EOFF Iraqi Correspondant

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02-25-2005, 02:38 PM
theundeadhero

EOFF Iraqi Correspondant

While I'm here overseas, I figure I might as well keep you as well informed with unconfidential information as I can.

The terrorists are targeting children to spreads fear in Iraqi people wishing to support the US. Any children seen talking to US troops, accepting food, bottles of water, anything at all, are being killed. If your anything like me than hearing this infuriates you.

Also along the lines of killing, the Iraqi who wish to help as police or Army National Gaurd are going to extremes to make sure they aren't recognized. These people are competely covering themselves with cloth, ski masks, anyhting they can so they can't be recognized. They fear that if the terrorists find out who they are than their families will be killed.

Other than that all I hear for now is the same everyday stuff like, a mortar hit in our camp here, an ambush was set up there, IED's in spots normally clean. It's still deadly over here.
02-25-2005, 04:44 PM
Azure Chrysanthemum

What factions predominantly support the terrorists? I've been somewhat confused by the whole Sunni/Shiite issue.
02-25-2005, 07:16 PM
Little Miss Awesome

I think killing any child is horrible- evil even.
And people living every day of their lives afraid must be awful- I hope they all remain safe.
By the way, Good Luck out there and be very careful, none of us want you getting hurt or anything!
God bless!
X :love: X
02-25-2005, 07:31 PM
Squall04

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Originally Posted by Behold the Void

What factions predominantly support the terrorists? I've been somewhat confused by the whole Sunni/Shiite issue.

1) The terrorists aren't like one organization that is supported by one faction or another. They are a bunch of militant groups scattered across mostly middle Iraq (not North or South).
2) The names "Sunni" and "Shi'ite" are not exactly political or militant factions. They're more like denominations of Islam. Saddam Hussein was of the Sunni sect and thus prosecuted the Shi'ites.
The blood feud between the two sects of Islam stems from a disagreement over who should become the next Caliph (leader of Islam). Since Muhammed had left no one to take his place, it was uncertain who should become the leader. The procession of power flowed without war or bloodshed until it got to Ali. When Ali assumed the Caliphate, the general cousin of the previous caliph refused to recognize him as the caliph and tried to claim it himself. He and his followers became the Sunni, and Ali and his followers became the Shi'ite. The constant bloodshed came about because Ali and his son were murdered by the Sunni.

So, Sunni/Shi'ite = religious sect (not political party).
Terrorist = bad guys usually in small groups that aren't exactly working together or sponsored by a certain "faction."

It's like a bunch of warring clans with different leaders that are trying to take over the country.
02-25-2005, 07:40 PM
DocFrance

Where are your troops, and may I go there and count them? [/SNL]
02-25-2005, 09:33 PM
Dking'squeen

How can they kill the children like that? They're picking off their own without no kind of remorse. Animals...vicious evil beings. Who can take the life of a child who's only trying to survive? It's ludacrous and now I'm extremely ticked off...
02-25-2005, 10:11 PM
strawberryman

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Originally Posted by Yazoo'squeen

How can they kill the children like that? They're picking off their own without no kind of remorse. Animals...vicious evil beings. Who can take the life of a child who's only trying to survive? It's ludacrous and now I'm extremely ticked off...

Cowards fight like that. But although it's sick and twisted, they have no other choice.
02-25-2005, 10:19 PM
nik0tine

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It's still deadly over here.

Which is exactly why our troops shouldn't be over there.

I can understand the "terrorists" killing U.S. troops. However, killing innocent children is crossing the line. But these bastards have been crossing the line for some time now, haven't they?
02-25-2005, 10:31 PM
Dking'squeen

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Originally Posted by Strawberry Man

Cowards fight like that. But although it's sick and twisted, they have no other choice.

There's always a choice

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Originally Posted by nik0tine

I can understand the "terrorists" killing U.S. troops. However, killing innocent children is crossing the line. But these bastards have been crossing the line for some time now, haven't they?

agreed. I mean...that line was destroyed way before they started killing children, but there's a boundary between twisted bastards who kill the poeple trying to survive and the other ones...
02-25-2005, 11:56 PM
lordblazer

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Originally Posted by theundeadhero

While I'm here overseas, I figure I might as well keep you as well informed with unconfidential information as I can.

The terrorists are targeting children to spreads fear in Iraqi people wishing to support the US. Any children seen talking to US troops, accepting food, bottles of water, anything at all, are being killed. If your anything like me than hearing this infuriates you.

Also along the lines of killing, the Iraqi who wish to help as police or Army National Gaurd are going to extremes to make sure they aren't recognized. These people are competely covering themselves with cloth, ski masks, anyhting they can so they can't be recognized. They fear that if the terrorists find out who they are than their families will be killed.

Other than that all I hear for now is the same everyday stuff like, a mortar hit in our camp here, an ambush was set up there, IED's in spots normally clean. It's still deadly over here.

Nice to hear some updates you take care and becareful out there.
02-26-2005, 12:35 AM
Shlup

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Originally Posted by nik0tine

Which is exactly why our troops shouldn't be over there.

I can understand the "terrorists" killing U.S. troops. However, killing innocent children is crossing the line. But these bastards have been crossing the line for some time now, haven't they?

So are you under the impression that the terrorists are only killing people because U.S. troops are in Iraq, or do you just not care about anyone who isn't American?

I can just see American troops tossing their guns to the kids and saying "Protect yo damn self! See ya!"
02-26-2005, 01:07 AM
Shadow Nexus

O_o

The whole killing children thing is completly screwed up. How many people do really stoop to that? It's hard for me to believe many people- even the terrorists- can do such a thing. Geez, I hate humanity, I'm getting the next train to Candyland.
02-26-2005, 01:33 AM
fire_of_avalon

It's good to hear you're well, but like everyone else said... distressing to hear about the current ways of "fighting". Stay safe, and drive more big machines to tell us about :D.
02-26-2005, 05:30 PM
DocFrance

What excatly is your job over in Iraq? How long is your deployment?

I'm currently a cadet at the Air Force Academy (beat Army!), and I've still got another year and a half before I get my commission. Who knows, I might find myself deployed soon after that. Thanks for doing what you do.
02-27-2005, 04:36 AM
Shlup

The thing that sucks about correspondense from Iraq is that he can't sit on his ass at the computer all day. :/

*waits*
02-27-2005, 05:16 AM
lordblazer

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Originally Posted by Shadow Nexus

O_o

The whole killing children thing is completly screwed up. How many people do really stoop to that? It's hard for me to believe many people- even the terrorists- can do such a thing. Geez, I hate humanity, I'm getting the next train to Candyland.

Well its been done in many wars.Vietnam war they used children to go into a US camp and use them at suicide bombers.
02-27-2005, 05:26 AM
Shlup

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Originally Posted by lordblazer

Well its been done in many wars.Vietnam war they used children to go into a US camp and use them at suicide bombers.

Well as long as it wasn't their idea I guess that makes it okay then. xD
02-28-2005, 01:57 AM
Wiegrahf42

*reads bit about killing children, faith in Humanity goes down 50pts. is now at -1596* Take care man.
02-28-2005, 06:59 AM
The Captain

War of any kind almost always brings out the worst in people, be it a just war or not.

Stay safe over there good sir and don't be afraid to report the truth of what is happening, because that is the best weapon there is in the fight against hatred.

Take care all.
02-28-2005, 07:21 AM
udsuna

Any war where the "invaders" are winning, will be horrible in ways that no one can hope to imagine. Rome poisoned the wells and salted the fields, insuring that anything they lost would be useless for decades. Ancient China had this habit of fighting to the last living person, man or woman. Japan probably would have done the same if we hadn't scared the crap out of them with our atomic weapons.
War doesn't mean horrors. War can be fought, and won or lost, without that. But when it comes to fighting for one's home and way of life, appearantly people are more than willing to sacrifice their own humanity for such things. The animal backed into a corner is the animal that fights most viciously.
02-28-2005, 10:16 AM
theundeadhero

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What factions predominantly support the terrorists? I've been somewhat confused by the whole Sunni/Shiite issue

Sunni predomintaely are the terrorists, but thats not to say everyone isn't involved.

Also a major difference, plus a reason for the split in sunni/shiite cause, is the leadership style. I don't quite remember which is which, but one believes that the leader should have absolute say in everything and the other says it should be more like a counsil. Thus making it a political split, not just religous.

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What excatly is your job over in Iraq? How long is your deployment?

I'm a heavy constuction equipment operator, which means I run bulldozers and bucket loaders and other such fun stuff. Deployment = standard 12-18 months.

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I'm currently a cadet at the Air Force Academy (beat Army!), and I've still got another year and a half before I get my commission. Who knows, I might find myself deployed soon after that.

Have fun :)

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But when it comes to fighting for one's home and way of life

Wake up! They aren't fighting for their way of life. They fight because they want political power for themselves instead of the other different sections leading them. Shiite= about 60% Sunni = about 20% Other = rest. Before the Sunni lead, even though they were a minority to the shiite, and they don't like it that their not wanted in control. They oprressed the shiite and now fight the fiercest because they know they have no hope of being in power as a minority. The shiite are the majority. They're tired of being oppressed and want to be the dominate power. The rest, mixed of many people, just want a place to stay. Mostly the Kurdish. They want a place to call home and a say in the government workings.

EDIT:I probably got Sunni/Shiite confused. I always get those mixed up as well as everyone else out here. It's kinda confusing sometimes.