Oncoming Oil War

As of late, many people have been accrediting Bush's actions to his lust for the middle-eastern crown jewel - oil fields. The recent increase in prices is only setting a precedent for the bleak future as any industrialized nation is at the mercy of crude oil - not only does it fuel their many machines, it also is the base constituent of many items for the plastic and pharmaceutical industries along with many others. Our reserves are scarce and the source itself is nearly dry, yet we continue to burn through this very limited resource as if it were never-ending. By the end of our lifetimes we will be seeing prices as high as 50$/barrel and they will only escalate until the market finally crumbles and we fall into the worst depression to date.

The words "mako" and "promised land" come to mind.

Hey, without oil what would we make plastics out of?
This is the plastic age after all.

It starts making you think of the terrorists in a new light.

Blowing up a mako reacter? 911. In both innocent people were killed.
Trying to save all the Mako energy and keep it from being used up. Fighting the US
Evil company? They think the US is evil.
AVALNCHE = Terrorists

oh no.....do we really have to go through this again? I'm staying outta this....don't feel like arguing with you pheonix.

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As of late, many people have been accrediting Bush's actions to his lust for the middle-eastern crown jewel - oil fields. The recent increase in prices is only setting a precedent for the bleak future as any industrialized nation is at the mercy of crude oil - not only does it fuel their many machines, it also is the base constituent of many items for the plastic and pharmaceutical industries along with many others. Our reserves are scarce and the source itself is nearly dry, yet we continue to burn through this very limited resource as if it were never-ending. By the end of our lifetimes we will be seeing prices as high as 50$/barrel and they will only escalate until the market finally crumbles and we fall into the worst depression to date.

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Yes, you can continue to believe that we went to war just because of OIL. Well, you guys should know that the USA is a super power and needs oil to continue and thrive. To say that we dont need it is like saying you hate the U.S. I myself personally dont think the war was for oil, but for other things. Take down Saddam, liberate the iraqi people, establish a good government in the region, and hopefully stablize the middle east, one of the most chaos area of the world. Dont get me wrong, I know most people say that the war happened because we wanted to find the WMDs but really, even if we dont find them. We do know that they were once there before. And also that story about America's/ Britain's intelligence that Saddam was trying to get uranium in Africa? Happened to be true, if you look at recent news reports.

I myself think people should stop saying its the problem for the USA, but for the world. Like for example if we were to goto Iran alot of people would say that ;;oh the USA is being a bully!It's only the USA's problem'' when really it should be the world's problem. Because Iran cant be trusted with Nuclear Weapons. And they say its for energy purposes when really I think its for other purposes rather then energy purposes. But yes, the world can just sit by and wait for somthing bad to happen rather then just stop it from happening. And when it does happen dont blame Bush.

This reminds me of that documentary film. What was it called? Hiroshima. Where they were discussing wither we should drop the bomb on Japan to end the war. If we didnt drop the bomb, not so many countries would wanting to have nuclear weapons, including Russia. By not dropping the bomb, it could've prevented from the conflicts of today. There probably would've never been a cold war. Hell, even the USA would be the only country in the world to have the Nuclear Bomb! But who knows, that's history, and what happened, happened.

And I'll say this, that in a lifetime of ours. The hydrogene engine will be finished and we will have no more dependance on foreign oil. And the rich middle eastern countries, and the countries we get the oil from, will be poorer, since we no longer buy there oil. No more money to terrorists! Yay. :) That's all I have to say bout' this.


Yeah, besides liberating Iraq. And the war on terror. I think as a American citizen we should help Africa with the AIDs emergency that is happening down there. We should do good things. Why not help Africa? Lots of people are dieing because of this disease. Hell, you know oil pipelines? Why not make water pipelines go over there so the land gets irrigated! Like the only major river over there is the Nile river. And I'm sure this would work! Just think about the rivers in the USA, like for example. The Columbian river here in Washington flows right out into the pacific ocean. Fresh water, going put to waste. Why make a pipe line damnit! And also whats happening in Sudan, the genocide that is happening, just like what happened years ago in the late 1990s' with Rwanda.People are dieing just because of there religious beliefs and there race. We should help them!


Well enough me blaabbering, I got carried a way. Sorry bout that. :D

We fought an oil war already... Yeh they lost quite a few Iraqis. For the record i said he was trying to gas up Haliburton, since the beggining. Im praying the military will be first to see the need to convert to hydrogen fuel cells. Because they are much more flexible that gas.


Plus i want my Hydrogen-Fuel cell powered Mechwarrior... hey i can dream...

If we were to develop an alternate energy source, the amount of oil consumption eliminated through the use of automobiles alone would allow us to live off our own oil supplies comfortably for years to come.

8% of americas oil is from the middle east, if you want to secure oil supplies invade russia NOW!

Hey, I have no problem seeing oil prices skyrocket. I don't drive, if I get cold I can put on another jumper rather that turn up the heat, and the looming oil prices should help to give the development of alternative energy resources a much need prod up the rear end.

It's unfortunate that those in charge of developing better fuel sorces are those who make their extravagant living off oil.

Renewable energy research is not limited to oil-funded companies. High oil prices will drive innovation in other fields. It's basic supply and demand economics.

You know, there are other, very abundant, energy sources out there. Once we run out of oil - we'll turn to them. Volcanic energy, solar energy, nuclear energy... it's all cool.

The war on terror IS NOT about oil. Well, it is sort of, but it most definetly is not about lowering gas prices. It isn't necessarily about using resources, it's about controlling them. What this war is really about is economic and military supremecy. People who jsut say this war is over oil are mistaken. For anyone who is interested, check out the project for the new american century. It was written by a bunch of conservatives (cheney, rumsfeld, wolfowitz, the list goes on) and it basically outlines what america should do to keep their spot as the worlds sole superpower for as long as humanly possible. These things include, but are not necessarily limited to, Control of middle eastern oil resources, the ability to wage two different major scale wars simultaneously, the control of both outer space AND cyber space. Now if you notce, many many many of the things george bush is doing are enabling him to do jsut that. Biggest military spending increase since ronald reagan. The patriot act, among other things, allows for the government to have more, not total, but far more control over cyber space. Anybody remember when bush suddenly wanted to go to mars? see the connections here? Anyways, if you are interested, check out this document, you can find the official document just by typing it into google. anyways, that's all i have to say for right now.

Yes, there are alternate sources of energy, however they all rely on oil to some extent. Solar panels which are made of plastics are made with machines working off of gas - the cycle is neverending. Society WILL fall into a dark age and the extremely limited amounts of energy left will be given to the ludicrously rich while the peasantry will be left with matches and a bone.

No, we'll find a new, more efficient way to destroy the environment before that happens.

Well there always is anti-matter..... :save:

But God only knows how to stabalize it. It would be the answer to all our problems....I hope they figure it out soon!

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Originally Posted by noname

I myself think people should stop saying its the problem for the USA, but for the world. Like for example if we were to goto Iran alot of people would say that ;;oh the USA is being a bully!It's only the USA's problem'' when really it should be the world's problem. Because Iran cant be trusted with Nuclear Weapons. And they say its for energy purposes when really I think its for other purposes rather then energy purposes. But yes, the world can just sit by and wait for somthing bad to happen rather then just stop it from happening. And when it does happen dont blame Bush.

This reminds me of that documentary film. What was it called? Hiroshima. Where they were discussing wither we should drop the bomb on Japan to end the war. If we didnt drop the bomb, not so many countries would wanting to have nuclear weapons, including Russia. By not dropping the bomb, it could've prevented from the conflicts of today. There probably would've never been a cold war. Hell, even the USA would be the only country in the world to have the Nuclear Bomb! But who knows, that's history, and what happened, happened.

And I'll say this, that in a lifetime of ours. The hydrogene engine will be finished and we will have no more dependance on foreign oil. And the rich middle eastern countries, and the countries we get the oil from, will be poorer, since we no longer buy there oil. No more money to terrorists! Yay. :) That's all I have to say bout' this.


Yeah, besides liberating Iraq. And the war on terror. I think as a American citizen we should help Africa with the AIDs emergency that is happening down there. We should do good things. Why not help Africa? Lots of people are dieing because of this disease. Hell, you know oil pipelines? Why not make water pipelines go over there so the land gets irrigated! Like the only major river over there is the Nile river. And I'm sure this would work! Just think about the rivers in the USA, like for example. The Columbian river here in Washington flows right out into the pacific ocean. Fresh water, going put to waste. Why make a pipe line damnit! And also whats happening in Sudan, the genocide that is happening, just like what happened years ago in the late 1990s' with Rwanda.People are dieing just because of there religious beliefs and there race. We should help them!


Well enough me blaabbering, I got carried a way. Sorry bout that. :D

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So in other words, Arabs are all terrorist, there are no terrorist in any other countries, meaning the terrorist that have been here and protected IN AMERICA don't exsist, and its our right to tell others what they can and can't have, yet our whole god damn ethical system revolves around the opposite of that? Gotcha.

*jumps off a cliff because hes lost all hope for humanity*

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Originally Posted by TasteyPies

The words "mako" and "promised land" come to mind.

Hey, without oil what would we make plastics out of?
This is the plastic age after all.

It starts making you think of the terrorists in a new light.

Blowing up a mako reacter? 911. In both innocent people were killed.
Trying to save all the Mako energy and keep it from being used up. Fighting the US
Evil company? They think the US is evil.
AVALNCHE = Terrorists

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LoL thanks for the beautiful FFVIII analogy. The war is not only oil, which is essential for being number 1 in the world, but also corporate lust. Halliburton and other corporations are making tons and tons of money off the war in Iraq.

And those "private contractors" are actually mercenaries working for such corporations. In fact much of the "American" army there is just mercenaries. If we didn't have them there would be a draft by now.

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And those "private contractors" are actually mercenaries working for such corporations.

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No, they're decent people, trying to make a living. They also improve the infra-structure and general conditions in such places... but the Iraqies wouldn't have that, would they?

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fact much of the "American" army there is just mercenaries.

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The American army consists of paid men and women. Not mercenaries - they work and get paid by a goverment. In dire situations, people are drafted (whether they like it or not)... but I think the last time that happened, was during the war in Vietnam.

Private contractors are indeed mercenaries and operate within their own individual PMC's, which are more often than not working under various corporations. If you want to read more on it just enter "private contractors" and "mercenaries" in any search engine.

And actually much of the fighting force in Iraq is not even American citizens. They agree to fight in return for such things as citizenship and whatnot.

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So in other words, Arabs are all terrorist, there are no terrorist in any other countries, meaning the terrorist that have been here and protected IN AMERICA don't exsist, and its our right to tell others what they can and can't have, yet our whole god damn ethical system revolves around the opposite of that? Gotcha.

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Just because I say a country cant have nukes doesnt mean I'm saying all Arabs are terrorist. I have Arab friends by the way. What I meant was a country as hostile as Iran shouldn't have nukes, we dont want another North Korea. We also dont want alot of countries arming themselves with nuclear weapons. Can you imagine if every other country was armed with them, and there was a world war?Apocalypse.

It's nice that the only country ever to drop nuclear weapons on civilian targets has the high moral fibre to make sure no other countries in the world have the capability to do so :).