Vincent is not Lestat

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07-08-2005, 03:05 AM
kikimm

Vincent is not Lestat

Vincent is not a vampire. So why do people keep saying that he is? It's not exactly people on this site, but on loads of other sites, I see this all the time. So, why is this? Is it just because he doesn't age, and lives in a coffin? He doesn't have any fangs, and doesn't drink blood as far as I know. And he can stand the daylight.

So...can we all agree that he isn't a vampire, and I can smite these nonbelievers? Or do YOU think he is one? (If that's the case, please post your reasons). :monster:

:D
07-08-2005, 03:15 AM
Sin Magnum

nope he surly isnt. he dont have a bat form. case closed.
07-08-2005, 03:18 AM
Levian

Hojo is a vampire.
07-08-2005, 03:32 AM
MAS82587

aeris is a vampire. thats why sephiroth killed her
07-08-2005, 05:13 AM
Hinky the Pickle

Being a vampire in Final Fantasy certainly wouldn't be easy. I mean it's never night time in FF world. Until you sleep at the inn anyway.
07-08-2005, 05:22 AM
The Man

He's not really a vampire, but he has a lot of similarities to them; for example, sleeping in a coffin. Incidentally, the character Keith Valentine in Shadow Hearts is a vampire, and he has a number of similarities to Vincent. Wonder if he's a tribute. The Aeris/Alice similarities have already been pointed out elsewhere, I believe, so it's not entirely unbelievable.
07-08-2005, 07:22 AM
boys from the dwarf

he is an artificial vampire.which means hes has some vampire aspect but also he has been made a shapeshifter so id call him an artificial monster not vampire.
07-08-2005, 07:24 AM
Necronopticous

Well he's certainly a reference to vampire culture.
07-08-2005, 07:33 AM
Cruise Control

Nope, aeris is though, why else would sephiroth stab her through the heart?
07-08-2005, 08:05 AM
Rengori

It seemed more like her right lung because the heart is more towards the left.
07-08-2005, 01:21 PM
Kakashi509

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Originally Posted by bbomber72000

Nope, aeris is though, why else would sephiroth stab her through the heart?

Because he had enough common sence to figure out it was for the best and she reminded me of a vampire,why did you think they wanted cloud to kill her. Now vincent would be like a crossbread or something
07-08-2005, 01:22 PM
KoShiatar

He can surely be called a shapeshifter, but I've always wondered why the vampire thing myself. Just because he's dark and sleeps in a coffin? I don't think so. Someone explain me....
07-08-2005, 01:44 PM
Christmas

His fifth limit break turn him into a vampire. What? how to get his fifth limit break? ssshhhh, that is a secret, ok?
07-08-2005, 02:40 PM
crazybayman

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Originally Posted by boys from the dwarf

he is an artificial vampire.which means hes has some vampire aspect but also he has been made a shapeshifter so id call him an artificial monster not vampire.

Yes.
He's like a werewolf, or Lichen (the gang of werewolf dudes in the movie Underworld who rivalled the vampires).

Certainly this is obvious because he turns into a monster during his limit breaks. And he can tolerate daylight, and don't have fangs, and don't turn into a bat, or have any other qualities of vampires, except that he sleeps in a coffin. Therefore he's a "Werewolf" of sorts, because of Hojo's doing.
07-08-2005, 05:56 PM
Dignified Pauper

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His fifth limit break turn him into a vampire
07-08-2005, 06:45 PM
boys from the dwarf

but id call him an expiriment but the expiriment gave him some vampiric aspect but also have him the power to change his form.60-70%human and 30-40% expirimented shapeshifter.the only reason that they consider him a vampire is his coffin and the way he dresses.so if you think about it he is not a vampire at all.
EDIT:on second thought vincent can only shape shift because of the cells implanted in him which makes him about 99%human1%monster.
07-08-2005, 08:51 PM
BG-57

Although his apperance, sleeping habits, and shapeshifting abilities are certainly traits he has in common with vampires, there is no evidence that he drinks blood.

Less importantly, he can tolerate water and sunlight with no adverse effects. Heck he can even fight underwater! Also there is no demonstration that he has an aversion to garlic, which are traditional weaknesses of vampires.

It is clear that he isn't entirely human, as mentioned in previous posts. He even comments 'I'm getting less human' when he learns Chaos. I wonder he's talking physically or psychologically.
07-08-2005, 09:19 PM
KoShiatar

One thing I'm wondering is: did he receive Jenova cells? I say so since they're the only thing in the game that grant shapeshifting, as we've seen (SPOILER)with the false Tifa in Nothern Crater.
Also (SPOILER)he's been revived by Hojo, who shot him dead in the Nibelheim mansion (I think it was in Ehrgeiz they say he actually died?), and I guess Jenova cells with their vicious vitality are the only thing that can do that. What do you think?
07-08-2005, 09:45 PM
Rengori

That sounds right. I'm not saying it's true, but it definatley gives strong evedince.
07-08-2005, 10:13 PM
Squall of SeeD

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Originally Posted by Werecanary

One thing I'm wondering is: did he receive Jenova cells? I say so since they're the only thing in the game that grant shapeshifting, as we've seen (SPOILER)with the false Tifa in Nothern Crater.

(SPOILER)In all fairness, that form of Tifa was an astral projection. Notice that it didn't actually physically interact with anything, the same as the Sephiroth form that was speaking to Cloud in the Northern Crater. Unlike the earlier forms of Sephiroth (which were JENOVA's body in his form on two occasions, and pieces of JENOVA's body in his form on a few other occasions), those were just projections.

Anyway, (SPOILER)it's difficult to determine what Hojo did to him as we're really not offered any indication, and the transformations Vincent undergoes are much different from other JENOVA transformations, but it is certainly a possibility. The matter of him having died and come back to life is certainly a good case for JENOVA Cell injection, as both Lucrecia and Sephiroth were particularly resilient to death as a result of their JENOVA Cells.
07-08-2005, 11:27 PM
Tanwen Strife

I'd heard he was a vampire but I didn't think it was right. Sure there's the coffin thing and the cape and the fact that Vincent Valentine sounds UBER cool in a Translyvanian accent, but it just doesn't add up. I think he's just supposed to be... not entirely human, like most of the people in FF7 it would seem.
07-08-2005, 11:53 PM
kikimm

So, I see we're all sane here. Good. Just seems like it's artificial resemblances. Maybe some of this will be explained in DOC. Well, actually, probably.

:D
07-09-2005, 12:00 AM
Kakashi509

wait I sleep in a coffin and people don't think i'm a vampire they think i'm a freak so when it comes to him people are all like "He's a vamire person!!!1111" so really should he really be considered a vampire of just a bit mysterious
07-09-2005, 01:01 AM
Slade

Even though he isnt a vampire, you gotta admit he looks alot like the vampire Alucard from the anime, 'Hellsing'....... :D
07-09-2005, 01:34 AM
Kakashi509

yeah and he has a creepy accent explains why people who like Alucard like Vincent
07-09-2005, 02:00 AM
Doomie

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Originally Posted by Unknowns

His fifth limit break turn him into a vampire. What? how to get his fifth limit break? ssshhhh, that is a secret, ok?

There are four Limit Breaks.
07-09-2005, 03:12 AM
Levian

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Originally Posted by Del Mordor

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Originally Posted by Unknowns

His fifth limit break turn him into a vampire. What? how to get his fifth limit break? ssshhhh, that is a secret, ok?

There are four Limit Breaks.

which is why he's suggesting that a fifth limit breaks makes vincent into a vampire, doofus. :rolleyes2 Anyway, his sixth limit turns him into Marilyn Monroe on speed.
07-10-2005, 06:50 PM
Del Murder

Doesn't he directly say 'I'm a vampire'?
07-10-2005, 07:50 PM
silentenigma

uhhh, no and no. no. he doesn't say that.
07-10-2005, 08:33 PM
Holy_Aeris

And where exactly in the game does he say he's a vampire???
07-10-2005, 08:40 PM
-N-

Vincent and Vampire both start with V. *nods*
07-10-2005, 08:55 PM
Destai

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Originally Posted by -N-

Vincent and Vampire both start with V. *nods*

Its all starting to make sense now...
07-10-2005, 09:06 PM
Holy_Aeris

Of course!!! Why did i not see it before!!!
:p
07-11-2005, 10:02 AM
KoShiatar

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Originally Posted by Squall of SeeD

the transformations Vincent undergoes are much different from other JENOVA transformations, but it is certainly a possibility.

Yes. But my theory on that is that every single human organism reacts differently to them (as it is sometimes the case with certain medical techniques in the real world), depending on when they were given them (before they're born, on an adult organism, etc., ), the amount of cells employed and so on.
I say so because we see a lot of different outcomings in the game from the use of Jenova cells: (SPOILER)Zack isn't affected by them at all (or so it seems), Cloud has the problems we all know of, Lucrecia has an extremely difficult pregnancy except becoming almost immortal afterwards, Sephiroth has physical changings such as slitcat eyes, and so on.
07-14-2005, 12:54 PM
Mercen-X

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It's because of Keith Valentine
07-14-2005, 01:18 PM
Kakashi509

Damn you sure thats his dad looks a bit off the block for vincent
07-14-2005, 02:10 PM
liamo

kieth valentine as vincent's dad? never mix those two again its a big insult to to vincent and also the reason that people think he is a vampire is cause he looks like one (with guns :/) he can shape shift sleeps in a coffin... can't hold it against them if they want to be ignorant to what he is and isn't people draw their own conclusions so leave it at that
07-15-2005, 04:37 AM
Slade

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Originally Posted by Mercen-X

It's because of Keith Valentine

:eek: Thats a guy?! Sheesh. Oh and for the record, it looks more like Quistis' dad than Vincents......heh