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i found this quote today from ghandi "Hitler killed five million [sic] Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher's knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs."
is it me or is it a hugely racist thing to say coming from a man we all believed was peaceful and pretty much untouchable? or am i reading it wrong?
I think he is just stating the truth for the Jews having so much power and religious influence, with all that influence who wouldnt target them?(speaking in terms that if you were Hitler of course).
Are we sure he didn't mean, "They should have killed themselves in order to not give Hitler the satisfaction", or something? The quote seems weird to me, too.
You're reading it wrong. And Jews aren't a race.
Ghandi was a great leader and a visionary, but he was by no means perfect. Apparently he was not very fond of Africans, though in his defense that was the times.
He wasn't that fond of the western civilization either. When he was asked the question "What do you think of western culture?", he answered "It sounds like a good idea."
Jews are both a race and memebers of a religion. Judaism is a religion, but you don't have to believe in it to be a Jew.Quote:
Originally Posted by -N-
That quote really doesn't make sense to me; and I don't doubt that what you have there is a Ghandi quote....I just think it's incomplete. There has to be more to actually put it in context. There's no way he would have been stupid enough to say something like that regardless of whether or not he was peace-loving.
I quoted by memory so the quote is not identical but this is what he said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western...s_a_curriculim
i think she meant my quote.
my quote was also from wikipedia and did not contain any other context.
Of course she did. Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
Jews aren't a race. They're a religious minority and an ethnic minority, but not a race. I know it sounds stupid but there is indeed a difference.
Is it a reference to his pacifism? In any case I demand more clarification
I may be reading it wrong, but I'm pretty sure Ghandhi is saying "Yes, all those Jews being killed was terrible, but they really had it coming and should've done the deed themselves". I'm interested in hearing the whole context of this quote.
I did mean Cloud No. 9's quote; but I checked it up on Wikipedia and it said the exact same thing; there was no other context. @_@ Maybe Wiki's wrong?? Isn't it edited by anyone, after all??
Which race is this ethnic minority a part of then?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
Wikipedia can sometimes be wrong as anyone is allowed to add information.
For example look at what I added a while ago when I was bored:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A4vbur
It has been there a while now, without being removed.
it looks like the quote was correct and ghandi was going on about mass martyrdom.
Mass Matyrdom is kinda a dumb idea. It isn't like the rest of germany was watching the Holocaust or news cameras were there.
Civil Disobediance and Matyrdom really only work under very limited circumstances: A country that is still civilized enough to recognize the evil that you are protesting, Some way that the martyrdom is public enough so the general public knows about it, and a governmant that gives twos what the people think. Without all that, the martyrdom activites and civil disobedience doesn't change anything.
And I have no idea if Ghandi was racist.