Do you think they should discontinue feeding her or perserve her life? Touchy subject, I dunno what I would do in this case...
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Do you think they should discontinue feeding her or perserve her life? Touchy subject, I dunno what I would do in this case...
KILL HER ALREADY! I want different news and entertainment already.
http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58414
Take care all.
Dang, The Cap'n beat me to it.
Yeah, this is what? The third thread about this?
My question is, why isn't she dead yet?
They should do what the father thinks they are doing and really pump her full of morphine.Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0tine
It's only been a week, I think. They said she could live up to two weeks. With IV, you can live up to a month without food.Quote:
My question is, why isn't she dead yet?
Haha oops, ok. haven't been on Eyeson in a while, so don't beat me up :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Behold the Void
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That makes no sense. Why is she on IV anyway if they are trying to kill her?Quote:
It's only been a week, I think. They said she could live up to two weeks. With IV, you can live up to a month without food.
She's not on an IV. I never said she was. I said without food or an IV, she can live for up to two weeks (sometimes more, it depends). It's been 11 days.
It sounded like you thought people would die within a few days without food. My point was that with just an IV, you can live up to a month.
People can live for a while without food, that I know. However, water is a different story. It doesn't make sense to me that they would refrain from giving her food, but still give her water.
Did you read what I said? o.o I never said she was on an IV............ She's NOT on an IV.Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0tine
She's not on an IV. I never said she was. I said without food or an IV, she can live for up to two weeks (sometimes more, it depends). It's been 11 days.
It sounded like you thought people would die within a few days without food. My point was that with just an IV, you can live up to a month.
Kill her don't put hte feeding tub back in.I don't care.The family needs to let go now because she'll die eventually from an infection like my Aunt did when she was in that vegetative state.Which hit my grandma harder than a 10 ton bag of stones that was dropped fromt eh empire state building.
MY grandmother ended up better off unlike most people.But she isn't over it and she cries a lot.I mean she lost her daughter.
I'm sorry about your aunt, but just because she died that way doesn't mean Terri will. Terri has been there for 15 years, and never had a bed sore. She's been in excelent health, actually.Quote:
The family needs to let go now because she'll die eventually from an infection like my Aunt did when she was in that vegetative state.
Starving someone to death just seems so cruel...
You made that quite clear.Quote:
Did you read what I said? o.o I never said she was on an IV............ She's NOT on an IV.
However, if she has been alive for ELEVEN days then she has been getting water. As far as I know, you CANNOT live for 11 days without water.
It would be cruel, but as far as I know she can't feel a thing.Quote:
Starving someone to death just seems so cruel...
Yes starving is cruel its better off if they just shoot 'em int he head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luthien Rogue
im glad they are letting that lady jsut go. i mean, i wouldnt want to be in a veggie state for 15 years. its time for them to move on. The parents are just holding on. And besides, they have been stepping outside of their legal boundries for too long. let the woman go and die in piece. And yes its possible to survive for quite a period of time without food or water. 11days is a long time ,but people have gone that long before and have jsut suffered servere dehydration.
The only sad thing is about this is that she is stuck in the middle of this silly fued that should have ended 3years ago.
Sarcasm is a wonderful thing, that is, when it's used in good taste. Your "joke" was made in poor taste. There are ways of helping move the process along quicker, or even doing it themselves, and it is painless. Ever gone a day without eating? It is not painless. Imagine not eating for weeks...Quote:
Originally Posted by lordblazer
It's not like she's going to live for a long period of time when your brain damaged. They say shes 'suffering' but how do they know that for sure? She's not a vegetable. She can move, look around and blink. She could be aware of what's going on and they just want to pull the plug and let her starve to death. Just let her die when she's ready to go. She's not causing any harm.. :(
Actually, I don't think he was joking.Quote:
Sarcasm is a wonderful thing, that is, when it's used in good taste. Your "joke" was made in poor taste.
She moves around and looks around involuntarily. She is brain dead, and science has pretty much proven that she has no idea what is going on. These are all involuntary movements. She doesn't smile anymore, she moves her mouth. She doesn't look at people, her eyes just happen to move in that direction.Quote:
It's not like she's going to live for a long period of time when your brain damaged. They say shes 'suffering' but how do they know that for sure? She's not a vegetable. She can move, look around and blink. She could be aware of what's going on and they just want to pull the plug and let her starve to death.
She's in a persistent vegetative state. She can't feel pain. The entire front half of her brain is gone - nothing but spinal fluid. The courts have ruled 21 times, with over 30 judges, that Terri made it clear in life that she would want to die, and that her guardian, Michael, has the right to make the final decision.
30+ judges know a helluva lot more than I do.
Well, she's harmless and if everyone feels she needs to die, then so be it. If she can't do a damn thing thing then might as well, let only productive people live, though it''s not like she's going to live much longer! :mad2:
Actually, you can last for a couple weeks without water, if you're in a moisturized, air conditioned environment (hospital) and doing almost nothing (lying in a vegitative state or a coma- and the two ARE very different).
But, I've said it before and I'll say it again. "If I'm ever in such a condition, end it. I don't care if you have to strangle me with your bare hands, don't leave me like that. Please, for the love of everything good, don't."
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Originally Posted by LifeAsABullet
But see thats also another thing. She would have died a long time ago. But she had been on life support for years. She wasnt even breathing on her own until recently. The body may have healed its self, but the mind has long since been dead. Its time for them to let go.
The body moving has nothing to do with having a functioning brain. As already stated, the body involentarily twitches, Even after we are dead. There are stories of bodies poping up and moving alittle(while in the morgue) because electical impulese that still get sent around. But the body and brain are very much dead.
Im sorry, but "veggie state" turns a serious situation into a frickin' hilarious one! (Am I the only one that found humor in that?)Quote:
i mean, i wouldnt want to be in a veggie state for 15 years. its time for them to move on.
A bit of devil's advocacy...
From what I understand, Terri's parents are willing to take over all responsibility (financial and otherwise) for Terri's care and release Michael Schiavo of his obligations. In return, they're simply asking for their daughter's life.
I don't think Terri ever made it clear that she wouldn't want to live in such a state and I suppose her parents are just trying to err on the side of caution.
So yeah, I can definitely why Terri's parents are fighting as hard as they are. I mean, it's their daughter. If were faced with the same dilemma, I'd like to believe that I would be strong enough to let my daughter pass away. But who knows, maybe if it really came down to it, I'd cling on and refuse to let go.
To basically quote Raistlin from the other thread, this woman died 15 years ago, her body just hasn't realized it yet. I hate to sound heartless, but I seriously hope she dies tomorrow. This was never the whole damn country's business and the sooner she dies the sooner everyone will get their noses out of it. And the sooner those ret... I mean, protestors outside her hospice will go home. Although it is kind of funny watching them get arrested.Quote:
Originally Posted by . . ., well, me, in the other thread about this
This whole thing about her is sickening and makes no sense to me. I think she needs to die, her family needs to die, and everyone connected to the situation in any way along with the protestors need to die. Then the world's memory needs to be erased with one of those things from Men in Black.
She is braindead... the family takes hours on hours of video, asking the same questions over and over, and finally, when they get a certain response, that is what they hand over to the media. Those actions are all reflexes, and many specialists have said she is brain dead. take out her feeding tube, she's dead.
We should have Congress pass a law to make "pulling the plug" more humane, she shouldnt have to starve to death. So other than that i dont think she should be suffered to live anylonger. Im gonna have to get that put in my will now that ive seen this "episode" unfold, i want their to be no question about my wishes.
Based on personal experience, I'd say her husband is acting appropriately. Although in our instance, our family acted all in agreement (or at least a heavy majority), whereas here in the US when a lawsuit can be dropped so easily things are different.
Good for her, her situation was inhuman.
Agreed, I doubt I could bring myself to let my daughter pass away, if I were in their situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
At least now she finally can rest in peace.
If I wasn't too late to make a statement, I totally agree with what LifeAsABullet said. I don't believe the woman shoudl have been left to die like that, I find it inhumane, although now she will be in peace how can anybody be certain on whether or not she was comfortable?Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeAsABullet
I feel really sorry for her.
Florida state law mandates that the judges err on the side of life. Multiple witnesses outside of the husband testified that she would, indeed, want to die, which made over 30 different judges rule in favor of her death on 21 different occasions. That must've been some pretty persuasive evidence.Quote:
If I wasn't too late to make a statement, I totally agree with what LifeAsABullet said. I don't believe the woman shoudl have been left to die like that, I find it inhumane, although now she will be in peace how can anybody be certain on whether or not she was comfortable?
I feel really sorry for her.
May she finally rest in peace.
In my view, she died fifteen years ago.
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Originally Posted by Shadow Nexus
Did she die through starvation?
Oh, she did, and now people can begin to accept it. And she died of dehydration... starvation would have taken another couple weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skogs
So she's finally dead?
That or the bush administration put a dummy in her place and smuggled her into the witness protection program. Why? Well it is the Bush administration.
Requiescat in pace
Thank God, her soul can finally be unbound from this world, and she is nolonger forced to live that "life" as it was called.
It's a good thing Terri wasn't his dog, or that sort of starvation/dehydration would be considered inhumane; illegal. We can't as a society be allowing people to abuse their pets, and such, after all. Their wives, now, well that's a different story altogether, in the eyes of the law. Serial killer Michael Ross in Connecticut is up for execution soon. Perhaps lethal injection is too inhumane. If starvation and dehydration is humane enough to kill a spouse, it should be humane enough to kill a depraved psychopath. But it isn't. We offer humane deaths to our pets and our worst criminals, and only bring out the cruel and unusual deaths on loved ones.
That, my friend, is a harding truth. Can't really say I agree or disagree as I'm in no mood to debate anymore. But a very profound sentiment, says I...
Of course Haven't you heard "love hurts"?
ok that was corney.. yes we should have euthansia(sp?) or whatever it is.. much more humane. I don't care if she could fell or not.. this would have been through much quicker if they would have done it the quick way.
She's dead, they killed her. Maybe it was for the best...how long could they have kept her like that, anyways? :(