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i was just pondering.....how did people come up with underwear??
did they just one day think "we need more under these trousers" or what?
plus why do we REALLY need pants? i mean, for girls they don't hold anything in and guys rarely wear them anyway!
its a puzzle......
i need them to hold everything in :eek:
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Actually, I think the diaper was invented first. Or, maybe, it's because poorly tanned hard leather was chaffing, so a nice, soft undercloth was invented for comfort's sake. And I can only wonder what those poor Medieval Knights were dealing with... heavy cold iron with joints that pinch... *shudder*. I'd want all my various dangling parts as close to my body as possible.
Girls have this thing every month. You know that thing?
And men can't just be left dangling.
yeah i kinda know about that......Quote:
Originally Posted by Iri Valentine
but that only lasts a week. what about the rest of the time?
plus lacey underwear?? is it nessisary? under normal circumstances it chaffs and during....."nocturnal" activities they get ripped off in under 30 seconds! :p
*cringes*, it makes me sick just thinking about itQuote:
Originally Posted by udsuna
Haha I figured you would.Quote:
Originally Posted by boris no no
But I get what you're saying.
I wear lacey underwear, well, because it's pretty!
so the queation is.....do you wear boxers or pants?Quote:
Originally Posted by udsuna
Actually, neither... jeans are more than comfortable enough, all on their lonesome ;). But, if I had to wear garments of metal or leather... I'd surely find SOMETHING to shield myself with. I can't afford to lose a couple of inches to some inconvenient slide of two metal plates :eek:. And rashes always suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by boris no no
but what happens if you get the zip stuck..... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by udsuna
couple of inches eh??? ;) ;)
I never got the zipper stuck... I make sure I'm carefully tucked into place. Along my left leg.Quote:
Originally Posted by boris no no
And, yes, couple of inches. They only place I want to lose a couple inches is around my belly button.
Oh, and can we stop talking about my genetalia now?
This thread better stay to underwear's purpose or I might get sick. :skull2:
how could you get sick of ud bits???? :p :p :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Iri Valentine
but ok then!
i'm wearing pink ones right now!
oooooh on a sort of the same topic....
do you wear matching bra and pant set??
i can never be bothered to find the matching ones! plus all my bras are black
Oh! All my bras are black and either silk or lace. I bought them all in sets (with matching black lace panties yay!) at this special store that does odd sizes. I'm irregular, and I hate it, but I really like my underwear!Quote:
Originally Posted by boris no no
I'm wearing ones I bought this morning, my only red and black lace set to date.
Boris, I could not imagine you'd be wearing anything but pink. It's all your Bao Zi's fault! It turns pink and you're very pink!
I wear my underwear on my head. :spin:
Wel all my underwear is black and matching lol except for my Corset that's Black with pink lovehearts all over it plus it has a pink ribbon hehe i like to wear boxers too!they're so comfortable ;) XxxQuote:
Originally Posted by boris no no
I like underwear almost as much as I like normal clothes. My favorite pair are my plain black boyshorts.
I feel as if I've told this story before.
Gasp, don't double post. ;) ~m4tt
Ofcourse. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by boris no no
LOL @ Jellisaurus.
What the hell is this.
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Originally Posted by Old Manus
See thread title.
Oh yeah.
I think that underwear were invented by laundresses...who were tired of cleaning gross old skid marks :barf: out of people's pants...so they invented something small, light, absorbent, and easily "Lost" :radred: in the laundry when they get too dirty...unlike the pants, which would be missed.
I'm wearing my black lacey thong. Sometimes I wear it backwards, but that feels REALLY strange since I have certain parts of the human anatomy that girls don't. :confused: :confused: :confused:
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Originally Posted by Venom65437
Hey, i don't wear mine backwards, but i'm wearing one too!
... I don't suppose you wanted to know that.
Well, in Elizabethan times it was fashionable to dangle out as much as possible - those codpeices guys used to wear were all about making their nether regions stick out as much as humanly possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by udsuna
However here's some Historical Notes:
History of Men's Underwear:
Loincloths were the first underwear, to "hold things in" and protect the body from the elements. The remnants of leather loincloths have been found with the remains of pre-historic man living 7,000 years ago. The loincloth is the simplest and probably the first undergarment worn by human beings, alone in warmer climates and covered by other garments in colder. The Egyptians of the 2nd millenium B.C. used fabric to form an undergarment over which they wore a skirt. Men in ancient Rome wore what was called a subligaculum, which in modern terms means a pair of shorts or a loincloth and was worn under a toga or tunic.
Around the 13th century, pull-on underpants were invented and underwear became an important garment. The loincloth was replaced by large, baggy drawers called 'braies', which were often made from linen and seem to be worn by men from all classes of society under their normal clothing. Knights wore 'braies' under several layers of clothing topped by their armor. The wearer stepped into them and then laced or tied them around the waist and legs at about mid-calf.
In the Renaissance, braies became more snug and were usually fitted with a flap in the front that buttoned or tied closed. This codpiece allowed men to urinate without having to remove the braies completely. At first, the codpiece was entirely a practical matter of modesty. Men's hose were typically very snug on the legs and open at the crotch, with the genitalia simply hanging loose under the doublet. A shortening of the doublet resulted in often-exposed genitalia, so the codpiece came into being. As time passed, codpieces were shaped to emphasize the male genitalia and eventually often became padded and bizarrely shaped. Henry VIII of England began padding his own codpiece, which caused a spiraling trend of larger and larger codpieces that only ended by the end of the 16th Century. They also often doubled as pockets, handy carrying places for a variety of items.
Victorian times and the Industrial Revolution brought the "long underwear" phase. The standard undergarment of this period for men, women, and children was the Œunion suitˆ, which provided coverage from the wrists to the ankles. The union suits of the era were usually made of knitted material and included a drop flap in the back to ease visits to the toilet. Because the top and bottom were united as a one-piece garment it received the name Œunion suitˆ.
In 1920, Joe Cartledge the Owner and founderof the Guelph Elastic Hosiery Company invented the first jock strap or athletic supporter. The jock strap was marketed under the name Protex.
In the 1930s, union suits went out of favor and boxers and briefs became the 'vogue'. The 1930s saw another major innovation, that is easy elastic waists replaced button, snap, and tie closures. At around this time companies began selling buttonless drawers fitted with an elastic waistband, which were the first true boxer shorts. The name is derived from the shorts worn by professional fighters. The word "underpants" also entered the dictionary. Jockey' began making briefs in 1930 but it was not until 1934 with the advent of 'Jockey' Y-vent briefs that the design of menˆs underwear made a leap forward. It was the first time an easy-to-use diagonal vent was applied to boxers and briefs.
The History of Women's Underwear:
Prior to the 1700s, women wore a long shirt from shoulders to calves next to their skin, day and night, not underpants and other items common today. The rich and upper classes wore fancy versions, the rest simple ones. Only men wore pants as outer clothing, a symbol of their authority (in English we still say "so-and-so wears the pants in the family." It was believed unhealthy for women to wear closed pants because they thought genitals needed air to allow moisture to evaporate, which could otherwise cause them to decay.
Two tubes of cloth joined at the waist and open in the crotch formed the earliest women's underpants, around 1800, until bloomers were developed later in the century. Also it wasn't until nearly 1900 that women developed belts to collect menstuation, and that was only in the upper classes.
Panties, the girdle and garters came about in the 1920's with the shortening of skirts.
The Thong was first introduced in the 1939 World's Fair when New York Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia mandated that the city's nude dancers cover themselves, so a skimpy form of underwear was introduced. However, it did not become publically popular until it was incorporated into the designs of bikinis in the 1970s.
History of the Bra:
The Corset was started by Catherine de Médicis, wife of King Henri II of France in the 1500s as more of a waist-consticting device than a breast-constricting device. Banning the appearence of "thick" waists at court, she pushed the corset, an unhealthy and painful device made of whalebones and steel rods designed to narrow an adult women's waist to 13, 12, 11 and even 10 or less inches, starting a fashion trend of midriff torture which lasted over 350 years.
The corset was replaced by the first modern bra in 1913. Invented by New York socialite Mary Phelps Jacob, she designed the device after purchasing a sheer evening gown which was warped terribly by the corset's design. Whalebones poked out visibly around the plunging neckline and under the sheer fabric. Frustrated, Mary tied two silk handkerchiefs together with some pink ribbon an pattened it as a bra -an alternative to the corset. The corset's death finally rang out in 1917, when they were scrapped as a source of metal for WWI. The old corsets supplied the war effort with over 28,000 tons of metal.
The Class of Underwear:
"Centuries ago, underwear was only worn by the wealthiest of nobles. With the introduction of linen in the 18th century, lingerie elitism made way for mass under-wearing. In turn, the life expectancy of peasants sky-rocketed as they became significantly less prone to bacterial disease and infection. Of course the aristocracy swiftly drove underwear to new more expensive heights with corsets and bloomers of richer material. In fact, class is still delineating itself underneath our pants (Fruit-of-the-Loom bras go 3 for under $5 and Victoria's Secret bejeweled "Miracle Bra" is in excess of $1,000,000)."
LOL - I always get my underwear at Victoria's Secret. I guess that makes me an elitest. ;)
That's, erm..interesting.
whoa!
i didn't realise there was so much about pants!!
wow! i leant alot.
it desturbs me thati men! ew! the mess and all.....Quote:
Also it wasn't until nearly 1900 that women developed belts to collect menstuation, and that was only in the upper classes.
Haha, the bra was made in NOO YOIK.
I wear just plain underwear. I don't have any need for frilly underwear, because since I'm 14/nearly 15 I'm not, as boris put it, having "nocturnal activity." xD
Grooooss. xDQuote:
Well, in Elizabethan times it was fashionable to dangle out as much as possible - those codpeices guys used to wear were all about making their nether regions stick out as much as humanly possible.
I love underwear! I dunno what I would do without them! :love:
I'm wearing pink checkered victoria's secret undies right now... ^___^ Whoo.
porn :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Manus
All this talk about underwear is getting me kind of...
kind of...:sweat:
BEMUSED! :p
talking about your underwear is healthy!
join in! :tongue:
Sexy blue boxers. *pose* Feel free to take pictures ladies.
*click*
thats going into my special box! :tongue: :p :tongue: :p :tongue:
Oh fine! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by boris no no
My most loved underwear set is a turquoise lot with red flowers, they sound ugly but they're all pretty!
My fave nicks are black with sequin cherries on and pink ones with black mickey mouses! :love:
Lads look better in navy and black boxers preferably Calvin Klein :D
Me too. Google is a scary thing. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by boris no no
Word. As a woman I can't imagine how recently period underwear was created, but apparently in some Indian and African tribes they still wear nothing, and no one thinks its wierd. Also, I read The Red Tent last year (such a great book!), which described how for the week of a woman's cycle back in Biblical times, all the women in a tribe would sit inside a red tent on straw and drink and eat cakes and pamper themselves, while the men had to cook, clean, and basically fend for themselves for a week. I say, why'd we get rid of that? I want an excuse to treat myself for the week I'm dealing with that crap. :pQuote:
i men! ew! the mess and all.....
I guess pants gave too many rashes on the genital area. Therefor we get something softer and to protect us from rashes.
Well, maybe I did... er.... :joey:Quote:
Originally Posted by Iri Valentine
Lmfao, I've only been here for about 2 days n a half now n already I think all of ya are completely nuts. I have to say I'm not one for actually reading/typing on forums, I usually just sign up post 2 or 3 then leave, n never come back, but EoFF has certainly caught my attention. I mean.. 2 n a half days... and I've posted about 20 - 40 posts already lolol. I'm beginning to love ya all as it is lolol. Keep up the good humour :D
<3<3<3
Yeah, I thought that the general idea for underwear was to prevent chafing. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Dingo Jellybean
Not really - as you can see from the history stuff - it was thought more comfortable and healthier to wear nothing for centuries, especially for women. It is really only in the last 100 years that underwear has become a necessity, and only in the last 30 that it was really considered a fashion statement.
Look what your post made the google adds do!Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Miss Awesome
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ies/imgad1.jpg
It would be pretty uncomfortable not to wear underwear, in my opinion, due to the various fabric of whatever your trousers/pants/skirt whatever may be =P Comfort makes Xander happy.
I wear pants all the time.Quote:
why do we REALLY need pants? i mean, for girls they don't hold anything in
And I would prefer not sitting on things that have other people's fluids on them, and not leaking fluids of my own.
Some fancy people call it 'sanitation'
ahh. boxers are so comfortable. especially at night. if i had a motorcycle, id go riding around at night in my boxers. :cry:
I'm sorry, my intentions were good :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by TasteyPies
my boxers have red poka-dots on them :D :D :D
Bah Optional things my friend..OPTIONAL.
Tightie whities are the best :love: Its just like man thongs.
This might be one of the most intriguing questions anyone has ever asked here. Good job.
but what about briefs :eyebrow:Quote:
Originally Posted by lionx
red boxers atm thats all im saying
to keep ya bits in
Dunno why gals have them.
Just in case the skirt flys and I guess
awww shucks. thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Strider
maybe the girls WANT the skirt to fly up!!! :p :p :p :pQuote:
to keep ya bits in
Dunno why gals have them.
Just in case the skirt flys and I guess
another thing....
how did they come up with the shape? i mean, did they just cut two hols on some cloth? or what? :confused: :confused: pants are weird
Maybe someone wearing a loincloth got annoyed with the bunched up fabric in th middle...For example..."Gee this bunched up stuff chafes..feels like a diaper..maybe if I...*snip snip*..Ahh! That's better..now what to do with these bits of cloth. Oh! I know..I'll stitch them on to the sides!"
This topic is giving me the giggles.
I see London, I see France, I see evil underpants. :radred: Maybe blue, maybe white, maybe full of dynamite! :eek:
Sorry..juvenile moment! :exdee: :razz:
No one should be imbarrased about talking about underwear. Why do we have to underwear anyway. I'd rather we go natural baby.
Which I do sometimes. Hope I aint scared anyone.
not at all im naked right now......lol
Under-whats? :confused:
We are ALL nekkid, we just have cloth around us to look hip :)
If we didn't wear pants, it'd be pretty darn cold. And the reason for underwear.. Well, i'm sure they were invented by a guy who forgot to put up his flyer a lot or something. But seriously, without underwear, you'd get body fluids on your pants, and would have to change a lot. Or, you'd smell pretty bad.
Does that mean that more body fluids will be on your underwear if we had em then? O_O *checks tightie whitie*
i dunno abuot you but i'm pretty worried about your body fluids........mine don't leak all the time..... :eek:
i love pants today! i'm wearing my pink ice cream ones! they look like y-fronts but for girls :cool:
Now heres the thing..do they TASTE like ice cream? o.o
yes. yes they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by lionx