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Does anyone besides me wonder How the hell Seifer got the job of "Diciplinary"? I mean did tey know who he was when he got this title?
"Hey Cid! This is Seifer - he's one of our worst students and he's a very uncontrolable - We're thinking of putting him incharge of Dicipline! Good Idea huh?"
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I guess it was just an unpopular job in general except for power hungry bullies.
I kind of figured it was more of a negative nickname term than an actual title. Kinda like, those three are always being disciplined for something- in school the druggie click weren't in CHARGE of the drugs- they were just in trouble because of them. We never hear *any* reference of it outside of that once.
I dunno, that's something I'd want to ask someone who knows the game in the original language- bad translations are a ROYAL pain in the older FF games- there were some gems in Chrono Trigger and Legend of Dragoon as well. I've gotten used to just going by 'instinct' and not immediately trusting the writting.
I thought it was a self-proclaimed title in that they "volunteered" to keep the younger students in line and make sure they follow the rules "or else." I see it as an upperclassmen type thing - like seniors making sure the freshmen stay in line. That kind of thing happens all the time, and usually the seniors who bug freshmen the most are the ones who aren't well behaved themselves.
Seifer's a strong leader with a commanding presence; he's probably a good student too - just very erratic in battle situations. A good choice for leader of the disciplinary committee, but not as a precise and dependable soldier.
i thought that seifer had made the job up for himself and Co.
Well, Seifer is just a big Pain in the a** most of the time. But if you watch him carefully, he sees Squall as his rival, and respects him for what he is. However, he always loved to fight for a certain goal (eg. Rinoa), i guess he just loves the idea of Instant Respect he gets from his postition. Even if he was an idiot most of the game, notice how he keeps beliving in his dream (to be the Sorceresses Knight), even though he failed repeatedlly. Anyway, alongside Squall, he was the best gunblade specialist in the Garden, so i guess that's one of the reasons he was in the comitee.
he was the *only* gunblade specialist in garden apart from squall.
and wasn't he somewhat possessed to be a sorceress' knight?
he got that job cause all seifer knows is fighting and he hardly passes any of the tests so the school gave him something to do basically
This is pretty much what I thought of it. Even if Cid seemed to have a soft spot for Seifer, I don't think he would give him this kind of authority or position among the other students.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShivaBlizzard8
Just Seifer being egotistical, I thought.
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Originally Posted by ShivaBlizzard8
I agree with Shiva. Though I might think that since no one want to have a job as diciplinary committee like the garden festival thing, Seifer voluntarily took the position.
You don´t understand?I understand pretty well.Headmaster Cid wannas Seifer to be in the Commitée BECAUSE HE IS VERY PROBLEMATIC.Seems ilogical?You will understand it some day.
Why wait if we can get you to explain it to us?
there are things I can´t explain because they are too farfetched to be understand.Much more far fetched than my usual theories.
An example of this is:this reply,the person who possess Ultimecia/Edea,the meaning of WOTC(well organized time compression),the Seed family theory(I had already explained that),etc....
I know many didn´t agree with most of my less farfetched theories,so of course i will not post the most farfetched.I just use the less to give hints to the most.
I think Seifer got the job cause Cid wanted to give him some responsibility.
Then he might have stooped being a bully and instead started to live up to the rules of Balamb and grow up. And lets face it, Seifer isn't all bad, he's just damn stubborn and egoistic but still he got some potential.
Personally I dont understand what Seifer is doing NOT (SPOILER)in a disciplinary cell or something at the end of the game, I mean come on! He's just tryed to destroy the world with Ultemecia and then everyones like "Oh no thats cool now, you can go fish with your mates" Like hell! he should be banged up at the end! :D
Not even _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ deserves to be bangled at the end of the game although this person is worst than Seifer.
If something is too far fetched to be understood, it probably isn't true.
Wha...? I meant that I didn't understand why Cid would give Seifer any authority over other students if he already had a problem with being a bully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
If a little kid at school is beating up, bossing around and intimidating other kids, how would it help solve any problems if you basically make it his JOB to do those things? (Well, except for the beating up part. But hey, you never know... :D)
I just don't think that it is an effective way to deal with his problem. He has too big of an ego, so give him something that will cut it down a little, not inflate it.
It is an effective way if you have someone watching the disciplinary committee. Holding Seifer to a responsibility could theoretically help him mature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Camanche
Note that I am not commenting as to my thoughts on the matter of the disciplinary committee itself, I'm just pointing out a way that giving Seifer the position could improve his behavior, much more than doing something to "cut him down" would, since he would just rebel and get even worse if you did. Feed his ego. "Seifer, you're such an outstanding student that you're put in charge of the disciplinary committee..." That has a better chance of getting him to improve, since it would appeal to his vanity and make him try to do well to prove that he was right for the job and that he should be trusted with more such responsibilities, etc...
Hmmm... I see how that could work. But to me, the Disciplinary Committee seems to be unmonitored. I guess it would depend on the individual situation. In a military situation though, I don't think this would work very well, but considering how inside of Balamb Garden, the atmosphere isn't extremely military-like, and more school-like, it's easy to see how it could apply.
But also, when I look at how Seifer acts as the leader of the DC, and then look at how he acts as leader of a squad, it seems his position was detrimental to his leadership abilities and didn't really give him a chance to develop them. (Putting two people who listen to his every whim with little question, under his commmand, doesn't exactly help him develop responsibility or let him learn anything about leading people. It just let's him enjoy bossing other's around, friends or not. He doesn't get to learn how to earn the respect of his subordinates.)
I really do see your point at giving him a responsibilty, I just think how the responsibility ended up playing out for him didn't help him as much in the end. He'd get too used to doing whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted, leaving him with little regard for what is necessary for him to get the job done. So instead he would act on impulse all the time.
After reading this thread (and a few others) though, I'm starting to see Seifer in a different light. He seemes like a very human character, even when compared to the likes of Squall, and all the other characters. Sure, he's a bit of a hot-head and a bully, but he's not one-dimensional or ever entirely evil either. I used to think not much of him as a character, but he seems to have a true depth if one looks.
I imagine that the disciplinary comitee is much like a school club. I would imagine that anyone could join the comitee. Seifer probably just made his way to the top of the ranks.