British Election

It's 1am time for the first few results of the british election.

I didn't vote way to busy with my dissertation i would of gone tory though.


Average swing of 5 % away from labour mostly to lib dems due to the factor of the iraq war. If it stays this way labour will have it's majority cut to only 40 MPs the end for Blair. If the swing reaches 6.2% we get a hung parliment. only 23 out of 642 seats in at the moment though so who's to judge

Labour 31 MP's
Lib Dems 3 Mp's
Conservative 1 MP
Scotish national party 1 MP


Old fighting prescott (deputy prime minister, if tony blair dies he's in control)just got relected, he may be labour but i like him.

glad to see that no americans care.

I care but it's not like much has come out yet.

I'm keeping watch.

It's 25 past three and Labour seems to be cruising towards a third term, admittedly taking a battering while they're at it. It's currently at 285/94/35. Labour not gaining any new seats. The Lib Dems are taking seats off of Labour, but are also losing several to the Tories, which is a shame.

Latest forecast was for a Labour majority of around ~70.

Labour win, we knew this would happen

But they have had there majority halved and tony blair is in a weak position now to attacks from his rebel backbenchers.

No surprises this time, huh? Just that it won't be a landslide win like the LAST two times, I guess. Was it two times? :(

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Originally Posted by Resha

No surprises this time, huh? Just that it won't be a landslide win like the LAST two times, I guess. Was it two times? :(

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Yep, 97 & 01.

I really wanted Conservative to win... :(

Not another 4 years with Tony Bliar Blair... Ahem.

I'll copy and paste this from my LJ :D ...but I'll edit the sweary bit!

Results of "Big 3":
Labour: 353 seats, 36% of the vote.
Conservatives: 196 seats, 33% of the vote. (The party I support and voted for)
Liberal Democrats: 60 seats, 22% of the vote.

Beforehand, all the media was blaring out (No pun intended) that Labour would dominate and that the Conservatives would stand no chance. Look at the percentages. It's a 3% difference. I believed Labour would win so I'm not annoyed about that, I'm annoyed about the 3% difference. It's so close. But due to media propaganda, we're stuck with Blair for 5 more years. Thank you very much, BBC, but I'll come onto that in a minute.

I find it funny that 3% of the country have 156 MPs to represent them. Damn you First Past the Post system. Also HURRAY that the Lib Dems didn't do as well as our dear propaganda spouting friends said they would.

Why the Conservatives didn't get that magic 3% more which would have swung many seats (Including my own constituency):
- BBC are so pro-Labour and pro-Lib Dem it makes me want to burn down television centre. No, I'm not exaggerating. I did my English Language coursework on how the BBC treat different parties, with types of question, amount of time they spoke/interviewer spoke, etc, and there's a clear anti-Conservative bias.
- The Liberal Democrats and a lot of their voters. Most people who voted for the Lib Dems voted for them because they were neither Conservative or Labour (polls say so). They don't even know their policies. It is idiotic to vote for something if you don't know the policies, in my personal opinion. If you want Labour out, vote Conservative because it's the lesser of two evils or something. But when the Lib Dems don't even campaign on their policies, and instead going around campaigning that they're the REAL ALTERNATIVE then it's no wonder...
- The media treating the Lib Dems like they are as big as the Conservatives or Labour. They're not. There is no "Big 3." It's a "Big 2." Less than one in four people want the Lib Dems. That says it all. And Charles Kennedy claiming that the Lib Dems would replace the Conservatives as the second party? Yeah, OK Charles, whatever you say. :rolleyes2
- Predictions that Labour would win by a mile. Yeah, 3% is a lot! This discouraged many people from voting considering the election to be a foregone conclusion, when clearly their votes could have swung it.

Now that Labour and Blair are back in power, here's what we can look forward to:
- Nothing.

But I'm not annoyed because they won, like I said. I genuinely believed the media when they said the Conservatives wouldn't win. But 3%? We've been played like fools. Utter fools.

Anyway, I'll leave you with the final thought that nearly all of my Politics class (ie, people who actually know about politics) voted Conservative. :D

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Originally Posted by TisWas

Not another 4 years with Tony Bliar Blair... Ahem

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It's 5. He can choose to hold an election at any time in the next 5 years. He chose now because a major problem might happen for Labour in the next year, causing them to lose.

yeah. i was really shocked that labour won again. i really thought it would be the tories. and lib dems close behind.
i actually voted so i do feel good about it. :) but the party i voted didn't win....
i think that lib dems gained 7 seats (wow...........) and labour got like 80 or something. they got 161 last time.
but my politics is a bit hazy so not too sure....
i'm disapointed with it.
one thing that annoys me is that some people voted labour purely on the fact that they always have done or they say its the working class party....maybe years ago but not now.


edit~damn psy for being a politics know it all....

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Originally Posted by psy

- The Liberal Democrats and a lot of their voters. Most people who voted for the Lib Dems voted for them because they were neither Conservative or Labour (polls say so). They don't even know their policies. It is idiotic to vote for something if you don't know the policies, in my personal opinion. If you want Labour out, vote Conservative because it's the lesser of two evils or something. But when the Lib Dems don't even campaign on their policies, and instead going around campaigning that they're the REAL ALTERNATIVE then it's no wonder...

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.............................what?
yes i don't know much about politics but bog off.
i didn't vote conservatives as
1. i come from a poor family. if they're anything like last time (sorry for using maggie as a comparison) we're basically going to die. my dad earns pratically nothing.
2. i didn't want to
3. yes lib dems are diffent and small but i agree with some of the stuff they say like the student thing (yes the new stuff won't effect me but what about others?? my brother cannot afford to go to uni if the bloody fees are £3000. seen as my dad earns £5500 a year)
4. bloody lesser of two evils my bum. they're both the same.
5. the war thing. they both lied about it. at least lib dems stood by what they said and told the truth
6. just because i don't want labour in dosn't mean i vote for conservative.

yes i'm a bit of a retard when it comes to this but i still know enough to know that both conservative and labour are as bad as eachother

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

a major problem might happen for Labour in the next year, causing them to lose.

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I really think a major problem will happen. The war in Iraq is getting way too out of hand, something will spark off in the next 5 years, methinks.

A major problem would be a good thing if it meant they would lose.

Cue in Conservatives. http://board.muse.mu/images/smilies/happy.gif

I think its a pretty sorry indictment on the Tories that the Labour party could be so unpopular, and yet still win by a large margin. I wanted the Lib Dems to do better than they did - admittedly they did overturn a 9000 vote Labour majority to take my constituency. And that's not just because of Iraq. It's was a pretty clear choice for me: Labour are no longer trustworthy, and the Conservatives are playing on the fears and phobias of the British people.

Plus, I'd never be caught dead supporting the Conservatives.

On the other hand, however, a hung parliament might have been interesting, as it would have forced Labour to side with the Lib Dems.

In my humble and stupid opinion, I don't like the Lib Dems much. They seem way too idealistic. From what I can remember reading *coughNOTALOTcough* they want free...almost everything. Free medicals? Free tuition? Free dental? And they're way too vague about exactly they want.

But then, the way I see it, New labour were kinda vague too. Conservatives were the ones who actually gave approximate figures etc etc. But I percieve it as NL and C having pretty much similar policies on almost everything except Iraq.

Correct me, tell me that I'm totally screwed up. :) But don't be mean to me because it's not my fault I'm stupid! :( :D

Conservative should of won I think, as I think Labour are just liars, and also because of the war thing. I'm glad that Conservative run our area anyway. :D

howard is steping down as leader of the tories, bring back william hauge i say.

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.............................what?
yes i don't know much about politics but bog off.
i didn't vote conservatives as
1. i come from a poor family. if they're anything like last time (sorry for using maggie as a comparison) we're basically going to die. my dad earns pratically nothing.
2. i didn't want to
3. yes lib dems are diffent and small but i agree with some of the stuff they say like the student thing (yes the new stuff won't effect me but what about others?? my brother cannot afford to go to uni if the bloody fees are £3000. seen as my dad earns £5500 a year)
4. bloody lesser of two evils my bum. they're both the same.
5. the war thing. they both lied about it. at least lib dems stood by what they said and told the truth
6. just because i don't want labour in dosn't mean i vote for conservative.

yes i'm a bit of a retard when it comes to this but i still know enough to know that both conservative and labour are as bad as eachother

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I didn't specifically name you as a Lib Dem voter who had no idea what they were doing. Anyway:

1. I remember reading that the average family is now WORSE off than they were in 1997. The Tory government wasn't all Thatcher. Look at John Major. That wasn't so bad for the lower classes. Anyway, do you know what the Lib Dem's policies on the economy are and how they would affect your family?
2. Don't then, but only Labour and Conservatives stand a chance of winning.
3. University fees would be reduced under the Conservatives, as it happens, as Labour's "top-up" fees would be abolished.
4. Labour and the Conservatives are not the same at all. They're opposites to each other. The only thing they agreed on was Iraq - for a time.
5. ...please tell me when the Conservatives lied about Iraq. They said that they would support the war if the 45 minute claim was true. It was not true so they stopped supporting it. Besides, the Lib Dems want to pull Britain's troops out of Iraq. That's totally irresponsible, in my opinion, to abandon Iraq after making a mess of it.
6. Tactically, you probably should. The Lib Dems don't stand a chance of forming a government. It's Labour or the Conservatives, and after Labour's terrible job of the country, it's high time the Tories returned.

Maybe they are as bad as each other - when they're in power. But remember that as we've had Labour for a few years, it's best to balance that out with some Conservative years, and then a few more Labour years. Each one undoes the mess the last one made, but seems to make an entirely new mess of their own.

From the way you're criticising Labour and Conservatives, Boris, it does seem to me that you voted Lib Dem because they're an alternative to them just like I said, even though I did not specifically name you as someone who'd do that. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's the impression I get.

can i point out that the lib dems have said they would only go to war if the UN approved it in ANY situation, that is with beyond a doubt the second stupidest idea i've ever heard. The first being my idea that shaving my head would make me look hard.

Another great idea of the Liberal Democrats is to scrap life prison sentences for murderers, and second time violent/sexual offenders. I can't see the logic behind that, I really can't.

Shaving your head? Haha, that reminds me of something I meant to post in this thread regarding a couple of parties.

UKIP. What a disaster. I think their best vote tally was 3,000 with most being under 2,000. And after putting up so many candidates and yielding no MP's...the amount of money wasted.

And the funny thing is, in almost every constituency where there was a BNP candidate, the BNP candidate beat the UKIP candidate. Beaten by the BNP...how embarassing! UKIP should just give up. If the few voters that voted for them voted Conservative (As of the main parties, the Tories are the most Euro-skeptic), then things might have been different.

how did the mad loony party (or whatever they are called) do?

The Official Monster Raving Loony Party got 200 votes in a couple of constituencies, including Tony Blair's Sedgefield and Michael Howard (Conservative leader)'s Folkestone.

I want to stand as a candidate for them next election. :D

I unfortunately did not vote; I had to give a presentation at Uni and didnt sort out a postal vote. But if I had, I would've voted Tory.
Im glad that Labours majority has been cut down, Blair wont be able to push through all the rubbish that he wants to which is good!

There was a party called The Official Monster Raving Loony Party ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! FOR REAL?! xDDDD Or is it just a nickname?

Nod if university men like you and i weren't kept from voting by a heavy work load maybe the tories would of won.

Monster raving loony party economic policy is intresting they want to take all the years tax revenue and put it on a 7-1 bet at the horse races.

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Originally Posted by gokufusionss1

Monster raving loony party economic policy is intresting they want to take all the years tax revenue and put it on a 7-1 bet at the horse races.

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It's hard enough believing there is a Monster raving Loony Party...but that is just over the top! And if by chance that IS true, and the party DOES exist...well.

I'm baboozled. :D XDDDD

if i knew much about politics i would say more but........as i don't i on't bother.
sorry psy.
i really don't know much about it all. some people tell me i should pay more attention to it buuuuuut. i'm not interested. whoever runs the country will face probles, will end up being hated for their views and someone else will come along.
hitler was seen as germanys saviour when he got into power........
not that and of the UK pms are like hitler

i just don't know enough to say anything!
:p

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Originally Posted by gokufusionss1

Nod if university men like you and i weren't kept from voting by a heavy work load maybe the tories would of won.

Monster raving loony party economic policy is intresting they want to take all the years tax revenue and put it on a 7-1 bet at the horse races.

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'the student vote' should be courted more readily by the Parties!

The monster raving looney party also want to convert all cars to run on Venos to stop congestion.

And they would issue a 99p coin to save on change.

:D

I wish the US had a Monster Raving Looney Party. Of course we do have the Constitution Party, which is almost the same thing except they're serious.

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Originally Posted by eestlinc

I wish the US had a Monster Raving Looney Party. Of course we do have the Constitution Party, which is almost the same thing except they're serious.

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i think you will do soon.
http://usloonyparty.tripod.com/

I didn't vote, but Lib Dems would have been my choice. Well, the Green Party would have been my first choice, but they don't have many candidates.

2. Don't then, but only Labour and Conservatives stand a chance of winning.
6. Tactically, you probably should. The Lib Dems don't stand a chance of forming a government. It's Labour or the Conservatives, and after Labour's terrible job of the country, it's high time the Tories returned. = Psy

I don't like that argument. The Lib Dems only got 14% less of the vote than Labour. It's only because we have this stupid first-past-the-post system that they don't do a lot better. And saying that they aren't an option is absurd. Getting votes is the only way things will change.

I can't believe so many people want the conservatives in! They strike me as rather out of touch with ordinary people.

With the Conservatives, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

It's a well known ract.

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Originally Posted by Burtsplurt

6. Tactically, you probably should. The Lib Dems don't stand a chance of forming a government. It's Labour or the Conservatives, and after Labour's terrible job of the country, it's high time the Tories returned.[/i] = Psy

I don't like that argument. The Lib Dems only got 14% less of the vote than Labour. It's only because we have this stupid first-past-the-post system that they don't do a lot better. And saying that they aren't an option is absurd. Getting votes is the only way things will change.

I can't believe so many people want the conservatives in! They strike me as rather out of touch with ordinary people.

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I only said tactically, ie, if you want Labour out. The Lib Dems can gain MPs, certainly, but due to FPTP they will never get in government. And it's the government that matters. They're the ones that make law (OK, theoretically a Lib Dem MP can introduce legislation, but without government backing it's unlikely to go far), they're the ones that control the executive. If you want a Lib Dem to represent your constituency, ok sure, go ahead, but if you want to vote for a government it really is only Labour or the Conservatives.

The Tories strike me as being very much in touch with ordinary people. Most of the country is opposed to the Euro, so are the Tories. Most of the country want to be tough on crime, so are the Tories. Most of the country want tighter immigration control, so do the Tories. Most of the country want cleaner hospitals, so do the Tories.

Anyway, I also thought I'd post a fun statistic I learned today:
The Conservatives gained 60,000 more votes in England than Labour did, but Labour still gained 92 more MPs there.