Should I worry ?

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10-19-2005, 09:16 PM
Dreddz

Should I worry ?

Saddam Hussein's trial has begun, and im happy for that, he deserves the worst in My Opinion. But as his trial has begun, Im sure alot of his followers will be angry. But Im not sure if this is likely that another terrorist attack is near. If they were going to do one, wont they do it now.
What im worried about is that im heading to New York this Friday. And I dont know if I should, maybe travel on the subway, or go on a bus. I think Plane security is so high that its impossible for them to strike using that. But Subways and Buses are so easy to attack.
Anywayz, what should I be thinking......
10-19-2005, 09:20 PM
Destai

You really cant imagine how big NY is. Its unbelievable. The chances that you'll be on a plane or a particular bus that will be involved in a terrorist attack is so small. You're alot more likely to die crossing the street.
10-19-2005, 09:35 PM
jrgen

If you stay at home and wrap yourself in aluminium foil, you might stay around for a little while longer, but sooner or later, they'll get you.
10-19-2005, 10:45 PM
udsuna

Not really. Saddam's followers aren't the terrorist sort, really. They're the aristocratic loser type. Much like our own leaders (and that sweeping generalization applies almost everywhere). And the true terrorists, the ones with what it takes to die for a cause, they have a healthy contempt for Hussein & co.
10-19-2005, 11:02 PM
Dreddz

I always thought Terrorism was Saddam related. When America went after him, they took Britain with them. Then london was attacked. London was attacked for helping America capture Saddam. So it was related....
10-19-2005, 11:19 PM
DarkLadyNyara

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I always thought Terrorism was Saddam related. When America went after him, they took Britain with them. Then london was attacked. London was attacked for helping America capture Saddam. So it was related....

9-11 was not Saddam-related. Bin Laden hates the guy more than we do. The attacks aren't about Saddam, they're about the fact that the Americn troops are seen as occupiers. The Iraqi insurgents, no matter who they support, can't actually effectivly attack America. So, no, don't worry.
10-19-2005, 11:41 PM
eestlinc

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Originally Posted by Dreddz

I always thought Terrorism was Saddam related. When America went after him, they took Britain with them. Then london was attacked. London was attacked for helping America capture Saddam. So it was related....

That's what they want us to believe.
10-19-2005, 11:43 PM
nik0tine

There is nothing to worry about. Terrorism is so infrequent a problem that to actually worry about it is asanine. Thats like being hesitant to go outside because you are afraid of getting hit by lightning. Any fear of terrorism is all hype with no merit.
10-20-2005, 01:33 AM
udsuna

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Originally Posted by Dreddz

I always thought Terrorism was Saddam related. When America went after him, they took Britain with them. Then london was attacked. London was attacked for helping America capture Saddam. So it was related....

I don't know WHO told you what, but no one with any political voice ever seriously supported the theory that Saddam was directly involved in any major terrorist activities. Besides the standard "don't ask, don't tell" policy of letting terrorists hide within Iraq's borders. No, Saddam was much too busy blasting the hell out of his own people to bother with anyone else.

Besides, it shouldn't have been a matter of "taking" anyone with us. Saddam was already openly and blatently violating the ceasefire agreements that saved his hairy little ass last time. Reason enough to resume our old actions. Last time we let countries slide on something like that, it started WW2. Prudence should demand we never give ANY country the illusion that they might be able to get away with the stuff we let Germany slide on.
10-20-2005, 03:32 AM
Bahamut2000X

Ya I wouldn't worry about it, like everyone else already said, but if there's going to be an attack because of the Saddam stuff, it more then likely won't happen in America, but in Iraq, where the majority of his supporters are at, and where Saddam is, or well presumed I suppose to correctly say.

So ya, don't worry about it and have a good trip to New York. :)
10-20-2005, 10:14 AM
Cloud No.9

kee hee. there is no problem.

the baath party don't do terrorism. neither does the former iraqi army. they hardly exist anymore and right now if they do are just part of the urban geurrila war in iraq. they have no interest in terrorism.

neither do the fundamental/extremist muslim terrorist. they have no reason to be angry over this. they hated sadamme. called a jihad on him. he was a secular dictator on holy land. he fought against the pinnacle of the muslim world (iran). they would never fight for him.

they aren't annoyed at this at all. they are as happy as anyone. and it has given them the oppurtunity to make iraq an islamic state. they couldn't be happier.
10-23-2005, 12:08 AM
Dreddz

Well, Im in NYC now and nufin seems to of gone wrong, I went to the trade towers memorial site. Sad :(
10-23-2005, 12:10 AM
Cloud No.9

it is worrying how well propaganda works though. "I always thought Terrorism was Saddam related. When America went after him, they took Britain with them. Then london was attacked. London was attacked for helping America capture Saddam. So it was related...."
10-23-2005, 12:14 AM
TurkSlayer

I would hate to be Saddam's defense lawyer, personally. (Who, by the way, I heard was killed. Was that true, or just a rumor? I've been too busy to watch the news and find out) I mean, how do you win a case like that? Its nearly impossible, I would think. And you'd have a terrible reputation for the rest of your life for defending Saddam. That would be a terrible situation.
10-23-2005, 12:16 AM
Cloud No.9

you stand up and say "america also tortures people, seems like it's acceptable to me."
10-23-2005, 12:54 AM
udsuna

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Originally Posted by Cloud No.9

it is worrying how well propaganda works though.

Yeah.... creates a new respect for WW1, WW2 and the Cold War. That so many people actually BELIEVED the bull**** spoken there. On all sides.
10-23-2005, 01:34 AM
Cloud No.9

todays propaganda is still really good. what we fighting for again?
10-23-2005, 02:18 AM
DarkLadyNyara

The oil companies. Duh. :D
10-23-2005, 03:17 AM
lordblazer

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Originally Posted by Destai

You really cant imagine how big NY is. Its unbelievable. The chances that you'll be on a plane or a particular bus that will be involved in a terrorist attack is so small. You're alot more likely to die crossing the street.

lol funny story with new york city. I tripped over a rock and got trampled. Had to goto the hospital for six weeks.

sucked./ your most likely to die from that than from a terror attack.
10-23-2005, 11:19 AM
ThroneofDravaris

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Originally Posted by TurkSlayer

I would hate to be Saddam's defense lawyer, personally. (Who, by the way, I heard was killed. Was that true, or just a rumor? I've been too busy to watch the news and find out) I mean, how do you win a case like that? Its nearly impossible, I would think. And you'd have a terrible reputation for the rest of your life for defending Saddam. That would be a terrible situation.

Still, if you managed to get him off, you would go down as one of the best lawyers of all time.
10-23-2005, 02:26 PM
udsuna

If the biological weapons don't fit, you must aquit?
10-23-2005, 05:01 PM
Cloud No.9

he could just say he thought they were all al qaeda terrorists. works for the us.
10-23-2005, 06:44 PM
War Angel

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I always thought Terrorism was Saddam related.

He supported and funded terrorism... but they aren't exactly in allegiance with him. It's like when some millionaire donates money for charity - it doesn't mean he has any responsiblity over the actual institutes themselves, their operation, or anything of the sort. Saddam was like... a very evil millionaire that helped the wrong kind of organisations, that's all.

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Any fear of terrorism is all hype with no merit.

Really, that depends very much on where you're located. :)

That being said - NYC is a big fecking place, the chances of a terrorist act happening to you or even near you are so amazingly low... I'd be much more worried about being run over or hit by a vehicle, mugged, or even falling from stairs, etc.
10-23-2005, 06:48 PM
Dreddz

Im not saying this in a bad way, but NYC is so paranoid. The Empire state building had high security, The statue of liberty had high security, and Central Station, I saw an army soldier, but I dunno if that was for security. And when I mean high, I mean its like heading through Airport customs to get into these places. But I think it was worth it, and its better be safe than sorry.....
10-23-2005, 07:39 PM
Cloud No.9

i very much sadamma supported al qaeda and i've seen no evidence supporting this. i doubt al qaeda would accept money from him in the same way they would refuse money from america. they had called a jihad on him. a secular leader on muslim land. they were not the bestest of friends.
10-23-2005, 11:07 PM
Traitorfish

Saddam's sort of run out of freinds- his followers weren't the fanatical terrorist type. Once they lost, they'll all be running and hiding. After all, MR. Hussein himself was found cowering in a cellar. A mad zealot would go down fighting. Although, Bin Laden didn't, so maybe they wouldn't...
Besides, the chance of terrorism within the US are pretty smal. 9/11, though a tragedy, was a freak occurance, and was mostly due to a lapse in security. Apart from that, any major terrorists attack within the US has been by an American, such as Timothy McVeigh.
10-29-2005, 06:37 AM
Fithos Lusec WecosVinosec

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Originally Posted by Dreddz

Saddam Hussein's trial has begun, and im happy for that, he deserves the worst in My Opinion. But as his trial has begun, Im sure alot of his followers will be angry. But Im not sure if this is likely that another terrorist attack is near. If they were going to do one, wont they do it now.
What im worried about is that im heading to New York this Friday. And I dont know if I should, maybe travel on the subway, or go on a bus. I think Plane security is so high that its impossible for them to strike using that. But Subways and Buses are so easy to attack.
Anywayz, what should I be thinking......

I'm thinking that you should just go anyway, and if the terrorists actually happen to strike while your their, then thats what your fate is, and you were meant to be there for a reason. Just make sure you know where your going after this life is over, and make sure your going where you want to.
10-30-2005, 12:46 AM
Madame Adequate

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Originally Posted by Traitorfish

Saddam's sort of run out of freinds- his followers weren't the fanatical terrorist type. Once they lost, they'll all be running and hiding. After all, MR. Hussein himself was found cowering in a cellar. A mad zealot would go down fighting. Although, Bin Laden didn't, so maybe they wouldn't...

Ah, but Bin Laden managed to escape. It's not known (at least not as far as I'm aware) whether or not he has personally been in conflict with western forces, or what. Still, although it might be noble and heroic to go down fighting, he's not an idiot, and he probably recognizes his value to his objectives. Therefore there is more wisdom in escaping to continue to be able to act down the line.

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