Nuclear War : a nightmare waiting to happen...

Nuclear war is possibly one of the biggest threats to the existence of human civilization to emerge within the last century.Since the A-Bombs were dropped on the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, I think it's possibly one of the biggest issues on the international front.

Though thankfully we have the UN and the START 1 , START 2 international treaties , as well as the upcoming G8 superpower conference , it's still a major concern ,particularly where China and North Korea's nuclear weapons programs are concerned ...

Imagine waking up one typical tabloid morning and picking up the paper to find that half of the population of the world had been totally wiped out ... to me, that's just a nightmare waiting to happen.

Yeah but with people like Bush and Kim Something II in power the horror only gets worse as they keep making them or try to make them.

I mention Bush because we appearantly need to stay one step ahead on the front of nuclear disaster by building bunker busting nukes. Correct me if I am wrong but if the other guys are in a bunker they would die anyways. If not from the blast the from the radiation.

The Bush administration knows very well that they could and would start the third world war (if they had enough time in power, that is) and that is why we are still worried about building up our nuclear aresenal.

Don't worry about the nuclear war, the US military is developing technology to construct antimateria bombs already, so when the world population is erradicated, it will be in a clean and ecological way, with no radiation.

I seriously doubt someone is going to start a Nuclear War, I'm sure even Bush isn't THAT stupid.

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Originally Posted by Shadow Nexus

the US military is developing technology to construct antimateria bombs already

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With technology like that, the word "superpower" would surely have to be upped a notch

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I seriously doubt someone is going to start a Nuclear War, I'm sure even Bush isn't THAT stupid.

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It's not Bush. It's Rove. And it won't appear stupid from the begining, because we will have a huge strategical advantage. Hitler was smart, and he started a world war because he thought he could win it. Winning is all that will matter to a person like Hitler, or Karl Rove. People's lives are not a factor.

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Originally Posted by nik0tine

It's not Bush. It's Rove. And it won't appear stupid from the begining, because we will have a huge strategical advantage. Hitler was smart, and he started a world war because he thought he could win it. Winning is all that will matter to a person like Hitler, or Karl Rove. People's lives are not a factor.

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Forgive me for asking but....Who is Karl Rove?


The reason I ask this is because I haven't watched the news for a long while.

Bush's Propaganda Minister, or, whatever his real title is. He's eerily reminiscent of Joseph Goebbels.

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Originally Posted by Doomgaze

Bush's Propaganda Minister, or, whatever his real title is. He's eerily reminiscent of Joseph Goebbels.

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thanks for the info :)

He's a genius though. BEFORE George W. Bush was even into politics.. before he was governor of Texas, Karl Rove said "Im gonna make him president" and he did it. I hate him, but I respect, and envy his power.

Funny enough it takes only 300 nukes to destroy the planet, mind you that by then we would all be dead from the radiation. If I heard right the US has 1400 nukes, and Russia has, *thinks* I know it's a little over a thousand, maybe? Plus there is other countries who have nuclear technology: China, India, Pakistan, Isreal (though they deny it), Iran has wants to have nuclear power plants (unless they already have them...). Austarlia is a no nuke zone. But, I am not that worried about nuke war, because they are trying to disarm. The Us wanted to put the plutonium in the Canadian Shield, but Canada refused.

I would laugh so hard if the world got into a nuclear war, tried to use the nukes, and had every single flipping one be a dud.

...of course, we'd just build more. Then I wouldn't laugh anymore. :(

Summoner, you're right that the world spends too much time/money on nukes. IMHO, it's strictly a game of "my :eek::eek::eek::eek: is bigger than yours". If hostile aliens from outer space come around or something, that'd be one thing, but come on. The only hostile aliens I know of are (perhaps) a few EoFF members. :) :alien:

I think we should disarm. Not because I'm a pacifist, but because with thousands of nukes kicking around, we're just begging somebody to fire off a couple. And if one of us does, everybody else will, and we're royally screwed. Why not go back to the days of using swords and stuff, rather than huddle in a foxhole praying somebody hundreds of miles away doesn't decide to push a little red button?

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Originally Posted by Itsunari 2000

Imagine waking up one typical tabloid morning and picking up the paper to find that half of the population of the world had been totally wiped out ... to me, that's just a nightmare waiting to happen.

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That wouldn't scare very many people, because most people would assume the tabeloids were as full of BS as ever. :)

The nuke has no reason to be built up in the first place, It should never be used so why some war monger twit has enough nukes to destory the world is pretty scary.
I would say the bigger nuke threat isnt from the middle east but bush himself.

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Originally Posted by The Summoner of Leviathan

If I heard right the US has 1400 nukes, and Russia has, *thinks* I know it's a little over a thousand, maybe? Plus there is other countries who have nuclear technology: China, India, Pakistan, Isreal (though they deny it), Iran has wants to have nuclear power plants (unless they already have them...). Austarlia is a no nuke zone. But, I am not that worried about nuke war, because they are trying to disarm. The Us wanted to put the plutonium in the Canadian Shield, but Canada refused.

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You forgot the UK and France who both have nuclear arsenals, and who in the event of a nuclear war would probably be on the side of the US, as would Israel. India and Pakistan would probably just nuke each other to kingdom come. Russia no longer have much power anymore, so if you ask me, the main threats are China and North Korea. Well no, the main threat is probably the USA, but these two countries are more likely to want to start a nuclear war with the USA than any of the others with a nuclear arsenal.

I know I forgot some Psy, thanks. Well the UK would also be on the US's side too (I know it's off topic), France wouldn't mind you they like their nuclear testing *coughs*Pacific Ocean. But yeah, why have weapons where only cockroaches survive? And have the only disposible way of getting rid of them is to let the plutonium decay for a couple centuries. the advent of weapons is foolish, and the main reason that the US has so many nukes is The Cold War. I find that terrible that humankind can be prognators to such fool things. No wonder they say we will fall l by our own hands; we are a race that creates ways destroy not only ourselves, but Nature. A Nuclear War would mark the end of our civilization, of all life.

If the worldleaders are stupid enough to push that button, well, then hope I just die in a direct hit. Else we die from radiaton and I rather die in a direct hit then from radiaton.

But I doubt they will be that stupid to fire one. The only thing that really happens is that the world is blowen to pieces and well, what is that for an advantage if you blow yourself up?? The only thing we need to worry about with Nuclear and dead is a explosion in a nuclear facility or a terrorist attack with a nuke bomb. At least that's my opinion.

I'm not really worried about it ever happening, though it's so very possible. But I mean, really, what could we do about it? I'm sure our government is working on something that will somehow trick nukes into going out into space and blowing up when they're aimed at us...or some other nuke-defensive technology. :rolleyes2

Yeah, it's a threat, but to me it's like worrying about Yellowstone erupting or the San Andreas Fault expanding...or the sun dying...I mean, there are people in control and could do something about it, but governments are greedy and sneaky, and even if we were to get rid of all the nukes, like launch them out into space or something, someone would hide some somewhere else, or just make some more later. There's just too many stupid evil people on the planet, and sadly, many of them are in positions of power.

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

Russia no longer have much power anymore

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Shhhh! If they hear you, they'll build a billion nukes! :mad2:

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Originally Posted by DMKA

I'm not really worried about it ever happening, though it's so very possible. But I mean, really, what could we do about it? I'm sure our government is working on something that will somehow trick nukes into going out into space and blowing up when they're aimed at us...or some other nuke-defensive technology. :rolleyes2

Yeah, it's a threat, but to me it's like worrying about Yellowstone erupting or the San Andreas Fault expanding...or the sun dying...I mean, there are people in control and could do something about it, but governments are greedy and sneaky, and even if we were to get rid of all the nukes, like launch them out into space or something, someone would hide some somewhere else, or just make some more later. There's just too many stupid evil people on the planet, and sadly, many of them are in positions of power.

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*cough*Dubya*cough* sorry I seemed to have had a recent cold.

Jiminy Christmas folks. I've got this idea. Lets all make a BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG list of everything that could go wrong and kill us all.

I'll give myself the next 60 seconds... starting now.

Ozone layer erosion
Massive Tsunami
Meteor Crash knocking planet into smaller obrit roasting us all
Nuclear War
Nuclear Winter
WW III
Food poisoning
Continual erosion of natural resources
over population
Mad Cow disease
blight
famine
flood
disruption to world weather patterns
Maniac holed up in a bunker with seemingly unlimited funds and insanity petting a white persian cat while his world destroying laser cannon is launched into orbit powered by the diamonds from the crown jewels stolen from the queen mums head.


That was just a WEE bit over 60 seconds. heres the deal. you worry about nuclear war. why? You've got a million natural ways to die and no one controlling it. then you've got nuclear war prospects. yeah, nuclear war will kill you real good, but all jokes aside? no one on this planet has the stones to pull the trigger that destroys the earth. no one. So i dunno, go watch some MTV. No one's gonna make you glow anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by SocietyzAntidote

Jiminy Christmas folks. I've got this idea. Lets all make a BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG list of everything that could go wrong and kill us all.

I'll give myself the next 60 seconds... starting now.

Ozone layer erosion
Massive Tsunami
Meteor Crash knocking planet into smaller obrit roasting us all
Nuclear War
Nuclear Winter
WW III
Food poisoning
Continual erosion of natural resources
over population
Mad Cow disease
blight
famine
flood
disruption to world weather patterns
Maniac holed up in a bunker with seemingly unlimited funds and insanity petting a white persian cat while his world destroying laser cannon is launched into orbit powered by the diamonds from the crown jewels stolen from the queen mums head.


That was just a WEE bit over 60 seconds. heres the deal. you worry about nuclear war. why? You've got a million natural ways to die and no one controlling it. then you've got nuclear war prospects. yeah, nuclear war will kill you real good, but all jokes aside? no one on this planet has the stones to pull the trigger that destroys the earth. no one. So i dunno, go watch some MTV. No one's gonna make you glow anytime soon.

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Yeah, but neclear war is within the control of humanity, unlike a tsunami or earthquake, so that's completely different.

And no, I'd rather not watch MTV...it's more depressing than the thought of nuclear war.

a) that was my point, that it's within the control of humanity. Seeing as how humans probably don't want to be made extinct (theres kinda that whole "mutual assured destruction" thing from the cold war, FYI) then i'd be far more worried about natural disasters. b/c mother nature doesn't seem to really give an F whether we make it.

and B) the MTV line was from a henry rollins book, Black Coffee Blues. I hate MTV. Alot.