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post some qs here and hopefully someone will answer them
ok in one trailer when Yazoo swipes clouds sword it falls half way to the ground therefore cloud is unarmed but he fights back with another sword he got out of no where, was his Buster sword split or what?
It was another sword strapped to the back of his left leg. I'll see if I can get you a screenshot of him drawing it forth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoden
Edit: Okay, I've got the screenshots. I'll have them posted in a few seconds.
Edit 2: Okay, here they are:
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Linkage 4.
And the Buster Sword wasn't "split" I believe you see it land somewhere in ground (perfectly standing up of course). I'll leave that to SquallofSeeD to post screen shots...lol...sorry man
Also, that isn't Yazoo he's fighting, its Kadaj. :D
Yes, his sword is cast away from him fully intact and it lands sticking in the ground:Quote:
Originally Posted by BackRoomKid
The sword flying away.
The sword sticking in the ground. Look to the right of Kadaj's hip. You can seen the hilt, haft, and upper part of the blade.
how can you people tell the difference between Yazoo and Kadaj?
Uhm, you can tell because one of them has longer hair and the other is shorter hair. I *think* it's Kadaj who has the shorter hair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoden
Loz isn't the hard one because he's the only one who actually looks like a man. :tongue:
yeah
i still cannot tell the dif between Yazoo and Kadaj
The easiest way, like Wrexsoul said, is the hair. Kadaj's hair is a good bit shorter than Yazoo's--Kadaj's hair reaches just past his chin, while Yazoo's goes well past his shoulders. Also, I think Kadaj has a rounder face, but that might just be me. Attached are some pictures so you can tell the difference. Does that help any?
i don't understand how people can NOT tell the difference between the two. They look almost nothing alike and it's starting to piss me off that people are like, "Oh they have long hair. They're the same person." and stuff like that. As like twenty people said, it's the hair that tells them apart that's the most obvious. Second, it's their eyes, but you probably won't see that. You don't even have to look hair to figure it out. And YAzoo looks a bit more feminine than Kadaj.
As for th fight with Cloud, Kadaj cuts the blade of the Buster Sword, kind of slices through it and Cloud turns around and attacks with the rest of the blade that's left, not a new one. Kadaj then flips over the attack.
i watched the trailer again after the sword lands int he ground cloud reaches into his leg and reveals a different sword
so did I, and from what it looks like to me, it looks like half of the sword goes flying off into the distance and then Cloud comes back with another attack, but you know, it doesn't matter. If he has another sword attached to him, which is nowhere to be seen in the other parts of the trailer during that scene before that part, then okay, he does. If he doesn't, then he doesn't. Sheesh. I'm just saying that only half of the buster sword goes flying and it looks like Cloud switched hands before attcking Kadaj again.
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Originally Posted by Squall of SeeD
there you go need i say more? or does someone else want to have a say?
yea, pretty obvious to tell the difference between Kadaj and Yazoo...Kadaj is the tuff one, always messing with Cloud....Yazoo(longer hair) is normally just blasting away with his gun on his bike
if you guys really saw the movie you would notice that when he gets off of his bike he puts the second smaller sword in a sheath on this leg/hip whatever. so when the buster is knocked out of his hand and stuck sideways in the side of the building he uses the smaller sword for defense and then jumps away to get the buster. the smaller sword is the one that has the revolving hilt and opens all the swords at the end of the movie.
question - does anyone have a good picture of all the swords separately or whole, let me now or post it.
for this one its simple, since Kadaj is the main villan character why the hell would he be fighting Yazoo. also we know that Yazoo and Loz are left in the Tunnel bomb explosion so they don't show up till the end. yes there is a big difference with their hair. it can be seen in the first scene with them and the old buster sword and when they are in the old Capitol recruiting the kids. and if nothing else will settle this they use different weapons. Kadaj uses the double bladed katana and Yazoo uses the gun sword. i hope this settles this issue as well.
Can someone please explain the Cloud Zack Aeris Tifa issue?
Instead of double posting, please use the edit button. -kikimm
Cloud's buster sword has 6 pieces.
i don't suppose you have a good clear picture of anyone or all of them separate or together? sorry about the 4 and the side of the building. but the rest is true
theres already a thread
what is the significance of the two IDs that Kadaj throws at Rufus in the Healin center who are they?
they're Elena and Tseng's who He thinks he killed, he shows them to blackmail Rufus.
hey fellas i found a website that has a picture of the 'second sword' the link
http://gallery.point-blank.cc/ffac/alc
http://gallery.point-blank.cc/ffac/ald
go through the pages this has screenshots from the whole movie.
so what is the significance of Elena and Tseng.
that's a piece of cloud's blade.
Elena and Tseng are Turks, Rufus leads the Turks, Kadaj proved something with the blood stained ID card and attempted to threaten Rufus into telling him where ''Mother'' was.
it may be a piece of his blade but that is the same scene posted above and i checked he has 4 swords that form his Buster Sword, they may be called different and counted different as their assembled but there are only 4. when his main sword is knocked out of his hand this is the one he uses in defense.
you never explained the Aeris Zack, Cloud Tifa issue who's hooked up and not and how and why.
6 pieces actually.
IT is a piece of a sword and we all know he uses that piece to strike back. He recieves the sword back not too long after.
i saw the 25 min of Last Order and when the hell does Cloud kill sephiroth, i thought he just jumps off the ledge.
How come I have never seen this screen in the movie I watch??Quote:
Originally Posted by maxdas
Is it outside the church? I mean the screen you guys are talking about Cloud pull out the sword from nowhere
this scene takes place right after the church when he meets up with kadaj and kadaj is talking about meeting his "mother" and then they fight well as soon as they fight this scene takes place.
Oh well, I have bad eyes, since I still cant find that screen...Quote:
Originally Posted by maxdas
go to the movie and go back from the end of the last scene with the pictures and go back 29 mins and 8 seconds that is where the scene is... best way to find it...
I got a question, why does Kadaj start screaming when he was in the church holding Jenova?
this shot is not in the movie, the sword shown in this is not the new Buster that Cloud uses... if you look closely at the first pick you can see the 2 black holes the new one doesn't have those on the back side of it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoden
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Originally Posted by SnoopyG
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Originally Posted by http://xthost.info/ffwebnovel/
No need to explain anything now, see how you revived a thread that was dead 7 months ago? Yeah, that's when the movie wasn't released.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxdas
what is the importance of Tifa's gloves, i read somewhere that they are special, How? and Why?
they're just leather gloves to add power to her punches.
My question is: what is REALLY going on at the beginning, when we see Reno in the helicopter and we hear Elena screaming? I still haven't figured out the dynamics of the scene completely.
i have to add to that question. in the beginning they say 490 years ago before and after reno goes to the crater so how the hell does that work and who the hell is elena.
I think thats the date. I'm not sure, because I can't read the Kanji after it.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxdas
Elena is one of the Turks. In FFVII, (SPOILER)she was called in as a replacement for Reno when Cloud, Barret and Tifa kicked his ass.
the beginning says 498 years ago, not 490
If you remember in FFVII ending after the credis, it says "500 years later" and then you see Red XIII with his three small kids running
Now, AC, as to throw in an easter egg for the fans. They began the movie like the way FFVII ended, but since AC's events are two years after the ACTUAL events in FFVII, the movie says "498 years before"
FFVII + Two years = Advent Children
Red XIII in 500 years - Two years = Advent Children
Where did the Kadaj Gang come from?
they are tryin to get Jenova out of the northern crater, and Kadaj and his gang come along and attack them, thats why elena is screaming i guess... i am assuming that elena and tseng get captured, and that would explain the later scene with Kadaj and their ID cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoShiatar
have you played the game? these questions are pretty easy to answer if you have played the game, esp the elena one, as she has a notable role in it... if not, play the game!! it will make the movie so much more enjoyable.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxdas
and understandable
I know this thread has moved on now but I'm gonna post some pics of the swords as people were asking several questions regarding the look of the swords and how they combine.
Heres a bitmap image of the swords:
SwordCombinations (If that doesnt work then use this link. Scroll down to see the white bitmap image:)
http://www.ff7acmovie.com/articles/ff7ac_reviews_and_analyses/cloud's_6_piece_sword_in_ff7ac.html
First sword (the base sword) expanded: (Dont mind the arrows!)
BaseSwordExpanded
BaseSwordExpanded
Second sword (a bit hard to see/sword in first link is on the right):
SecondSword
SecondSword
Third and Fourth swords (two of the same kind go on each side of the base sword):
Third&FourthSwords
Fifth and Sixth swords (same rule applies here):
Fifth&SixthSwords
Can someone tell me if moogles actually appear in FF7?
The first time i saw them was in 9.
yes... in ff7 a moogle/mog is seen riding a chocobo whenever you execute the choco/mog summon, also Cait Sith is riding a giant moogle/mog (dont really know the difference)... in AC the moogle is seen as a doll, that a girl is holding...
there is also a moogle in a mini game.
Hee hee! Question time! Actually, I only have one...
When Vincent saves Cloud, and Marlene finds them, she turns to Vincent and asks him if he has 'it'. He then holds out his cloak and lets it drop, and she exclaims 'unbelievable'. Why? I mean, I know she hides under it later, when she argues with Cloud, but why is Vincent's cloak (If that's what she's referring to) so important to her? And why would she think he doesn't have it?
Yeah, that was a really badly-phrased question, but it's the only thing that's been bugging me, apart from when the camera shakes earlier on in that scene, when Vincent grabs Clouds Geostigma'd arm, but I worked that one out for myself. :D *Gasps of disbelief*
she ask cloud for a cellphone cause she wants to talk to tifa, then they realized cloud dropped his cell in the fight agaisnt kadaj/yazoo/loz then she ask vincent if he has it (another cell) he show marlene he doesnt that`s why she said unveleilable
umm no, vincent does tht to show her his ribbon of aeris, marlene didnt kno vincent was part of the crew
Self explanetory:
but hello she went to him bcuz he was part of the crew and she knew he wasnt going to hurt him so yea
Huh? No, what happens is this: She asks him if he has a phone, he shows his cloak which is empty, and the she says something along the lines of "unbelievable" (depending on which fansub you are watching) as if to say "get with the times Vincent". Marlene runs to Vincent because Marlene is unhappy that Cloud 'never listens'. Marlene already knows that Vincent is part of the crew before this.
Here are thumbnails:
but marlene didnt kno vincent is part of the crew so thtz y she goes unbeviable
Here is a script from http://www.ff7acmovie.com/articles/f...ript_en_3.html
several other script websites will say the same thing:
Cloud: "Marlene!"
Marlene: "Cloud! Denzel and Tifa, they...!"
Cloud: "Tifa is safe."
Marlene: "I want to talk to Tifa!"
Cloud search for his phone but isn't there... he dropped it and fell in the water during the battle with Kadaj...
Marlene looks at Vincent
Marlene: "Do you have one?"
Vincent show that he don't have anything.
Marlene: "I can't believe it!"
Cloud: "Vincent, can you take Marlene home?
I'm going to go talk to Rufus about this."
Vincent: "I can't approve."
Cloud: "But!..."
Marlene gets angry...cause Cloud is trying to run away or ignore his friends and do things his own way or something like that...
Marlene: "I don't like you anymore, Cloud!
Why won't you listen to what we're saying?!"
She then ran to Vincent instead...hehe
Cloud: "Marlene...
Just wait a little longer...A battle is starting.
it's going to be dangerous.
You understand, right?"
Malene: "I don't understand!"
There I hope thats settled. Im sorry for anyone who is bored of this debate at the moment, but I wanted to show what was really going on in such an obviously extremely important and symbollic part of the film (sarcasm).
Thanks for clearing that up! ^__^ The subs on mine weren't very clear, 'cos all Marlene said was 'Do you have it', and I was like WTF? Tee-hee, then again, I'm quite dumb sometimes...:D Anyways, thankles! :love:
I have a question... Why did Tifa cut her hair short? I mean in the game, her hair is like knee long but in the movie, it's shorter. Did her hair bother her? I know it's a stupid question but can anyone give their opinion on this? :confused:
Oh and um regarding Cait Sith, where's the giant stuffed mog he 'magically' brought to life? And in the end of the movie, Marlene is holding him like a doll. Is he a doll? :confused:
Tifa didnt cut her hair, the character designers did. Shes not a real person. So it has nothing to do with it getting in her way. I'm guessing the designers shortened it so it doesn't look too much like a game/manga style. They did the same with all pretty much all the other characters. Sephiroth still has two big lumps of hair sticking up, but it doesnt stick up as much, thankfully. Otherwise everyone would look like they use 3 tubes of hair gel in the morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seikon-Shoukougun
I'm guessing they left the giant moogle out because it would look stupid. Cait Sith himself already looks quite out of place. At the beginning of the movie theres also a different girl holding a moogle doll. Theres no reason for it to be THE MOOGLE of cait sith, its just a doll.
I hope that helped in a strange and weird way.
I found this pics... Tell me what you see...
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Q. Any easter eggs?
A. Watch closely and you'll notice the following. Some of them shows you how much attention has been put into the movie's detail.
0:05:31
An ad for "Loveless, Open 5/25 18:00". Loveless is a popular Irish-British quartet back in 1984. Looks like there are some fans in Squarenix!
0:05:55
Ad for Reeve's W.R.O (World Restoration Organisation) and the "New Honey Bee House".
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Another Loveless ad.
0:07:21
Next to the "family" photo of Cloud, Tifa, Denzel and Marlene, there's a can of Amino-D. Amino-D is a drug used to help patients who are chemically injured or who have a chronic disease.
0:23:55
Where did Tifa's gloves go?
0:28:48
Drawings of Cloud and Tifa. By Marlene?
0:44:46
The sign next to Tifa has a green silhouette of Cloud.
0:44:52
Blue "The Edge" sign. Name of the city Tifa and Marlene now lives in.
0:52:41
Look what fell on Rude. Another big Loveless ad.
0:53:17
Do I see ghosts? There's some transparent citizens running away on the bottom-right corner.
0:56:00
Look a chocobo! Oh wait, it's a sign... "Chocobo House"
0:58:11
Close-up of the chocobo sign again behind Yuffie.
0:58:18
Bahamut's fireball heads for the signs with "Edge Temple, Zen" and "Chocobo".
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Sephiroth is... bald. Well, they just didn't put enough hair on him so you can see the round sphere they used to model his head.
is that Aerith on that loveless sign?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seikon-Shoukougun
oh and my question:
Does Vincent have a pink ribbon? couldn't tell with all the red
I'm not sure. But it sure looks like her...Quote:
Originally Posted by cloud20747
Ribbon? What ribbon? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by cloud20747
You know, the ribbon everybody wears on their arm to signify they remember Aeris or something. And...I have no idea if he does or not.
Ohh that ribbon...
Well read below...
Oh and uhh what's up with this wolf (I don't have a screenshot). It always shows up in the movie... :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Storyline, Advent Children.net
Every playable character from FFVII (as well as Marlene) has a pink ribbon. Vincent's is on his right forearm.Quote:
Originally Posted by cloud20747
Indirectly. According to the DVD commentary, the wolf is a symbol of Cloud's guilt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seikon-Shoukougun
It's supossivly Fenrir, which is the name of Cloud's bike aswell.
OK. Here's another question: What did Tifa murmured/mummbled when she's talking with Cloud in the bar, right before Cloud goes to the forgotten capital? The subtitles read "Drifting, drifting... Drifting, drifting..."
What did she really say?
*not the actual words*
Tifa: Can't since were not a real family huh...
Cloud: I... I can't save anyone anymore. Not family nor friends.
Tifa: Drifting, drifting... Drifting, drifting...
you mean "Zuruzuru, Zuruzuru"?
I think its suppose to be an onomatopoeia for a dragging sound...
Tifa's telling Cloud that he's always dragging?
Anyways, question:
1. Kadaj and the gang brought the Elena and the other guy to Ajit and tortured them?
2. When Cloud's phone fell to the bottow of the err.river, Aeris' voice was last heard. Was it part of the message Cloud received?
3. Rufus was bringing the JENOVA's cells all along under his cloak? O.o
4. Why is Rufus on a wheelchair..he can stand quite well..
1. Kadaj and the gang brought the Elena and the other guy to Ajit and tortured them? They took Elena and Tseng and tortured them. Vincent helped them escape.
2. When Cloud's phone fell to the bottow of the err.river, Aeris' voice was last heard. Was it part of the message Cloud received? No. It was like when Kadaj heard Aeris call him and he became pyreflies.
3. Rufus was bringing the JENOVA's cells all along under his cloak? O.o Well that's what we saw.
4. Why is Rufus on a wheelchair..he can stand quite well... He was weakened by Geostgma. He can only stand for a brief period of time.
Okay then another question..
What did Cloud actually say to Tifa when he arrived to fight with Bahamut and its significant?
From the translations I got:
"It has become lighter. Must because I wore it down too much."
or something like that..@_@
I think he said he dragged it soo much referring to when Tifa said he was dragging around earlier, the whole Zuruzuru Zuruzuru thing. Also saying in a way he resolved his problem of needing forgiveness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyuu
THE JACKEL
its referring to his emotional status or burden, which had lightened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyuu
i know no ones talked about this since the start of this thread so sorry for bringing it back up, but are you lot on about the buster sword Cloud had in the game? Because i thought that that was the sword that you saw when you first see Kadaj and the gang and i cant remember Cloud ever picking it up.
I don't think they would bother showing Cloud going a long way finding back the sword...but he sure got it back alright.
so when is the fight when he see him use it? is it in the Cloud vs Kadaj fight when tifa is trying to explain the 'feeling he had two years ago' cause the sword that flew out of clouds hand and stuck in the wall had that red ridge on it which the buster sword you see when cloud has those flashbacks with zack doesnt.
Also, another question, why does Kadaj take the children and make them drink the water? is it just to make cloud come to them or is there a reason i missed?