Warning: Logic Imminent!
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Originally Posted by annslow41
for those of u that think
--""I feel the bible is a laod of crap""--
go ahead and research it before jumping to an uneduacated conclusion based off what you hear from others.
Done and done. Now, why don't you do the same?
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from what i've found, the Bible's more solid than many history books. that's sayin something, especially since the bible's, oh, 3,000ish years old (dont start some kinda arguement -- im just using a number) while the information from the text books are prolly less than 1,000 years.
That means absolutely nothing. in fact, you'd think that the older the information, the less acurate it would be. After all, in those days, they though the world was flat, and was orbitted by the sun. And that far away places were inhabited by cyclopses and satyrs. They weren't all too bright.
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i cant say that im completely certain on the whole "religious" field, but i mean, if ya really take a look at things -- like the complexity nature -- i seems pretty impossable for it to have all just... "happened." and considering everything's designed in more or less the exact same way. ie. the structure of muscle tissue -- pretty much everything has muscle, it's all the same as in every other animal. for evolution to have happened, being that there are millions of different animals, it would have been too easy for some "mutation" to have happened and changed things arround so that it was noticably different.
Actually, ameoba don't have muscles, at least not ones similar to ours. yet they are animals, in every sense of the word. Sponges, too. Look it up. Sponges are animals.
You do not really understand the concept of evolution, or so it seems. 'Mutations' are not nessecarrily hugely noticable. Ussually it means that the creature has a marginally bigger brain, or slightly better vision, or a more efficient metabolism.
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and if you take a look at gods -- well, take a look at them.
islam's a popular belief these days: Allah - basicly what the Koran tells ya about him (after 'informing' you over and over that the book 'was not written by demons' [more or less stated that way] -- fishy?) is that he will always hate you and there's nothing that you can do to make him like you. some god... doubt he has much of a sence of humor either, lol. oh, and btw, if ya look at the "history" that this book tries to tell, you'll see 'someone' was a little off on their dates... oh, and apparently, Muhammed (was it?) rides on a flying unicorn at one point in the Koran O.o ??
Firstly, it's Mohammed. Secondly, you are an ignorant biggot. Islam actually preaches a lot of tolerance- under the medieval Arabic empire (rulers like Saladin, for example) Islamic cities contained many Jews and Christians. While, at the same time, the Christians were planning crusades and buring witches and Jews.
Thirdly, the dates in this book are no less accurate (more so, in many cases) than the Christian bible. The Arabs were rather good at keeping track of dates- they bothered to remember everything that the Greeks and Romans discovered, unlike the Europeans.
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there's also the eastern way of thinking: everyone's all just part of some "eternal force" kind of thing. we're all the same, part of the same thing, going to the same place, where eventually, after thousands of lives that you experiance, but have no reccolection of the previous ones, you will become "one" with the "eternal force," being absorbed by it or w/e, then you are nothing ... and part of it at the same time (wtf?)
Just because you cannot comprehend a philosophy, does not in anyway discredit it. Besides, it makes a much sense as 'there's a magical cloud-kingdom in the sky' (no offence meant).
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then there's the "christian" view of things. basicly telling people that we're all going to hell. BUT. god, being that he is a 'good' god, sends his son, whom we all know as "Jesus," down to earth as a sacrifice so that, merely, whoever believes that this happened will be saved from going to hell. it's not exactly a shoe-in for everyone, seeing as how you actually have to make a concious decision about the matter, but it's still pretty simple in that, really, it doesnt rule anyone out. sounds like a pretty nice guy to me O.o and historicly, i mean, u could look it up, but there isnt a scrap of real evidence disproving any of the Bible's claims. i mean, there are issues w/ this religion that i cannot explain atm, but im sure you know someone who might be able to, or be able to lead you to someone who might answer your questions.
There is, actually, much evidence that goes against the bible. For example:
Fossils
Homo Neandethalis
Homo Habbilis
Homo Erectus
Any species of australopithecus
Any species of dinosaur
Mammoth/Mastodon
Giant Sloth
Trylobite
plesiosaur
Geological
Evidence of ice-ages
Continetal drift
Rocks that pre-date the suppossed creation date (6,000 years ago)
Pre-creation craters
Astological
Big Bang radiation
Pre-creation sattelites (e.g. comets)
And so on and so forth.
The way to enter into a serious scientific debate isn't to deny that any opposing evidence is plausible, but to show where the evidence is incorrect or mis-interprated.
