I mean really. Not to be pointless, But look at this picture. Wow!! What do you think should be changed about the world. With this picture I say racism...
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I mean really. Not to be pointless, But look at this picture. Wow!! What do you think should be changed about the world. With this picture I say racism...
I hate Nazi smurfs. If they were to all die tommorow the world would be a much better place.
I thought i was the only one who thought the world sucks.
I reckon it wasn't Nazis, just a bunch of kids messing around.
Yeah that is sad, but racism against the living is far worse. Intolerance and bigotry in general is a big problem that I frankly don't see an end to in our life times. Not just against minority races but against minority religions and sexual orientations.
Humans love to hate.
Though I disagree with that, this instance is disgusting. These people should be beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatalis Prime
Not beaten, that would just give them a friendly marthyr status, like Jesus and the likes.
They should be putt in jail, and forced to pay for new stones.
This is an act of racism against the living. The dead were simply used as a means to degrade an entire subgroup of people. When a neo Nazi hates a black person, he doesn't hate the individual, he hates the entire race. An act of hate like this transcends life or death. It is derogatory to every person of that race, including those who are dead, and those who are not yet born.Quote:
Yeah that is sad, but racism against the living is far worse.
Strongly agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0tine
This was a brute act. I wonder how racists turn out to be racists, and if they're influenced by their parents, why do they remind racists after school?
They're bound to see that other races are equally as nice.
That is sad and horrible. Why would peopple do that? The war is over, there's no need to carry it on in a pathetic and quite frankly, a disgusting way. What is the point of being racist? It dosn't matter whats on the the outside, it's the inside that counts!
The harrowing thing is, is that it's hard to ascertain what kind of things make people do this. Bad upbringing? Difficult experiences in school? Genes? I guess you should just be thankful you're not one of these people.
Or maby just a descendant to a nazi who feels angst or such...
Personally, I put it down to stupidity and boredom. A deadly combination. I agree with Old Manus on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.K
As psy said, those are some badly drawn nazi symbols.
They're not badly written. It's the opposite, they're written as a combination of a normal religeous cross and a swastika.
It's insulting bout the religeon and those buried inside. I'd guess that these dead people are jews.
Oh, and how many kids know about the SS in such a way that they know what it was? And how it's writen?
These kids would have to be intrested in history, or intrested in the political movement. I find the seccond response to be the most logical one.
And common. This cant be kids messing around at this level. Since they drew the SS logo perfectly they have to have that stuff memorized, these people have to be old enugh to know how much damage this act does to whomever knew these dead people.
If this is a joke its a sicksick SICK joke...
But yeah this is so damn pointless, the war was over like about 80years? They should get arrested for this and take some time in jail...i would never go as far as beaten...>_> I dont think they deserve that but some time thinking that this isnt cool is good.
60 years.Quote:
But yeah this is so damn pointless, the war was over like about 80years?
It's not about that war, it's about the philosophy of Nazism that is still a stong one today.
All they need to realize is that theyr theory is wrong. Take a look at this fabolous movie called American History X, I dont think I have to give that many arguments for my statement.Quote:
I dont think they deserve that but some time thinking that this isnt cool is good.
I don't get the point of it, though. Someone care to clarify? Did they draw the swastikas on the gravestones to insult the buried people, or to show their support for the Nazis?
Well, not that it matters that much, but...
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It's disgusting, and twisted. Wrong for the living and wrong for the dead. Ugh, but they probably don't even realise how wrong it is.
lol...I love how first someone says "humans love to hate."
Very true, we often have to find enemies to take our aggression out on,
and if we can't find one we will usually create one.
This is followed soon after by "these people should be beaten."
Gotta love it.
Really, who cares about this? It's an insignificant incident that nobody
except those living in that town should really have any concern with.
However there is little other news to report on so they have decided to
pick something somewhat shocking so that people will tell their friends on
their online forums and everyone can reply about how terrible the world
is. The reason the world is a terrible place is because of the news. The
constant barage of horrible events happening all over the world has its
effect on the mind. These events in turn create more events, which
create more news to report on. When there aren't any horrible events
the news throws in some slightly less horrible things. One of the greatest
examples of this, and whenever I think about it I laugh my ass off, is
SARS. What ever happened to it? This deadly epidemic suddenly
disappeared when the Iraq war started. Another fake story for the news
networks to run with while they look desperately for better news to
report on.
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the problem with soceity these days is the underclass.
I don't think the answer to these problems is "what?! oh just take all the kids who did that and send them to juvy for a good while"...or whatever. This may actually have very little to do with the people who did this. Think about, say the people who did this were brought up in a crummy neighborhood with little or no parental supervision? What if they were always picked on at school? The real people who could be to blame are the people who didn't pick one of the guys for soccer at recess. Or the parents who came home drunk and beat there kids. Or the guys who forced drugs onto someone. Honestly some of us might not be any different if we grew up under those conditions. I am NOT condoning what was done. I think it is vile and disgusting. I just think that these problems will persist until every member of society can feel that they are completely accepted. This of course will never happen and this kind of problem will become more and more common.
My math rocks. :DQuote:
60 years.
you mus trealise that over a thousand different cultures hold that sign in belief that two lines crossing each other like that is holy India society holds that in high regards and the NAZI party used it and did atrocities and made that sign into a sign of hate and racism.Quote:
Originally Posted by crash26821
the only crime i see here is vandalism in which some teens got bored and decided it'll be kewl to do that.,
There are very few people in this world who are really good (i personally am not :( ) and the problem of the world is not only the nazis. But you should respect dead people, even if they were your enemy!
So, in other words, they have to be at least twelve or thirteen years old.Quote:
And common. This cant be kids messing around at this level. Since they drew the SS logo perfectly they have to have that stuff memorized, these people have to be old enugh to know how much damage this act does to whomever knew these dead people.
And you must realize that, despite the fact that the swastica or it's variations are used in countless cultures, it has one universal meaning: Hate.Quote:
you mus trealise that over a thousand different cultures hold that sign in belief that two lines crossing each other like that is holy India society holds that in high regards and the NAZI party used it and did atrocities and made that sign into a sign of hate and racism.
The only crime, from a legal standpoint, is vandalism. However, from a moral standpoint the crime is hate.Quote:
the only crime i see here is vandalism in which some teens got bored and decided it'll be kewl to do that.,
Well this world sucks, what else is new?
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Originally Posted by noname
not before WW2 and the nazi party once the nazi party used it its been viewed as a form of hate which is the actually point I'm trying to point out.Quote:
And you must realize that, despite the fact that the swastica or it's variations are used in countless cultures, it has one universal meaning: Hate.
My point exactly. The swastica is no longer used as anything but a symbol of hate. The people who desecrated these tombs were not trying to say "good luck".Quote:
not before WW2 and the nazi party once the nazi party used it its been viewed as a form of hate which is the actually point I'm trying to point out.
That used to be a sacred symbol. Of course, it was going the other way and had four dots in it as well, so I guess the Nazis didn't deface it entirely.
It's unfortunate that the Nazi's ruined the swastica. Has anybody ever noticed that all of the 'bad guys' have all of the coolest looking stuff? The Swastica, Nazi salute, Sickle and Hammer? Come on... it just isn't fair!
I think that the Nazi philosophy was (and is) carried out the wrong way, much like socialism (Stalin was a bad man). From what I understand, the basic thought which Hitler thought was to have a society that doesn't have cultural differences in a way that they offend others, as in molding the culture so that no one would argue with each other. From Hitlers point of view, this could only be done by getting rid of all those who are different from HIS race (that's where he went wrong) and mold everyone to be like him, instead of compromising. I know there are a lot of other things aswell that belong into the nazi area of behavior and actions, but this is one of them.
If you look at Hitler's personal life (anyone seen Der Untergang / The Downfall?), it was quite the healthy one: he was vegetarian, didn't smoke or drink alcohol. He had a dog, Blondie, whom he probably liked more than many people in his life (because of its loyalty). I think that is an expression of discipline, and quite the healthy, good way to live, no matter what other things he did. And because of those other things, 99% of the people see him as the anti-christ or something. He was a human, too, believe it or not (this is what I wanted to point out - and please don't get me wrong, I'm not a nazi or a supporter of the nazi party).
What I'm trying to say is, these kinds of strong life philosophies and religions both are a double-edged sword to me: they provide a good line to follow and to lead a good life, however it is often the way that they are followed that has the flaws.
No, it's not just that. The fact those are Nazi Crosses painted over Jewish graves adds another flavour into all of this, another dimension. It's not just another case of vandalism - this had specific reasons, and the actual devestation of property (which is the only point in vandalism) isn't it - the reasons is to show off hate, and to make the Jewish minority feel beleaguered and un-safe.Quote:
The only crime, from a legal standpoint, is vandalism.
Stalin was a Communist, and and a brutal communist at that, too. Socialism is simply a political stand that claims the weak in society should be taken care of, and that equality should be strived for, even at the expense of the strong.Quote:
much like socialism (Stalin was a bad man).
I knew socialism isn't as "raw" as communism, but aims at the same goal, so I thought it wasn't that big a deal to write that. In other words I think they're basically the same (socialism just doesn't sound as harsh somehow o.o)Quote:
Originally Posted by War Angel
Communism is the goal socialism strives for. Every communism is supposed to initially have started as a socialism and then gradually developed into a communism. Socialism is "Communism lite". It sounds less harsh as it is less harsh. Also, when speaking of socialism and communism, what Stalin did is entirely irrelevant. Stalin was not devoted to the ideology of communism. He just used it to be able to run the Sovjet Union as the totalitarian leader he was. There are no good examples of communisms as it is an impossible ideology to enforce on a national level.
I don't think I'll ever agree to the conversion of our government to communism (I'm from The Philippines BTW). 'Sides, I was told that if ever a government is transformed to communism then you;ve stripped every man of that land of his dreams.
Please read Mein Kampf by Adolf Hilter (you'll have to read the edited version; in his original German manuscript, he didn't write very well) and tell me the man was motivated by benevolence and love, please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rini
Out of all of the philosophies I disagree with out there, Nazism is one of the few I would say really doesn't have a good side (or its intent is to "lead a good life").