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So , North Korea admitted to having a nuclear weapons program earlier last week ...How is the Bush Adminstration's top brass going to respond to this when they're ( presumably ) considering engaging Iran over her nuclear weapons programme ? And especially within months of the G8 summit , the BA obviously has a lot to handle ...
Any thoughts on this new development ?
Well, North Korea said long ago that it'd develop nuclear weapons if it was threatened by foreign superpowers such as the US. For quite some time, Bush has been saying, "Do what we say or we'll invade YOUR country next", so this development can hardly be seen as a surprise - or as unprovoked.
The widespread development of nuclear weapons is a frightening possibility, but not nearly as frightening as a world where only the US has a nuclear arsenal.
True - who are the US to say only THEY should have nukes ? That would mean total military supremacy over the world. It's totally ridiculous , considering that out of the 12 powers that are known to have nukes , only 5 of them are bound by the START1 and START2 treaties - thank the Lord for the UN or it'd be WW3.
It's an alarming thing. Particularly since I'm situated in a much higher risk zone from an attack from Korea than either of you guys. But, the population isn't so dense up here, and the most they could hope for on a strike here would be the obliteration of about 250,000 civilians and 2 fairly large... military.. uh, bases. OK, so perhaps it's not such a bad idea to strike here after all. Our ready squadrons could easily retaliate directly against N. Korea so perhaps they could view us as a threat.
yeah and you know that whole missle defense base thing they've been developing up here? yeah. a bust. though, to be fair, it's extremely difficult to hit an ICBM which is only about 6 feet in diameter (I think) and travels at about mach 4. Especially head on with another missle that travels at mach 6. tricky tricky. But still, it's a bust. Reagan's advisors had some pretty good ideas with satelite based infrared weapons. But, they're too vulnerable. Russia blew one up very easily.
the US is still the sole remaining superpower, but china's catching up pretty fast. I think perhaps the superpower status of the US might have spurred on the joining of forces of most of the Eurpoean countries. I mean, one country in and of themselves can't challenge us, but a whole buncha them together?
Yeah the UN owns NOT be ause im an ignorant bastard.Or i wish i was a ignorant bastard lol.I'm scared WW3 will happen lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsunari 2000
I doubt the UN can do so much. Considering they did invade Iraq despite their sayings of dont do it..-_-
My entire thoughts on the topic is.....US has nukes too..whats your point?
The fact that Nort Korea has nukes means that the United States will probably not invade North Korea now. The only way to beat a country with nukes is to use nukes against them. No one is going to stand for that. I know that I, for one, will not.
Dear lord I hope they don't go to war with North Korea. If they wanted to they could probably Nuke Seattle, I think we're close enough for them to fire one off at us.
Well the USA has 3000+ nukes, enough to destroy the whole world 300+ times. Also, in the next 10 years or so planning to cut down to 1700+. The U.S. doesnt even have the power to even produce a nuke, the only nuclear superpower too (that doesnt include bunker buster bombs).Source was from Channel One, a news station that comes on in the mornings in Highschool, here.
If North Korea ever launched a Nuke at the U.S. or any other country with a nuke, I predict nuclear war. Maybe another Cold War is going to happen. I mean I dont see why North Korea would even use them, but in the first place if it does happen, it will be another World War...
That damn program is so biased, its not very reliable to get your information from them. If you get it from USA today or CNN, i might believe you.Quote:
Source was from Channel One, a news station that comes on in the mornings in Highschool, here.
North Korea main concern is hoping to become noticed it todays world, not so much as to causing nuclear war, as most people think. They have constantly said that they will launch nuclear weapons, they say they have nuclear weapons, and even if the was a concern for nations, dont you think they would retaliate a little better than sending a few diplomates to take care of the problem? Its more about getting noticed that having an actual nuclear holocaust on our hands.Quote:
If North Korea ever launched a Nuke at the U.S. or any other country with a nuke, I predict nuclear war. Maybe another Cold War is going to happen. I mean I dont see why North Korea would even use them, but in the first place if it does happen, it will be another World War...
I heard a quote, one of you guys might have it in your sigs, something like:
World War III will use all nuclear weapons in the world,
World War IV will use sticks and stones
Eh what would getting noticed do anyway? I mean doesnt that make you a bigger target? -_-;
nukes = big club. bigger club = able to demand more beneficial trade agreements = more money. more money = top government officials happy, poor folks on the bottom still starving to death.
N. Korea's leadership likes to bill the country as Paradise on Earth. They try very hard to keep the starving masses quiet and outta the news.
Eh so what? They want economical trade, so we dont give it to them just because they are communist...? From what i studied, we also try to clean sweep the homeless here quite often as well...
EDIT: Can think of only one reason why US doesnt wanna trade...to make N Korea stronger. And they use the communist thing to say they wont. From what i see N Korea should threaten, i mean they are just looking out for their own country then. Just like how US wanted to bomb the Middle East.
North Korea will be safe from US aggression unless they become Islamic. Despite protestations to the contrary by US officials, I'm fairly sure that the US is indeed waging a war on Islam. Afghanistan, Iraq - I'll wager Iran is next, or perhaps Syria. We won't mess with Russia or North Korea. We won't target the Latin American terrorist organizations. We'll leave most of Africa alone as well. I don't think Bush's use of the word "Crusade" in his State of the Union last term was the accident or coincidence that it was made out to be. Look out Constantinople, Bush is coming, and God is with him. Deus Lo Volt!!
I really just wish North korea and South korea would become one again
I just want to go there sometime when its safe and everything isn't chaotic.
North Korea will not directly attack the US with nuclear weapons. If they did, the huge distance across the Pacific Ocean would provide plenty of time to detect an ICBM and shoot it out of the sky.
What they could do, however, is attack our lesser defended allies or assets, like South Korea, or maybe the Aleutian Islands.
However, I have complete faith that if North Korea uses nuclear weapons, that the US will not retaliate with our own nukes.
we knew they were lying when they said that it was just for power purposes. yeah, boy are we smart, iran who seems to be doing nothing, and NK, who has something, admits to it, and is the country we can turn into a parkinglot the easiest. ok anyone with bush in their name never gets my vote again...
uhm, pardon for pointing out the obvious, but an ICBM would go over or near the Pole, not across the ocean. Much shorter distance for the missle to travel. That's why they've been building the missle defense sites here in Alaska; in the hopes that they can hit a missle going mach 2 with another missle going mach 5. rather a silly idea but the best that's there at present.
I doubt that they would be stupid enough to use it with The self proclaimed "Shariff of the World" in office.
Yeah thats the thing, would they, tiny N Korea REALLY launch nukes? The chances of them doing that is like...sooooo slim. =/ As someone said they wanted attention for trade so that they can operate their trade routes and boost their economy to be a better country. Of course USA will not let a communist labeled country to do that and instead point terrorism which in fact NKorea is RIGHT(yes right) to threaten in order to get their message accross. No one else is going to listen otherwise, this is a smart move on their part to get trade in which they need to boost their economy. After all, didnt the USA wreck havoc there in the Korean War and seperated both of them in the first place to weaken Korea as a whole?? >_>
Exactly my point. NK doesn't have the gonads to launch a nuke at us, and even if they did, it would get shot down rather quickly. That's why they'll use it on SK if they ever do feel like bringing the fury of the majority of the world upon them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeBlayde
actually, all the tests they've run so far have failed.
I'm not exactly sure how big an ICBM is, but let's for point of argument say it's about 2 meters in diameter and about 10 meters long. I'm fairly sure they travel at about Mach 2 or 3. The interceptor missles they're using to combat them are much smaller and travel at about Mach 5.
The difficulty arises in trying to hit a 2 meter space head on at a speed of about Mach 10 from 300 miles away. They're just using the physics of 2 objects traveling that fast to obliterate each other as opposed to creating a big explosion to destroy the ICBM in the rather slim chance the explosion sets off the warhead.
It's just too fast, too far and too small a target.
EasyQuote:
Originally Posted by Itsunari 2000
"YELLOW FAGS US AT THE US GOVERMRBRMENT MAKE UP ANOTHER STUPID EXCUSE TO GO AND BLOW YOU UP WITH A NUKE. OH AND JAPAND AND SK CAN GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Like always. Like with vietnam, Iraq and afganistan.