Demon's Gate spanking me something fierce!

Well, since I'm away from town and this computer (only here for the weekend), I can't just instantly fire up a character-editor and... correct the odds in that fashion. :o Hey, don't look at me like that! ... Well, not NOW, anyway. So...

Party: Cloud, Aeris, Red XIII
Location: Temple of the Ancients
HP-range: 1200-1600
Levels: 30-33
Damage dealt by Demon's Gate (and the damn red eye-blobs in the 3 o'clock room), standard attack: 1400
(That Red Dragon-thing was defeated by force of will alone - shoulda seen this problem coming.)

Do the math... Goin' back to a previous save to level up and invest in a million HP Plus-materias. Any suggestions for a reasonable level/HP to tackle this SOB? I'm thinking 2000-2500-ish HP.

Well, I don't exactly know what you're asking...but here I go:

The key to defeat the Demon's Gate is Clouds weapon "Nail Bat."
If you can get your hands on that, he's dead meat for sure.
You'll find it somewhere in the "City of the Ancients."

P.s: He's so damn easy...get it together my friend :D

What does the nail bat do that gives you such an advantage?

And the REAL key to defeating him is Aeris's aultimate limit.

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Originally Posted by nik0tine

And the REAL key to defeating him is Aeris's aultimate limit.

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That's what I always do.

Well, I'm too lazy to get Heavenly Gospel (... her L4 IS called that, innit?), and I want my materia to shoot up. :) NB doesn't hold any slots. While I do have the Nail Bat (get pushed off the clock by the second-hand), I still don't see how it'll make a difference, as DG all but kills one character (definite kill if it's Aeris) in just one attack unless I go really wild with Cure 2. What I need above all else is HP, which I'll go purchase as soon as I can. And, of course, offensive might on par with Knights of the Round... The damn thing gave me a REAL whipping.
Also, I'm gonna relish raping those red blobs with eyes all over, and no mistake! :mad2: You know, one of these days I'll just have to piece together a picture incorporating a beam-fight from FS2 and place those blobs in the middle... It ain't fair to absorb 1400 HP without taking any damage first!

Now, what I was asking was simply this: At what level/approximate HP-range am I in a decent position to kick DG inna nuts?

The Hecteyes gave me trouble the first time through. I'd recommend using Odin and hoping it does Steel Bladed Sword.
Anything over 1000 HP I would've thought okay. I always seem to end up using Bahamut summon and Climhazard as much as possible. I don't remember if the attack that drops a rock on a character's head is elemental or not, but maybe try Earth/Titan + Elemental in your armour just in case. Without Aeris' Great Gospel you should probably stick with Healing Wind to back up your Cure 2.

Well, I usually do what Jenova-Rebirth suggests. Well, before I got Great Gospel anyway. The boss doesn't stand a chance against Great Gospel. But, yeah, I remember doing climhazzard very often. Probably because I died over and over again when I first fought him. Good luck.

The Nail Bat has a very high attack power, although it doesn't have any slots or any growth, just remove it after you've defeated the fiend...that's how I always do it...and I've not been killed a single time.

The Red Dragon and the Demon's Gate have always been rather challenging for me. My strategy is just to shift everyone to the back row. I fought with Cloud, Vincent and Yuffie and equipped Cloud with Long Range Materia and it usually paid off in the end. Vincent's Galian Beast pretty much does the killing for you. Climhazzard and newly acquired Bahamut just make the inevitable victory come just that little bit sooner.

I've never bothered getting Great Gospel. In fact, I'm overusing Aeris if she gets Seal Evil.

Use Bahaumut and then do physical attacks and limits the rest of the battle. Anything elemental will do squat.

Back row... :o Why didn't I think of that? Well, I'll pump up my levels/HP a bit all the same, just to be on the safe side. If I get through those Hecteyes and get the Umbrella or whatever it is, perhaps it'll weight up the Nail Bat... Hm... And GREAT Gospel, not Heavenly. Right-o.

As for those Hecteyes, I'm trying for Odin all the time, but they whack Cloud (gave Odin to him) the first round with their ghastly Absorb, then NPC #3, then #2. Grr! Heh, maybe I should level up to at least 35 with the weakest character and REALLY tear 'em up! Then reload and do it again a few times. :radred: To hell with Hecteyes!

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Originally Posted by Jenova·Rebirth

The Hecteyes gave me trouble the first time through. I'd recommend using Odin and hoping it does Steel Bladed Sword.

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Odin will also use Steel-Bladed Sword unless the enemy is immune to instant death, at which point, he will use Gunge Lance.

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I fought with Cloud, Vincent and Yuffie

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May I ask how this was possible? You have to have Aeris in your party at this point.

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Odin will also use Steel-Bladed Sword unless the enemy is immune to instant death, at which point, he will use Gunge Lance.

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also if there is more than one enemy he will use Steel-Bladed Sword, where as if there is just one, immune to death or not, then he will use gunge lance.

I agree with Hsu, deathblow materia will be very useful for this fight.

One other word so he won't hit as fast.

HASTE!!!!!

Get Big Guard. It makes your characters faster and halves all the damage they receive. Put everyone to Fury status (with Hypers) and keep using limit breaks, Bahamut and the strongest summons you have. IIRC, Demon Wall is very well protected against most magic and he can take physical beating too. Heal when needed, Cure spells and Aeris' limit breaks are great for that purpose. If you have Regen, cast it on everyone. I don't think you need that high levels, though about 2000 HP should be fine. It's a pretty hard boss, I remember being stuck on that one for a few tries during my first time through FFX. However, keep yourself protected and healed, and keep using your limit breaks, and you'll eventually defeat that wall.

deathblow, bahamut, all that stuff'll help alot. even if nail bat doesn't have ne growth or slots, still use it. you can get AP ANYWHERE, so don't worry about it now. big guard, like Sephiroth1999AD said, will help. that's about it, and have phoenix downs, or life (if u can get it yet), and cure on everyone'll help to

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And the REAL key to defeating him is Aeris's aultimate limit.

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That would be trying MUCH harder than necessary. It took me 2 tries to beat this thing, it isn't THAT hard. I didn't even have the nail bat, or any Enemy Skills.

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One other word so he won't hit as fast.

HASTE!!!!!

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Exactly what I did. Congrats!!! *gives Halenite 3 cookies*

the key is to cast barrier and haste on the whole party, regen would help alot to and if this strategy dosen`t work you should give up now

not true alls u need is alot a few phoenix downs, and possibly some potions and healing magic, and can u get barrier/haste by then?

Here is the strategy that I use. Keep in mind that I fight this guy at a level of under 20.

Everyone in the back row. Its murder otherwise.

Aeris will constantly heal with cure or here level 1 limit. Be in Fury.

Next person will have choco-mog linked with added effect on the weapon. No Fury.

Cloud uses the level 1-2 limit break. Fury.

When demon gate is frozen I use my powerful summons w/Aeris.

Thats my strat and it kicks total ass. Nothing else is needed as Demon's Gate can't move most of the time.

you should also go get the Enemy Skill Big Gaurd (Manipulate Big Plugs on the Costa Del Sol Beach line ) wich gives you Wall+Haste wich will cut his attacks down to a Reasonable 600ish?

I use Great Gospel.

You are Sephiroth! You don't care about anyone but
yourself! You enjoy seeing people suffer. You
want to take over the world.


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If you wanna defeat it... use vincent, Cloud, and Aeris... I didn't put vincent into his over drive...make sure you have life2 equip that to aeris's make sure to also have cure3 on aeris as well use poison i forgot if it works and have comet2 fire3 ice3 and bolt3...also have aeris to her ultimate limit break....well that's how i did it even though Cloud didn't survive the match....heh

u get comet after the temple of the ancinets buddy sheesh. and to get lv.3 spells'd take FOREVER

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want to take over the world.


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If you wanna defeat it... use vincent, Cloud, and Aeris... I didn't put vincent into his over drive...make sure you have life2 equip that to aeris's make sure to also have cure3 on aeris as well use poison i forgot if it works and have comet2 fire3 ice3 and bolt3...also have aeris to her ultimate limit break....well that's how i did it even though Cloud didn't survive the match....heh

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umm...srry! oh yeah...that's right........i forgot sheesh i've only gotten to the 3rd disk once! and i don't play to much!!! in fact....i only played ummm...let's see about....4 months ago and that's just any video game! i'm a movie person.... oh yeah i forgotabout comet! my game fluked up then...i already had comet materia! 0.0 oh well it usually dose anyways........haaa...oh well srry every one! ^_^'

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Originally Posted by One_winged_angel_of_death

umm...srry! oh yeah...that's right........i forgot sheesh i've only gotten to the 3rd disk once! and i don't play to much!!! in fact....i only played ummm...let's see about....4 months ago and that's just any video game! i'm a movie person.... oh yeah i forgotabout comet! my game fluked up then...i already had comet materia! 0.0 oh well it usually dose anyways........haaa...oh well srry every one! ^_^'

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Sorry for what?

ummm...about the posting.....oh and whatever i wrote.....i'm tired let's see i went to a dance won first prize woke up at 3 a.m and ung.......have a bad memory at video games only....ah well.

my main strat was to get the princess guard (i think that is what it is) and load aerith up with most of my summons the just unload on him

you might also want to go to the fossle city and go into the forest and get kajata it will do tons of damage

better than my stratagy.

tell u what, i had problems with demon gate.#
the first time i went in there i was an average lvl and i had brought Cid.
Cid is good AFTER you get quite far in the game and youve trained him up a lot. Anyway, lowish lvl, and i brought Cid. Mistake. Over and over again I got caned. The move where he drops the rock on your head killed my Cid and Cloud IN ONE HIT it did 1300+. It killed them almost exactly Strangely it never did the rock move on Aeris. Shame, i wanted her to die even earlieer than she does anyway mwa ha ah ah aha h a ha :D :D
But then i reloaded my game just before u actually go in, and picked Red XIII instead (whos my fav character).
Also, when i was inside, i trained up LOADS

I THEN ABSOLUTELY SLAUGHTERED DEMON GATE
MWA HA HA HA HA HA THUS IS THE WRATH OF THE KING OF DRAGONS......... ME hee hee
Just train up Just train up
Just train up Just train up
Demon Gate was a doss after i trained up

Demon's Gate is the hardest boss up to that point in the game by far. Once you get past him its basically a cake walk until the end of Disc 2 IMO.