i don't really agree with the rumor that Yuffie likes Squall, but it's better than the rumor that she and Reno :sweatdrop are lovers! UGH!
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i don't really agree with the rumor that Yuffie likes Squall, but it's better than the rumor that she and Reno :sweatdrop are lovers! UGH!
yeh renos mine!!!! anyhoo, no i dont think its true, it dosn't have any hints, well i dont THINK it has, even if she does squall WILL stay faithfull to rinoa (he WILL i tell you...)
I think that rumour is completely founded on the fact that she keeps picking on him in the early part of the game.
Rinoa may not even exist to the KH Squall, so that has little to do with it. KH is completly it's own story.
That's true too. I'd forgotten about that point.
Rubedo: For all we know though, Rinoa could come in at any time in KHII, begging for her boyfriend back. :p
Or, we cud see Irvine with shotgun!!
I don't see much behind Yuffie's teasing with Leon (Squall is dead to him at this point). I see their interaction as a more friend base. But who knows, they didn't really give Yuffie much camera time, especially interacting with Leon. It's a possibility!
Plus I'm a Squall/Leon/Rinoa fan. :D I would be happy if she came into KHII just to put him back into shape.
I guess you're right
no way :mad: , Rinoa may be nice but i just can't picture her on her knees begging for Squall :goofy: . she might come in mad in KHII and like klonk Squall in the head :laugh: !Quote:
Originally Posted by Trumpet Thief
True. That'd be fun. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Yuffie514
Actually, at one point, Yuffie does say that Squall can be kinda cute/sweet (I don't remember which) sometimes. I think it's when you talk to them after Donald and Goofy join your team, and Squall tells you about the Dalmations. It's an optional scene, but it's the only thing I can think of that would serve as a basis for this rumor.
she's a girl, it's only natural for her to say that :D . i don't know who Yuffie may like :mad: , but she's better off a materia-thief than a girlfriend :p .Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyblade
I think that Rinoa was a citizen of Hollow Bastion and died when the Heartless attacked, i've just decided to play throuh KH again and at the start when Sora mentions his friends once or twice Leon flinches. May he changed his name because he couldn't save her.
And I think Yuffie is just being friendly.
Why not? Yuffie's a hotty!
It's possible that Rinoa was living in Hollow Bastion, but not neccesary, especially since we dont see her with Leon at the end, when the citizens of Hollow Bastion are reunited. Also, the fact that Selphie lives on Destiny Islands... Rinoa could be on a whole different world, or not exist at all. There were a lot of people at Hollow Bastion no doubt, maybe innocent people Leon failed to protect.
Besides, I advanced this theory first... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Jellisaurus
I think Yuffie was trying to "get close" to Squall, but stopped when she found out that he had no materia. :D
hey Yuffie Having A Crush On Squall is fine with me...
they would make a nice pair
...or, they could make a silly pair :tongue: . she seems to fit in with Squall as a little sister ;) , sorta :mad: . i think Yuffie's more interested in stealing his belongings than to date him :tongue: :p . it could be trickery since stealing involves time and patience :evilking: . yes, i see where the plan is going and when the time is right -- YOINK! :grinpink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Destination0
Nothing indicates that Materia so much as exists in Kingdom Hearts, or that the Yuffie of Kingdom Hearts was a thief. I realize that most of those of you making Posts to that affect are probably joking, but I thought I should put that out there.
Anyway, as has been previously stated, it's not indicated that a Rinoa existed in Kingdom Hearts.
well, once a thief always a thief :p . maybe i'll steal for good reasons from time to time :mad: :tongue: . as for the Rinoa part, she could still appear anytime in KH2 :D .Quote:
Originally Posted by Squall of SeeD
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Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
I think this doesn't include his story.In fact I don't wanna think about it.It's too difficult and boring.Far more interesting point of view that he is the only survivor(as far as we know) of his world.Don't know about Selphie.How does she fit in?But I won't guess and just wait for KH II to come out.Then everything will become clear(maybe not everything but most).Squall is 25 years old in KH and 17 in FF VIII, which says about a lot of possibilities.Whatever, the scar, "gift" from Seifert is on his head.
Do you even know why he changed his name? He went from Squall to Leon because, he didn't want people to know his first name because he was the only one to make it out of the darkness that was spreading in the ff8 world! Like he didn't want to be a disgrace since he didn't save his friends or something.
Whatever happened I believe Rinoa is save and now when allthe worlds which fell prey to Heartless are restored.And they are, if someone doubt.Destiny Islands are the good example. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
Not the FFVIII world. He lives in Hollow Bastion with Cloud, Aerith, and Cid. That ALONE is enough to show that his story is not the same. He's not an exclusion to the rule. Selphie being a child is further evidence, and the fact that the creators have said that KH is a stand-alone universe. The goings on in KH are not effected by the stories of FF, or vice-versa. Further proof? Aerith is alive. Further proof? Cloud has a wing. Further proof? Tidus growing up with Wakka and Selphie.
The scar is there because it's part of his character. When we're introduced to Squall, he doesnt have a scar. Then, five seconds later, he receives it. It's part of his character.
The universes do not mix. The inclusion of FF and Disney characters is for fun. Look at, for instance, the story of The Little Mermaid. Ursula is killed before Ariel becomes a human and meets her Prince. If the worlds were the same, then that would negate the entire movie. Same goes for pretty much every world around.
They do not mix.
edit - Jack, I cant understand what you mean by the last part of it. Believe what you want regardless, I'm merely speculating.
It always seemed to me that he changed his name to forget his world, his past, his friends who lost their hearts(as he thinks).And friends he couldn't save which is most important.This is it.A clean slate. A new name, new memories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lone Wolf Leonhart
It's stated that he changes his name out of guilt. He didnt want to be called Squall anymore. He never starts over, he works to stop the Heartless... with Yuffie and Aerith no less. If he wanted to start over, he would have left them. They're just more memories from his world, anyway.
They are NOT from his world.Yuffie is from world of FF VII as well as Aerith.And if he didn't want to be called Squall anymore doesn't it mean "start over" or start from the beginning?I'm sure it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
Maybe you should play the game. I understand that the games they come from are VII and VIII. I'm not an idiot. However, in the universe of Kingdom Hearts they are from the world of Hollow Bastion. This is fact.
He didnt want to start over. If he wanted to start over, he would have left everything and forgotten about the Heartless. He didnt want to be called Squall because he was ashamed of his failure. You can argue with me all you want, but it's in the game.
Nomura, the creator himself, has stated that it's a different universe. At the end of the game, Squall, Yuffie, Cid, Cloud, and Aerith are all reunited on their own world... Hollow Bastion.
Nomura indeed said all of this but did he give you list of differences in which this reality alters fom other?And they are not all from the World of Hollow Bastion.If Selphi Wakka and Tidus, who also are from FF games series are from the Destiny Islands in this reality, why then others can't be from anywhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
I played the game and don't think you're the idiot.I think you are too excited.Please control yourself.This is just my opinion.Isn't it great all people have different opinions about something?Otherwise it would be to boring.Don't you agree? :)
I'm not excited, please don't talk down to me. I thought you hadnt played the game by the way you talked.
Not all characters from one game go to the same world, as is evidence by Tidus, Selphie, and Wakka. The others have been on Hollow Bastion quite some time, perhaps even their whole lives, as is evidence by what Aerith says.
The fact that Selphie is 8 or so is enough proof that things didnt happen the way they did in VIII. If they did, why would Selphie be a child while Squall was an adult? They grew up together, didnt they? Until they were sent to Gardens, of course. If the events of VIII happened in that universe, then Selphie would be the same age as Squall. That's proof enough.
And there's a large difference between opinion and fact.
Whatever.What IS the fact?The heroes we are talking about are made up.They are not real.There are plenty of them in our minds.Some are evil because you think they are evil, others good as long as you think they are good.The power is in our imagination.We make them alive.
About storyline.There are a lot of untold things yet to be told.Let's wait for the KH II.Otherwise we are just wasting our time.
As for talking down to you, I'm sorry if my words offended you.Gods know,I didn't want it.I would chat more but it's time for sleep now.It's midnight in my country.It was very pleasant for me to talk with you.See ya!
Fact can be substantiated by evidence, which is what I have provided. Fact can be proven.
I'm not saying we shouldnt imagine further, but if we speculate with any hope at coming up with a logical conclusion, the facts have to be taken into account. Yes, they are made up characters. But that doesnt mean their stories dont apply, it doesnt mean fact cant be taken into account. It'd be like, if at the end of VIII someone said Rinoa was really Squall's enemy. That's an opinion. But it can be disproven by fact. By many facts in fact.
All I'm saying is the characters, in the universe of KH, come from Hollow Bastion and Destiny Islands. In the universe of KH, the events of VIII didnt happen as they happened in the game, if they happened at all. We never learn how KH Squall gets his scar, so we can easily speculate about that. Perhaps Seifer existed in the world of Hollow Bastion, and gave Squall that scar. Perhaps in the world of HB, Cloud is Squall's rival, and Cloud gave him that scar. Maybe Rinoa exists in this universe at Hollow Bastion. Maybe she exists on a different world. Maybe she doesnt exist at all. There are no facts to prove one way or the other.
There are, however, facts to prove that Squall, Yuffie, Aerith, Cloud, and Cid all lived in Hollow Bastion, together. There are also facts that prove the events of VIII couldnt have happened. The world of VIII as we know it cannot exist as we know it... because of Selphie's age. Those are substantiated by fact.
why can't he just live in hollow bastion, and originaly be from balamb?
How did he get from Balamb to Hollow Bastion? Why would he go there? If he has his scar in KH and came from Balamb, then that means the events of VIII happened, which is impossible because of the Selphie factor. Aerith talks about living together, all of them, for quite some time.
Why cant he just be a character set in a different universe from the one we're used to, like Nomura said? Because...? Why?
Edit: Further proof exists in Tidus and Wakka. Tidus is (SPOILER)a dream in FFX. But nothing in the events of KH warrants him being there, much less warrants him staying. There are no fayths (at least that we know of) and no reason for Tidus to be there if he existed in the same universe as X.
Has anyone ever read Tsubasa? It's a Clamp manga that takes the main characters of a few different mangas (Card Captor Sakura and many others) and puts them in a whole different universe. It's a story with characters we know, but it exists apart from their normal stories. It's a very good example of the differences between KH and FF.
I just wanted to say that his story could take place as in FF VIII world just like ina another.Maybe in Hollow Bastion World.And you can't prove that his friends from the FF VIII world weren't with him there.Just like I can't prove they WAS there.We know too little about the game and universe in which heroes exist.So, it's just a matter of faith.Until the truth will be revealed.In the next Kingdom Hearts series games I suppose.
I can, however, prove Selphie wasnt there, which is my entire point. The story as we know it did not happen. If a version of it happened in Hollow Bastion, we dont know, but we do know that it wouldnt be exactly the same.
You'll notice that I never said it wasnt possible that Rinoa existed, that Seifer gave him that scar, etc. Everything I did claim, however, is easily backed up by evidence and logic.