and the CIA went after him."

no he drew george bush and made him look like satan and had him holding or launching a missile. then there was a caption that said "STOP THE WAR ON TERROR" the kids art teacher saw it, sent it to the principal who then sent it to the police,who then called on the CIA and they paid the kid a visit. the kid obviously was no threat, they did this jsut to scare him into staying in line and not using his voice to raise dissent against the president.

lol that sounds alot like the Gestapo style CIA of the worlds most powerful dictatorship

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I kid you not. A young boy, I believe in his preteens, drew pictures, I believe depicting Bush being attacked or killed or something, and the CIA went after him.

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The U.S. is in great fear of course. For some school things as well, for example, someone wearing a "Anti-War" T-shirt, they got expelled etc.

I do agree about the fact that who wouldn't suspect it would be weird of someone did something like that, but the punishment was way too large. In fact, if it were to be a joke, they shouldn't have even given him a punishment IMO.

I think some of you misunderstand the notion of "land of the free". Freedom isn't "do whetever you please", that's anarchy, or, as Hobbes called it "State of Nature". It doesn't work. Liberty doesn't give you license to act however you want. People choose to leave the State of Nature to form a Government, where they voluntary give up some of their freedoms (such as "kill anyone you'd like"). Each State in the US has laws that restrict your liberties. So does Federal law (by giving some powers to the Government and its agencies, etc...).


About the topic at hand, if any of you had the curiosity (that's getting to be a rare characteristic nowadays) to read the Texas law (the penal code here) about it, you'd see that the DJ was in the wrong:
"Sec. 22.07. TERRORISTIC THREAT. (a) A person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to any person or property with intent to:
~ ~ (1) cause a reaction of any type to his threat by an official or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies;
~ ~ (2) place any person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury; or
~ ~ (3) prevent or interrupt the occupation or use of a building; room; place of assembly; place to which the public has access; place of employment or occupation; aircraft, automobile, or other form of conveyance; or other public place; or
~ ~ (4) cause impairment or interruption of public communications, public transportation, public water, gas, or power supply or other public service.
~ (b) An offense under Subdivision (1) or (2) of Subsection (a) is a Class B misdemeanor. An offense under Subdivision (3) of Subsection (a) is a Class A misdemeanor. An offense under Subdivision (4) of Subsection (a) is a felony of the third degree. "
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So we have here a guy whose behavior caused both (1) and (2), because it caused a police intervention (and he did it with the purpose of seeing that happen), and placed the store owner in a postition of fear of imminent threat, which means it falls under Class B midemeanor on two counts, and reading from the AP article, qualified it into a class A misdemeanor, which, according to the Section 12.21 of the same Texas penal code:
"Sec. 12.21. CLASS A MISDEMEANOR. An individual adjudged guilty of a Class A misdemeanor shall be punished by:
~ ~ (1) a fine not to exceed $4,000;
~ ~ (2) confinement in jail for a term not to exceed one year; or
~ ~ (3) both such fine and confinement. "
(For the record, a class B misdemeanor is half of each punishment)

Which means he can get UP TO $4.000 and/or UP TO 1 year in jail. For now, the AP wire doesn't say if he got either, or what amount. It just stated the MAXIMUM punishment applicable. Now if you don't like Texas law (and I have a feeling that that 22.07 was passed after the Oklahoma city bombing, to avoid pranksters as well as real criminals), well, go live there and get it repelled by writing your state legislature.

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1) For your information, the guy is free on bond.
2) KISS-FM suspended him for that stunt (source 1, Source 2).

What that DJ did was really stupid but the charge is even stupider. There are other things he could be charged with like disturbing the peace and suspious behavior. Lets face it though. Once this case goes to the supreme court this stupid charge will be overturned if not over turned in Texas at some level.


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