Out of the 4 main people from 7 till 10 who do you think would win this big time battle. Tidus with his "Blitz Ace" vs Cloud with his "Omnislash" vs Squall with his "Lionheart" or Zidane with his "Ultimate Trance Move"?
Out of the 4 main people from 7 till 10 who do you think would win this big time battle. Tidus with his "Blitz Ace" vs Cloud with his "Omnislash" vs Squall with his "Lionheart" or Zidane with his "Ultimate Trance Move"?
choas: Well, Zidane's Ultimate Attack is actually called "Grand Lethal", and if you chose by how much damage they could do, then a maxed out Tidus would give a couple blows of 99999 damage to everyone, making him the winner.
Rubedo: But, if not, then either Cloud or Squall. I don't know if this should be in General FF Gaming or what, but I'm not sure if too many of these kind of threads are wanted, but whatever.
You know u r probably right about people not wanting to see this and I am new here so yea I didn't see General FF my bad next time i'll think before posting something. These are thoughts that come to mind and I came onto this site for three reasons one cuz of a friend 2 cuz i like Final Fantasys and 3 cuz i could be heard here. I am curious to see what people have to say bout these things thats all. And to say something bout this fatal 4 way to stay on subject I am not quite sure who would win.
chaos: No I don't mean it that way! I am pretty sure that these kind of threads are fine, and people do want to see them; They are just rarely seen that's why.
Rubedo: I still can't make up my mind though...
My bad for takin it the way I did but, yea well I guess I am bringing in something new. I hope people like what I put I know there prob not the best but, finding out which characters are better is kind of fun to me.
i am going for Squall alll the way :D
Tidus is cool from, what I have heard!
Squall would trample all of them at once.
cloud would kill them all.......kotr
tidus is a pussy i can see him going "Theres gotta be another way than fighting!". Id say Squall or maybe cloud.
Squall would, sice the others are all self-trained. But who cares, anyway? ^^
Statistic-wise, Lionheart (Squall) deals a lot of 9999 blows (goes so fast I can't count them). I don't know Zidane's Ultimate, but his thingy 9 (don;t know name, second best) is only one slash of 9999. Tidus' Blitz Ace is also affective, and Cloud's... dunno..
I'll go with Squall :D
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In 4th place, Zidane. He dosen't even come close. Grand lethal Only does 9999 damage, though it can be done twice. Thats still only 19998.
In 3rd, Cloud. Kind of hard to believe that someone who can do 25 strikes at the speed of light using a *huge* sword only does about 6000 with each strike at level 99. That does about 150000.
In 2nd, Tidus. Although he has the capacity to do something like 13 hits at 99999 damage each (giving a total of 1299987), this is kind of unfair as the others can't go in to quintuple figures. Tidus is still pretty cool though.
In an almighty 1st, Squall. ALL THE WAY YEAH!!!!! Renzokuken max. 8 hits plus Lionheart about 25 again all at 9999 damage gives a grand total of 329967. PLUS by casting Aura he could do it over and over while the rest have to wait.
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Originally Posted by mr. anderson
:: nod nod :: Cloud. Because,come on,Cloud has the Jenova/Mako/Big sword/Materia/Omnislash to back him up. I dont think anything would be left of any of them after Cloud was done. ^_^
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Ummmmm that's tough............ but without a doubt ME!!!!!
between squall and cloud. but i like squall better so im going with him.
lets narrow it down..............ok cloud and squall. thay bot use there special at the same time, each swing there swords meet and right at the end squall thinks it all over and then cloud throws in the final braver......the end
It's easy. Edward/Gilbert would pop up at the last minute and kill the survivor, thus being crowned FF fighter supreme.
Tidus WOuld Win All He Would Need To Do Is Haste Then Quick Hit 1.00000000 Times And He Would Win Its Really That Simply!
Considering all factors involved, I say I'm tired of no characters before FFVII being taken into consideration, and I say that Locke, Terra, Edgar, or Celes from FFVI wins because with the Genji Glove/Offering their normal ATTACK is 8 times for 9,999 damage with the Illumina/Atma Weapon.
Hm, taking training and past into account, instead of Game mechanics. So SPOILERIFFIC
I said SPOILERS! For all games!
Terra or Celes (Locke is important, but I don't think he's a contender, and Terra and Celes are slightly more important anyway): Both are contenders, as they both spend their entire lives being trained by the Empire. Ceres has more military experience, while Terra being a half-esper They'd both probably do better to keep their distance and blast away with magic though. Celes has the edge that she can neutralize enemy magic, while Terra can transform for serious magcial boosts (and being able to fly)
Cloud: A contender here. On one hand, it's important to note that all his talk about bein a member of SOLDIER was delusional. Cloud got the training for a basic grunt. However, he DID get serious Mako treatment after Niebelheim, presumably making him PHYSICALLY the strongest Psychologically and skill-wise though, he's less impressive, though obviously he can fake it enough to fool people, so he's at least competent.
Squall: About the ONLY plain normal human in the bunch (Terra is half-esper, Celes is a Magitec knight, Cloud is Mako infused, Zidane is a weird clone thingy, Tidus is a dream of the Fayth) but one of the better trained. Gunblade expert, member of an elite mercenary fighting force (or at least almost) and I very much had the impression Squall was if not THE, then one OF the best.
Zidane: As much as I like the Casanova, he's brought knives to a sword/magic fight. The guy is a THIEF! A well-trained thief, travelling with the Tanalas, who are pretty elite themselves, but big 'last man standing duels' are probably more Steiner or Freya's terrain. Zidane will just be dodging the buster-sword, gunblade and various magical attacks until he slows down. Of course, beinga thief also has ADVANTADGES. DJ's 'Edward Scenario' also works with Zidane. If CLoud or Squall wins, the winner will be tired and a well placed knife can win the day. IF the winner is Terra or Celes he uses his stealth for a smooth line though, or even worse, to cup a feel (oooh... soft) and gets a face full fo Ultima....
Tidus: No chance I'm afraid. Back in Zanarkand, he clearly showed us that he is NOT a swordfighting expert.... His only chance is fighting underwater, in which case he'd swim circles around everyone else, even Cloud with his 'underwater' materia would be.... dead...
So, barring 'tactical tricks (backstabbing) from Zidane, it's a battle between magic, strength and skill.... Difficult to say who'd win, but I'd have to go with Cloud... magic runs out, and while Squall would be the better choice for a military operation, I'm not sure whether his trainin can overcome Cloud's mako edge.
WInner: Cloud: but he cheated!
as much as I like Squall, I picked Zidane because of his speed, it is unsurpassed
(SPOILER)Zidaine is the second angel of death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rand Al'Tor
Ok Why Do U People Say That Havin 999999 Hp For Tidus Is Not Fair If Everybody Else Is Maxed Out With The Best Equipement! If Tidus At Everthin Maxed Out He Would Win So easily Ok! He Has So Much More Hp And Damage Then Anyone Esle Plus Blitz Ace He Would Everbody And AnyThing In His Path! So Bein Maxed Out Isnt Cheap!
But Tidus can't do anything if he's dead. Even with maxed stats and stuff he would be owned by Lion heart and KotR. And Zidane could just inflict a deadly status effect on him with a status causing dagger+ add effect. Remember that Tidus must have hp break armour and dammage break weapon to break the limmits.
Edit: And don't forget that Cloud, Squall and Zidane go with ATB while Tidus go with CTB whitch means Tidus have to wait... while the others can attack at any time.
Yeah, that's true, He could freeze the other guys then smash 'em for instant death. All the same, Edward is still hiding in the shadows....
I'd have to say Zidane all the way.
Ahhh Tidus. Fill up that sphere grid baby! Lol I dunno....Tidus gets my vote!
In a real battle, as in no HP or Summons, I'd go for Zidane.
Tidus would walk awayand cry somewhere.
Cloud would get..distracted by Tifa
Squall would sit down and get deep in thought
Zidine .....I dunno I don't remember much of ff9
I think Cloud would actually clutch his head because of his Cliche mysterious past, while Squall would be completely apathetic. Zidane would probably say something like "Why should I bother with this? I don't have to, it's not even worth it. See you guys later."
Clearly, all the characters are a little too emo for this battle to work out well.
chaos: Just to remind you guys, if Tidus is maxed out, his Hp would be 99999, giving him an advantage against Zidane. Cloud and Squall could kill him if they had their Ultimate Weapons, Maxed Skills and Limit Breaks.
Rubedo: But still, it all matters on who goes first, but I sure wish you added some people from FFVI and IV. Otherwise, I would have to agree with DJzen about Gilbert :p
Draw what I really wanted is all to be killed.... kidding'...
I'm not sure I know Zidane would lose maybe Squall then it's against Cloud and Tidus, Tidus may be a whiny pansy but using the sphere grid he could be one tough mofo my guy is a tough mofo learning his, Lulu's,Wakka's, Kimarahi's, and now is learning Auron's section on the grid but my Cloud is also one tough mofo......So I'm not sure....but if Sephy came in he kill them both. They and the limit is 9,999 Hp not 99,999! Also the limit for Mp is 999.
but dont forget that Tidus is frozen due to CTB, compared to the rest on ATB
Squalls the most experianced sword fighter there. Tidus hadnt held a sword untill auron gave him one, cloud is useing the skill of another person (zack) and zidane, well ive never been impressed with zidane.
while battle is in it's nature chaos, and even a well experianced sword fighter can be beaten by a beginer in one blow if fate wants it....i would say squall. he has the most balanced weapon and the most experiance
Well It All Depends On Speed Tidus Would Take Out Cloud With Bitz Ace Then Zidane Would Take Out Squall With His Last Attack THing I ForGet The Name After That It Would Be Tidus And Zidane Would Duel Then They Would Tie Cause They Would Attack Each Other At The Same Time
Well, IMO the man who spent most of his life training (Squall) would beat a kid who can barely hold up a sword (Tidus)
Then the military turned mercinary fella (Cloud) would chop up the thief (Zidine)
Then Squall and Cloud, both going through rigorous training and experiance, Would fight for a while with..Squall winning.
People, Squall spent most of his childhood and teen years trying to become the best warrior he could so he could look out for himself. Thats more than a crybaby and a thief can say.
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Anyway, Cloud would blow Tidus's mind away with Omnislash, Squall would own Zidane with Lionhart, and Squall vs. Cloud would be pretty dang close. I think Cloud would come out on top at the end, just because he's that cool.
sorry FFFreakX-2...but speed isnt everything. someone half competant with a sword can take their own time with parrys and blocks no matter how fast or hard their opponant tries to push it. BUT of course in FF theres super moves.
Tasty, cloud wasnt a merc. Zack was. Cloud was a little shinra footsoildger with a rifle. then his mind got mixed up with Zack...thus he thought he was a merc.
okay.....squalls (basic) Gunblade against clouds (basic) Buster sword - squalls gunblade is not only a better balanced weapon and a more practicale one, but the hand and a half grip gives him more leverage and control not to mention the guntrigger ssytem. both have magic so lets not count that lol.
Cloud is useing second memories....ones not actually his, he isnt a natural warrior. Squall is, it's ingrained in his hands, in his instincts. i think squall could pull it off simply on consistancy
Well it would come down to Squall and Cloud, Tidus would lose because look, at 70 stength can any of the other 3 characters hit 9999? I don't think so, although it is possible in FFX, therefore in FFX 99999 (max damage) is Equal to 9999 (max damage) in the other games, and since Tidus's limit hits only hits about 10 times he'll lose before it even begins, Zidane can't do much damage either so he's out too
chaos: This is what would really happen. Squall and Cloud would make Tidus and Zidane get a familiar look at their insides, or, just chop their heads off. Zidane isn't that fast, you know. Most of the group knows how to run.
Rubedo: And then Squall and Cloud will suddenly realize how cool they are, and ride Chocobo's off into the distance. Then Umaro will come and do a special dance and win!
-The End-
i was about to get smutty about Tifa and lulu working off squall and clouds excess energy...but ill leave that to your imaginations :love: :D
cloud would omnislash them all, and theywould all die and they would scream inb pain cos it hurts so much :choc:
squall parrys with renzokuken-omnislash
#4...ZIDAINE
#3...SQUALL
#2(close)...CLOUD
#1....TIDUS!!!(i am the best at playing this character)
Knock it off with the casual insults. We don't allow that. -Murder
if these 4 fight with their stats maxed out (lvl, etc) with the exception of ultimate weapons (excluding squall, since he can only have the lionheart limit break from his final weapon)
that gives these 4 lets say 9999 hp + their other stats
if this is the case zidane will win cause he can wipe out all three opponents with one hit of the grand lethal, while the others will have to use their final limitbreaks more than once.
squall would win. that was easy. Lion heart beats the crap out of them. I could use a bunch of holy wars and with my junctions I could kick zidanes, clouds, and tidus's butt. Without holy waters tidus would probably win. so it goes
1. tidus
2. squall
3. cloud
4. zidane
Squall. Hands down, no questions, Squall would win.
I REALLY REALLY dont know, I mean, I can feel it and I know everyone else knows, I dont think Squall would stand a chance against septhiroth....
And yeah, maybe squall did train all his life to become the strongest, but that doesnt make you the strongest, I believe tidus speed could easily overcome squall, but THAT WONT HAPPEN...Also, Cloud had always wanted to be the strongest also, but THEY THOUGHT he was too weak...the reason I emphasized they thought was, if you played FFVII and understood the story, cloud was able to overcome the original sephiroth and throw him down the bottom of the mako reacter....Then you must also take notice, Cloud was literally Drowned in mako and was heavily induced with jenova cells making physicly the strongest being.
And sorry, I dont know much about zidane, I just heard he was the ultimate theif...So I dont think he would stand a chance....
So after tidus and zidane are out and its cloudvs.squall in one on one... I belive cloud with his omnislash,KOTR, and his body injected with jenova cells.
Also when he said Cloud with his omnislash, this meant AFTER HE RECOVERED HIS memory and discarded Zack's memory, making him once again, a natural warrior.
And the last thing, I'm saying cloud would win IF everything was evened out on one game (like if all of them fought in the FFVII world with FFVII stats) If its not that way, I think Tidus would win hands Down....So fast and all that HP....
if you get super literaly like i like to with these sortof fights, Squall would just shoot everybody in the face and win. if it's just by swordfighting i'd say: Cloud>Squall>Zidane>Tidus (cloud is winner)
No Tidus No Zidane have a chance against the epic battle between Squall & Cloud... This guys are the best swordmans EVER...
Oh! Squall wins by the way...
...and if i see him in trouble i just junction 100 Death to his status attack... I donīt really want see him lose against that weird Mako-insfused-spiked-hair-psycopath-virgin guy.
Tidus would drown everyone with his tears. :(
From there main games, Squall would win mechanically. Story-wise, I'm sure Cloud would win. Dissidia rules... Squall would win again.