Wacko Jacko on trial.

So it's very hard to find anything I would consider to be solid news on this subject. I am aware that the jurors are currently being selected and that the judge will be allowing the jurors to look at Michael Jackson's porn collection...yay...but what else is there to know and what do you think the outcome of this trial is going to be?

I can't see Michael Jackson, even if found guilty, ending up in a regular prison, that's if he is found guilty at all. My knowledge of the American justice system is very restricted but could he plead insanity, and if he did what would happen if they can prove he is mentally ill? I think it will prove to be an interesting case, and they are calling it trial of the century, but being that we are 4 years and a month into the century there hasn't been a great deal of competition.

probaly guilty aparently prisoners don't take kindly to child molesterers.
he might get off with pleading insane but whos to say even if he does get off with it not many people like him anymore and his popularity has hit rock bottom

Hes not well at all and I cant picture him ever admitting it. They say the only people he can relate to are little boys. I guess the fans and the public are the ones that did this to him anyway.

Coming up trial of the century part II.

In a bizzare turn of events, Michael Jackson is suing the United States of America. Not the government but the actual country and all of its citizens in an unprecidented reverse class action lawsuit. A reverse class action law suit would be defined as when one entity sues a class of people. In this case the enitity is Mr. Jackson and the class would be the citizens of the United States of America.

He claims that it is their fault he has become the way he is and is suing for countless years of mental anguish and the right to be who he is as it is the people who turned him into a monster.

Because everyone in the USA is part of the defendent side, there are no jurors. Special Jurors are being paid to come and decide the trail from all over the world. This is the first time this has ever happened but there was no choice in the matter.

More as it develops.

Are you serious? Seriously? Because that's brilliant.

No one famous or high-profile ends up in the average prison population.

Anyway, I dont know if he did it. It isnt my business if he did it. If he did, I hope he gets prosecuted. If not, I hope he gets off. I really, really dont care much about this trial.

The one thing I really wanted to comment on is the responsibility of the parents of the accuser. Micheal Jackson has been accused of child molestation before. Whether he did it or not, no parents should have been letting their kids stay the night with him after that. I question the entire thing, because of this... because it's a great way to get money, whether he did it or not.

If he is found insane/mentally ill, which I highly, highly doubt will actually happen, he'll be sent to a mental institution. Once he's well, he will then be let out, but will have to serve time in prison.

I hope he isn't found guilty. Michael Jackson is one of my favorite music artists and is also the most prestigious philanthropist that I know of.

We can only pray that he's found isocent and justice is returned to our world...

Even if they win and he is found guilty i'll still like him because I know he's inocent.
(And his name's Michael Jackson not "Wacko Jacko"!)

I don't know really. I think he has some issues, but I don't think he's really a child molester.

Jackson is, without a doubt "damaged goods", but how damaged and why could be at the very core of this trial. Just as in every celebrity trial, there will be questions about whether those who are charging him are looking for money, whether Jackson's laywers can find a way to wiggle him out of trouble and should he be found guilty, a way for him to avoid a federal prison.

I cannot comment on what I think happens here, but Jackson is not the King Of Pop he once was. From his many infamous public actions, from holding his child over a railing, to naming children "Blanket", to the entire race fiasco, he has either purposely or unintentionally stirred up more trouble and questions than any celebrity I can think of.

I worry, quite frankly, if Jackson can get away with claiming he has had "No Childhood and thus is now trying to live out his childhood" because that to me sounds like a serious plead for help and does not really answer as to whether or not he has taken advantage of any children.

I suppose, we'll have to wait and see, but the longer this trial goes, the more questions will appear.

Take care all.

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I worry, quite frankly, if Jackson can get away with claiming he has had "No Childhood and thus is now trying to live out his childhood" because that to me sounds like a serious plead for help and does not really answer as to whether or not he has taken advantage of any children.

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That's true. If anything that's saying "I might touch kids, but that's okay because it's just me taking back my childhood by ruining others."

My sentiments exactly Jess. Very well said.

Take care all.

Somehow i feel the outcome would be like the Peterson case, circumstancial evidence and media driven. -_-;

With a TV movie out before the verdict is announced too?

Take care all.

I don't think Jackson molested any children. I think he is desperately trying to be the father he never had.

There , are of course , rumours circulating that the motives behind the charges aren't entirely honest ie. they're in it for the money. Then again ,it's just a rumour ... but it's possible.

Does anyone have any strong opinions on this allegation ?

It certainly wouldnt surprise me. As I said before, who sends their child to the home of an accused child molester? I never would, I know that. I wouldnt take the slightest chance in letting my child be harmed like that. The parents are irresposible at best, swindlers at worst.

loved his oldschool music but these days i just dont care for the guy anymore...its just so evident he is an attention seeker even when he has to face a trial for something so serious!

As for the allegation im not sure all the information i get is either more here-say or evidently sensationalised from the media...but i do know he does have troube dealing with moving on from his childhood days in which he evidently didnt experience to an extent!

I can't say I believe one way or another concerning his guilt. I haven't seen any real evidence motivated by public or private concern that hasn't been tainted by money or other scandal.

However, I'm not going to defend his actions, his behavior or the way he has chosen to live his life. "I'm trying to find my childhood"? Please. Hundreds of thousands of children lead much worse lives. Hundreds of thousands of people have had much much more taken away from them and still became intelligent, productive members of society who don't bitch and whine about the card they were dealt. He didn't have a good father? He didn't get to "have" a childhood? There are members of this forum who grew up without one of their parents, there are probably members of this forum who have been abused. I'm expected to feel sympathetic towards him because he had a "bad" child hood, made a gazillion dollars and decided the best way to handle it was to go psycho? Spare me, there are others out there who are much more deserving of your sympathy.

Celebrities are crybabies. >:O

I'm really not too fond of Michael Jackson, but I don't have any opinion one way or another unless I can see some concrete evidence either way. I am a firm believer in "innocent until proven guilty", so at the moment, until you can show me otherwise, I would say that he's innocent.

If I had an abusive father, a religious nut mother, and a missing childhood like Michael Jackson, I'd be as wacko as Jacko. :tongue:

I don't care one way or another wether he is guilty or not. But somehow I am thinking he is more guilty than innocent. Not that I have any hard evidence to support my opinion. Still, the only evidence is finding a porn tape with both Michale's and the kid's fingerprints on it. Oh well.

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However, I'm not going to defend his actions, his behavior or the way he has chosen to live his life. "I'm trying to find my childhood"? Please. Hundreds of thousands of children lead much worse lives. Hundreds of thousands of people have had much much more taken away from them and still became intelligent, productive members of society who don't bitch and whine about the card they were dealt. He didn't have a good father? He didn't get to "have" a childhood? There are members of this forum who grew up without one of their parents, there are probably members of this forum who have been abused. I'm expected to feel sympathetic towards him because he had a "bad" child hood, made a gazillion dollars and decided the best way to handle it was to go psycho? Spare me, there are others out there who are much more deserving of your sympathy.

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I couldn't agree with you more. The money has obviously sent him bonkers making him believe he can relive a "lost" childhood. Like you say he could have done anything with his vast wealth and look how he's used it. Anyway he must be mental, he let Lisa Marie Pressley get away!

i don't know about jackson i've just got a feeling he hasn't got the mental capacity to abuse anyone. In that interview with sikofant martin bashir he appeared as someone very much out of touch with reality i don't think sexuality is something that occupies his mind space.

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I can't say I believe one way or another concerning his guilt. I haven't seen any real evidence motivated by public or private concern that hasn't been tainted by money or other scandal.

However, I'm not going to defend his actions, his behavior or the way he has chosen to live his life. "I'm trying to find my childhood"? Please. Hundreds of thousands of children lead much worse lives. Hundreds of thousands of people have had much much more taken away from them and still became intelligent, productive members of society who don't bitch and whine about the card they were dealt. He didn't have a good father? He didn't get to "have" a childhood? There are members of this forum who grew up without one of their parents, there are probably members of this forum who have been abused. I'm expected to feel sympathetic towards him because he had a "bad" child hood, made a gazillion dollars and decided the best way to handle it was to go psycho? Spare me, there are others out there who are much more deserving of your sympathy.

Celebrities are crybabies. >:O

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He was abused by his Father and what he did wasn't Psycho he just had some kids over his house as freinds - yes becuause he want's to be a child still. I understand that 'cause there are times when I feel the same way, Infact we're very similar. That's what made me a fan of his. The music came second.

I think he's guilty of being weird ... but nothing more than that.

But, who knows for sure?

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I don't think Jackson molested any children. I think he is desperately trying to be the father he never had.

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Yeah same here.

I hope he isn't found guilty.

Virtually everything I've heard regarding the case has been rumor and media hype, so keep in mind I'm forming my opinions on very little solid information. If I'm wrong about something, point me to a reliable article or web site, and I'll revise my opinion accordingly.

~ I could buy one or two gold-diggers faking the whole scandal for money and possibly to ruin his reputation. But when he's been repeatedly accused over the years, one has to wonder if there isn't something more to it than dishonest people filing bogus lawsuits. I don't have enough info to lean one way or the other in terms of whether I think he's guilty or not, but the repeated accusations are suggestive.

~ The whole changing his skin color thing was just plain bizarre, and I consider it proof that he has issues (though not necessarily sex-related). If the jurors think about it much, he probably will be found insane. :rolleyes2

~ Never really cared about his music career, since I don't like that style of music. I can stand to listen to it, but I find no enjoyment. :confused:

~ The "reverse class action" suit against America is bull. He's using his celebrity clout to get away with that--if any of us suggested that sort of thing, we'd be laughed out of the courthouse. :mad: As others have said, you don't see normal people with his type of past trying to sue America. Get over it, Mr. Jackson, and count your blessings. All $million$ of them. :mad:

All in all--I don't know if he's guilty, but either way, he's one twisted guy. Sort of the Marilyn Manson of his genre, except Mr. Manson is better in my book. (No skin-change or possible pedophilia.) But then, I'm biased, since I'm a fan of rock. :p

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I can't say I believe one way or another concerning his guilt. I haven't seen any real evidence motivated by public or private concern that hasn't been tainted by money or other scandal.

However, I'm not going to defend his actions, his behavior or the way he has chosen to live his life. "I'm trying to find my childhood"? Please. Hundreds of thousands of children lead much worse lives. Hundreds of thousands of people have had much much more taken away from them and still became intelligent, productive members of society who don't bitch and whine about the card they were dealt. He didn't have a good father? He didn't get to "have" a childhood? There are members of this forum who grew up without one of their parents, there are probably members of this forum who have been abused. I'm expected to feel sympathetic towards him because he had a "bad" child hood, made a gazillion dollars and decided the best way to handle it was to go psycho? Spare me, there are others out there who are much more deserving of your sympathy.

Celebrities are crybabies. >:O

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That's hardly fair. Some people don't recover from things like that, because they're mentally ill. MJ isn't any more at fault for that than other people are. Some people have good childhoods, and still become mentally ill. Would you call them 'crybabies' too? Do you actually think you have a choice in the matter?

It really bothers me when people are so quick to judge celebrities just because they're celebrities.

South Park episode, need I say more?

Jackson is putting on a really bad show concerning himself, he moonwalks on his SUV, he pays buses to load up his fans and cheer for him at the Court House, and he's on a suicide watch. Seems pretty lame to me.

I dont mean to sound rude... but I honestly dont give a damn

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~ The "reverse class action" suit against America is bull. He's using his celebrity clout to get away with that--if any of us suggested that sort of thing, we'd be laughed out of the courthouse. :mad: As others have said, you don't see normal people with his type of past trying to sue America. Get over it, Mr. Jackson, and count your blessings. All $million$ of them. :mad:

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I made that up. Its not real and probably could never happen.

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That's hardly fair. Some people don't recover from things like that, because they're mentally ill. MJ isn't any more at fault for that than other people are. Some people have good childhoods, and still become mentally ill. Would you call them 'crybabies' too? Do you actually think you have a choice in the matter?

It really bothers me when people are so quick to judge celebrities just because they're celebrities.

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If he were mentally ill, don't you think he would submit to psychological evaluation? Don't you think it would be advised he submit to psychological evaluation? Has that been advised? No. I don't know why, perhaps he is mentally ill. And if he is, then I sincerely hope the criminal justice system realizes this and delivers him the help he needs.

However, a man who has deluded himself is hardly suffering from any form of illness, and from Michael Jackson's own interviews, statements and testimonies, he clearly understands the difference between right and wrong, and he clearly defends his actions. By no means do I claim to be an expert on such matters, but I've been around mental illness before, and he doesn't present himself in such a way. He presents himself as a man who does what he wants. Does he believe the things that come out of his mouth? Absolutely. Does that necessarily mean he's ill? Nope.

I'm not quick to judge him because he's a celebrity. I've been hearing about Michael Jackson and his "problems" for what, at least a decade now. I've had plenty of time in which to form a judgement on the man.

Anyone who knowingly does something morally questionable, or is suspected to have knowingly done something morally questionable based on his or her actions, behaviors and statements will have a media circus created around them. Those that feed that media circus, like I believe Michael has, deserve all the ridicule they are presented with. If they use that to play themselves out to be the victim, then yes they ARE crybabies. Honestly, I don't see how one could possibly feel Michael Jackson is a victim when he has spent his life doing things to garner attention from the masses.

I'm sorry if anyone feels I'm being unfair. I just call it as I see it. If in the end I'm wrong, I'll own up to it, but this is how I feel about it.

Michael Jackson info *added link to wikipedia*

As soon as they found out little boys were sleeping over they should have had his go to the psychiatrist. I agree with whats been said by Emerald Aeris.

Small random tidbit. I learned in Sex Ed a while back, that molestors who commit the act of molestation or rape have a good chance that they were also molested or abused. Kinda ties in with the assumption that he might've harmed those little boys who slept over.

I know for a fact that the relationship with his father was not a good one. He was definitely mistreated and is hiding something since he comes from a strict Jehovah's Witness bg.. Point taken, don't you think he might be affected.. compelled to do something completely different than the way his father treated him.. Say.. build an amusement park for kids and love kids, especially little boys, a little too much.

I saw a documentary on him recently and from what I could make of it he had a really stressful childhood. The life of a star can be glamourous.. but like a falling star some stars are bound to inevitably crash and burn. It's not unordinary for stars to break the law and/or have psychological damage.

Yeah they think they have the power to do such things and get away with it. But if we try examining stars such as Michael Jackson, they're pretty powerless.. Money can buy them only so much. The intangible, materialistic things that keep them preoccupied from the mess they got themselves into. They don't have privacy, the media controls them and they have to sacrifice not being able to do a lot of normal things that ordinary people do. I believe Michael Jackson is a kind soul, who has a personally tortured psyche.

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I made that up. Its not real and probably could never happen.

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You made up the lawsuit? Curse you for deceiving me! :p I'm going to sue you now!

But then, that's what I get for trying to make intelligent posts late at night when I'm sleepy. :( :mad: Good one.

Don't worry. You covered your ass. You said you don't know what is true and isn't, and my article was written like an article of sorts...to some extent at least. I don't know.

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He was definitely mistreated and is hiding something since he comes from a strict Jehovah's Witness bg.

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I've heard that many times, and for me, it defies belief. I was brought up in that faith, and my Parents weren't strict. Also, 99% of the families I know are not strict. We simply provide guidelines for our children to follow, and then it's up to them whether or not to take the advice.

There's definitely more to the situation concerning Michael's parents, as opposed to placing some of the blame on their religion. If Mr. Jackson Snr followed the Bible's guidelines properly, he wouldn't have brought Michael up the way he did.

'Tis a shame, but you get fanatics in every religion.

Thanks. *leaves*

I don't know who needs more thearpy, him or those poor children. Many child stars end up messed up; they didn't have a proper childhood. Micheal just takes it overboard. Part of it is his Dad's fault though.

What was it last time? A $20,000,000 settlement the last time someone sued him for molesting their child. I don't know about you, but that's sounds like hush-hush money. Usually you only make settlements when you know you can't win the case, which, more often than not, means you're guilty.

Why the crap would any parent let their children be around Jackson, let alone stay at his house, after such accusations have been made? That leads me to believe that the parents were just looking for some easy money. That doesn't necessarily mean that Jackson is innocent, it just means that the parents are freakin' idiots.

Whether or not Jackson is guilty, he needs some serious help.

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That doesn't necessarily mean that Jackson is innocent, it just means that the parents are freakin' idiots.

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Nah they obvoiusly think the money is worth whatever jackson does in his house...greedy is more like it =/

I found this to be very amusing, and more than a bit scary:

http://www.eonline.com/News/Specials/Jackson/

Take care all.

MJN SEIFER, if you really are a Michael Jackson fan, then maybe you should consider removing your JACKO: LITTLE HAMPSTERS, BIG ADVENTURES signature...cause it really don't suits you.

As for my opinion...well, frankly I don't care. I mean, his story is kinda sad and all, but I am not his fan (used to listen to him when I was 11, actually I have all his albums because I used to like him) and well...why do people need to be so nosey? Why so many press and so much crap? I mean, I can understand it from his fans, but should the rest really care? It looks like the whole morbid sensationalistic press I can't stand. It's just another pedophile trial, only this time he happens to be famous. Is his crime - if he is guilty, and I doubt that anyway, but thats just my opinion - worse than the one made by another pedophile? No, it's just the same action. Then why do people care so much? Cause he's a celebrity.

Well, frankly, Michaels Jackson's personal life is something I don't know why the general public should care about.

warrant out for his arrest, jackson turned up way too late for court, he's going to jail.

No, the judge gave him a grace period. He's not going to jail after all.

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MJN SEIFER, if you really are a Michael Jackson fan, then maybe you should consider removing your JACKO: LITTLE HAMPSTERS, BIG ADVENTURES signature...cause it really don't suits you.

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What?

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What?

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You have this in your sig:
http://img6.exs.cx/img6/7766/JacKo1.jpg

It reads "Small hampsters, big adventures".

It suits me perfectly!

It's repereanting the 2 things that are very important to me.

Either way , he's going to emerge from that case and find himself financially ruined.

NOT EVEN :mad2: micheal jackson would NEVER molest anyone :mad2: those people are just gold diggers and are after his money. there's a show that reanacts (sorry for my spelling) the real trial. And by the looks at it the actors that are subposed to be the victims are straight up LYING !!!

The underlying problem is that even if MJ did not abuse any of these kids, he was still having slumber parties and the like with them, which in my opinion is not something a middle aged man should be doing in any event.

Take care all.

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The underlying problem is that even if MJ did not abuse any of these kids, he was still having slumber parties and the like with them, which in my opinion is not something a middle aged man should NOT be doing in any event.

Take care all.

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Anyways the accusers are falling apart on the stand right now. Unless the state has some mad evidence against MJ they will lose big time. Right now it just seems like they are a bunch of liars and we have not even gotten to all the celeberties that MJ has for his defense from other who have tried to be swindeled by these people.

So, you think he should have slumber parties with kids? There's now a double negative.

Take care all.

I re-read your quote so many times and I still get confused when reading it ;_;

I am probably missing some word in the sentence that means what you want it to and it is just not clicking in my head. It is just going to be one of those things I will forever be going "I don't get it." *has accepted his fate*

he was still having slumber parties and the like with them, which in my opinion is not something a middle aged man should NOT be doing in any event.

Take out the NOT and it makes sense. You're saying that a middle aged man should be having slumber parties and the like with the children. You're missing the first not in the sentence. :)

Thanks for clearing that up Leeza!

It's no real problem anyway Ed. I think, we both agree with each other, but we just got very confused.

Take care all.

In other awesome court news Scott Peterson gets the "Death" Penalty. I say "Death" because CA only executes one a year. This makes it so that he may never be executed. He will most likely die before that day ever comes.

Also it seems as though Robert Blake has been acquitted of all murder and one count of solicitation. Last I read they are deadlocked on the second solicitation charge.

Why didn't E! have a reenactment of those cases?

Take care all.

Because no one really cares about Blake anymore and same with Peterson?

Touche`! Though, Nick Nolte, drunk Nick Nolte that is, could have played Blake in my opinion.

Take care all.

James Brown was in prison for seven years on drug and dangerous driving offences.Bet he didn't " feel good " when he found himself behind bars ;)

IMHO there is NOTHING wrong with an adult having slumber parties with children (Although technically speaking it's not a slumberparty - as girls AND boys are there)

I dont think he did it.. i was molested as a child and the way this boy acts about it.. its just pretty obvious hes fakin it. HE probably got hella drugged up and had sex with one of the other boys there and the only explanation he can think of is he was "molested" .. the kid is obviously gay too !

Everyone reacts to molestation differently. No one had any idea I was molested, and I still act like it's no big deal, make jokes about it and so on.

I'm not saying whether I believe the accuser or not, but I dont think it's fair to say he's lying because he isnt 'acting the right way'.

*sigh* there obviously is no right reaction but his current reaction isnt even close..

not to mention i dont think Jackson would be stupid enuf to molest another kid...! You would literally have to be the stupidest person on the planet... >.< Especially when ur in the public eyes like Jackson.

its crap Jacko did do it a few times but not that many times he maybe ugly but he should have common sense to know what hes doing is wrong and he is losing money and fame for it

Says who? Says you? There's no 'right' or 'wrong' way. Everyone deals with and copes with things in a different way. Some in ways others cant even comprehend. So dont judge him because you dont think it's the right reaction.

Not to mention the circumstances for him are very different, considering his health and the various goings-on in his life.

I'm not saying whether it happened or not, but I dont think it's fair to judge him because his reaction isnt 'right'.

its quite likely hes done it a few times by few i mean 5 or less Jacko has common sense i think so he knows he should stop and getting accused by fakers and liars aint doing good evetually all Jacko+molestation accusations will be ignored coz of the hi ammounts

I'm not arguing with anyone whether he did it or not. It's a ridiculous argument, because the only people that know the truth of that are Jackson and the people he has/hasnt molested. No amount of logic or reasoning on our part can figure out whether he did or he didnt, especially with all the very strong bias' running around in this thread.

the judges have to snap into reality and see that theres too many molestation cases for them to be true

Not neccesarily. It's like saying "There's too many murders this guy has been accused of, they cant be true." Do you know the statistics of child molestation? How many one person can molest?

Yes, given Jackon's fame and fortune and his nature to be around children, it leaves it open for him to be falsley accused. But they cant write off every instance as an attempt at exploitation. That's what the trial is for, to deem if the accuser is telling the truth or not/

good point

I don't think he did anything. I got into this thread a little late but I personally feel that these "sleepovers" Jackson had with these kids are an attempt by Jackson to correct his own childhood. He had a very bad childhood, and his father was not very "nice" to him. I think that by treating children very nicely he is trying to be the father that he never had.

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I'm not arguing with anyone whether he did it or not. It's a ridiculous argument, because the only people that know the truth of that are Jackson and the people he has/hasnt molested. No amount of logic or reasoning on our part can figure out whether he did or he didnt, especially with all the very strong bias' running around in this thread.

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you can tell.. otherwise a jury or judge wouldnt be hired... dur! people can tell if people lie.. or in our system are supposed to. and ur right there is not "right" or "wrong" way but i believe that this kid is lying because the way hes acting, i dont think having cancer will change the way you react to someone who raped you... i think hed atleast cry a bit more WOULDNT U, instead he sits there and is trying to make a case, to me thats what i look like when i lie, so i think hes lying.

I dont think Jackson actually ever molested a kid, just ask mucculey culkin ;)

On our part, genius. We havent gotten the same info as the jury or judges has. We havent sat and watched the trial. We havent been privy to all the evidence. We are not in the court room.

Would I? No, I wouldnt. I have never cried in front of anyone concerning my molestation, even while talking about it. That's how I deal with things. I very rarely cry in front of others, and usually only over sad movies and the like. No one has ever or will ever see me cry as I speak about being molested, even if the man who did it was right there in the room.

well maybe UR not watching the trial but i am... :P

and its sad you wont cry.. *pat* but being put on a stage thingy where u have to tell people what happened and stuff.. thats definitely CRY worthy

not trying to say ur wrong... but ive been keepin up on this stuff and the kid just isnt coming across to ME as honest. His whole family's testimonies have been kinda shaky.

How can you watch it though? I thought there were no cameras allowed in the courtroom?

Now again, I'm not denying he's lying or whatever. I think any parents who let their child stay at the home of an accused child molester are stupid and potentially money-mongers, but again, I dont think his reactions are a 100% clue. There's a lot of heavy bias in this thread, because it's hard to imagine someone people like and admire to possibly be a child molester.

Why would Micheal Jackson still molest children, even though it's highly probable he'd be caught? Simple--because he's not right in the head. The boy's about three kegs short of a party.

Seriously, folks--he's bleached his skin, had so much of his nose shaved off that apparently doctors have to take chunks of cartilage out of his ears and stick 'em elsewhere in his face, and what's with the face-masks?

By all means, an addiction to plastic surgery does not make the man a child molestor, but the outward actions he has show over the past years make it very clear that Mikey has issues.

As for the kids, it's obvious, and has been for some time, that he was doing it, and nobody except a few die-hard fans were fooled by the buy-off last time someone stepped forward.

Moreover, he either very much believes that the world revolves around him, or he's made a lot of effort to make it seem that way. Showing up for court in his pajamas? Seriously, folks, how much further in contempt of court can you be than to show up for your own trial with no frickin' pants on?!

What truly pisses me off, though, is the parents. Who the hell would actually send their kid for a sleepover with this man? It doesn't take much intelligence to look at a man who's obviously engaged in professional self-mutilation and decide that leaving your children alone in a dark room with this fellow is probably not in their best interests....

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Same here

I believe he's guilty. There are too many cases for them all to be false, he's got means and opportunity, and nobody knows his sexual preference. Hell, was his marriage to Lisa Marie ever consumated? Plus, with the evidence these kids are presenting, the stuff found in his house, and the past out-of-court settlements ("I'll give you so many million dollars to drop this case"), it's at least worth a damn hard look.