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Because of how drastically different EoEO and General Chat have become it should be allowed to have the same thread in each forum now. Say people want to joke around and have fun with the topic but it is in EoEO? Can't do it there because of this tarded-re policy of zeroed tolorance. Make a thread that is simliar but is meant to have fun in General Chat...NO!!!!!! NAZITIME! Close the thread. Direct people to the one that is already created and they make a wise crack and get banned!@?Rlfkj WHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I think we should be able to dual wield threads in General Chat and Eyes on Enormous Ovaries!

the whole thing makes my head hurt. we should just spin off EoEO into a different board.

or just pick the right forum to begin with

That is the thing. They are both the right forum. It depends on the person. Let us take the thread about aids. There is room for serious discussion as well as crazy ass off the wall ideas.

How did he cure it. With a shrink gun and the british army of course *goes into retarded story*

Then there all the serious stuff that is actually being said. Everything has a serious side and a humours side to it.

Sometimes rules don't make sense, but you must accept them because you have agreed to the social contract.

PFFFT! My contract expired 23.45 years ago!

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Say people want to joke around and have fun with the topic but it is in EoEO? Can't do it there because of this tarded-re policy of zeroed tolorance.

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If you consider flaming a practical and humoerous joke to the rest of the EoFF, then yeah, you're right.

My assumption is that you're talking about the "Man cures himself of HIV" thread. I didnt ask for that thread to be closed, I wanted to follow what Big D suggested and try to 'mold' if you will, GC into a place where it wasnt a 100% spam fest as it currently is now. I was wrong, and now the only place to have a somewhat decent discussion is in EoEO. I wasnt expecting full blown answers to that thread, but something on topic, but that obviously isnt possible.

Im not 'dissing' spam, as I do it myself occasionaly (...frequently) but its sorta stupid where we cant have even one educated thread in GC and have to resort in EoEO. I believe the problem is in GC, not in EoEO.

A thread about AIDS in GC is going to get closed sooner than later any way you look at it. I can't see what type of crazy ass off the wall ideas you can post anywhere without it being closed.

EDIT: I agree with you 100%, Hawkeye. There used to be a time when that thread would have been fine in GC, but not with today's calibur of posters and posting.

That was just an example because it is current. Another example of fun stuff that is a bit more realistic would be the french riots.

If the problem is that GC is just way too spammy and you can't have a middle ground then maybe it is time for a spam type forum. So that way you can have the retarded zero tolorance policy and the equally retarded spam spam everywhere policy.

Also if you where ever looking for a decent dicussion in General Chat you must have never been in the right frame of mind. That is what EoEO is for. For serious dicussion. Why do you need 2 forums that accomplish the exact same thing?

Your thread was only screwed up because of a troll, Hawkeye. Other than him it looked like it would have been an okay thread. I certainly wouldn't have posted spam in it, as I don't when Big D makes serious GC threads. Although quite why that troll isn't banned is beyond me. Oh well, those things aren't for me to decide. :roll:

How are the French riots fun?

That's what I'd like to know, Yams. How you have a thread in GC that is bound to get spammed up on any serious topic? I do not like what has become of GC. Used to be you could still have a decent thread in there on serious or non-serious stuff, but not anymore. It's impossible. The only way to make it possible is to ban quite a few members.

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Originally Posted by Yamaneko

How are the French riots fun?

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You can

Make fun of the french
Make fun of riots in general
Be like south park
Be like the late show

There are a million ways to have fun with any sort of news article. Let me go home a build a lego empire of riots for to show you how much fun it can be! There are lots of ways to have fun. Don't blame me for your short sightness in the fun department.

Here is a question. Why not have a spam forum then? Because it will spread to other forums?!?! Isn't that why you have the zero crapulance rule in place? Then those people can do their spam and you can have chit-chat back and keep your eyes on emo obstacles forum!

Maybe when I get home I will build a Nazi death-camp out of legos and make a thread about it. It will have the little ovens and everything.

and you'll post it in GC.

This is obviously our way of cutting down on spam.

Watch:

a child posts a thread on something serious. It goes into EoEo, and thus, it can't be discussed lightly for a couple of months, at which point it passes into oblivion in eoeo, and is fair game for GC.

This is your staff, temporarily forbidding spamming on subjects one thread at a time!

[edit- I made all that up, btw, we aren't *that* mean! Yet.]

Here is a question. Why not have a spam forum then? Because it will spread to other forums?!?! Isn't that why you have the zero crapulance rule in place? Then those people can do their spam and you can have chit-chat back and keep your eyes on emo obstacles forum! - ed

Zero crapulance in one forum does not mean that it gets free reign in the rest. If everyone would just use their brain before posting all would be well. No Spam Forum. Why would be make a whole forum for something that we're trying to get rid of? Having it's own forum will just bring it out more. Look what happened after usernotes were introduced. Instead of bringing spam down it has increased it. Give someone an inch and they want the whole ruler.

For our European members: Give someone a centimeter and they'll take a kilometer.

If you want to be accurate, rename EoEO "General Chat" and rename General Chat "The Internet is 99.99% Crap and Here's Proof".

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Originally Posted by Dr Unne

If you want to be accurate, rename EoEO "General Chat" and rename General Chat "The Internet is 99.99% Crap and Here's Proof".

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I would seriously push for this for a week or even a day.

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Originally Posted by Leeza

The only way to make it possible is to ban quite a few members.

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You know, I've never enjoyed banning members, but if it will make EoFF a better place I generally slide that way. Maybe we should just ban every member who spams once. I would take this seriously if I hadn't spammed before. Maybe. But it's always a nice little daydream, banning people for lack of quality contribution.

I'm sure there are forums that do a lot of banning for lack of quality contribution, BoB.

You could at the very least ban people for being disruptive. How in the world did this not result in a ban? Unless it did and I can't tell?

I was just made aware of that Unne. It has been dealt with.

Now that's timing.

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Originally Posted by Dr Unne

You could at the very least ban people for being disruptive. How in the world did this not result in a ban? Unless it did and I can't tell?

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That one was my fault, I was at school when I got to it and didn't have a lot of time to do more than just skim the posts.

I think the Staff does a good job considering that most of us are doing the job from school or work. Sometimes things get missed, but everything is good in the end.

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Originally Posted by Dr Unne

You could at the very least ban people for being disruptive. How in the world did this not result in a ban? Unless it did and I can't tell?

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yea, I noticed that today and we took action.

I pointed it out before Unne did in this thread. I said he should've been banned in post #10! Why are you all quoting his post and revering him like a god and not me? Now I feel inferior and ignored and intelligent and I just can't take all this abuse. :(

I'm leaving for Fool's Gold where my troll-spotting talents will be appreciated!

Your post didn't have a link in it, Psy. You have to make life easy for Staff. :)

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

I pointed it out before Unne did in this thread. I said he should've been banned in post #10! Why are you all quoting his post and revering him like a god and not me? Now I feel inferior and ignored and intelligent and I just can't take all this abuse. :(

I'm leaving for Fool's Gold where my troll-spotting talents will be appreciated!

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actually, your post is what made me investigate it further. I found the thread on my own.

I think we need to thin out the herd a little. I'm slowly building my repuation and influence with the staff to the point where I can do so with little or no reversal or reprimand. It will be Super Delete's finest hour.

if we make this place suck enough then a bunch of people will leave and then we can invite all the cool people back.

I think trying to make it suck will backfire on you, eest. They'll love it even more. :)

Oh, unless you mean suck as in banning, etc.

The cancer angle. Yeah, I've thought about that too.

calamity from the skies!

I should probably point out that this is the Feedback Forum and not the Staff Forum, but you guys look like you're having so much fun. So yeah, this is totally the Staff Forum. Uh...ban newbies...kill spammers...Hail Satan...etc.

What EoFF needs to do is be stricter on the spam that's going on. Might I say that some of it can amusing, but there's too much of it at the moment. In fact, it's horrible. Of course, there isn't a spam forum, but having a spam forum will make things worse. Believe me. If there is one, it will be filled with complete crap that it will go out of control.

So, what does the staff need to do is to get more strict on the spam that's going on in General Chat. What constitutes as spam? We don't know, but I trust the staff will be able to draw the line of what is considered spam. I'm sure that in-thread conversations can be considered spam, posts that would be more suited to PMs, usernotes, and/or IMs, and such.

I'm sure that there will be time to have fun spam, but those should be a once in awhile moments, not a daily thing like it is at the moment. That was the magic back then, we hardly had much spam, and once in awhile, spam happens, and it's special because it doesn't happen very often. Nowadays, it's spam every day 24/7. Why? Because the staff has gone lax on it. Deleting posts will not work, banning people won't either. If you want to slow down the spam, then delete General Chat, (besides some of the important threads or current threads you want to keep), and start over. With the removal of the threads, yes, there will be repeats of the threads, but the staff should be able to now control the spam and get more strict, now that almost all the spam is gone. Yes, this is risky business, and I'm in no way saying you should do this, but if you want to control the spam and keep everything in order, deleting and restarting General Chat will be a good way to start being more strict.

Deleting does not work, Proto. If you could only see the number of deletions you would know this. The only cure is to ban someone once you tell them that that is what will happen to them the next time they do what they were asked not to do. This is a lot easier said than done though because I really don't like to ban people, but sometimes it just has to be done for the good of all.

EDIT: I misread that. :) You said Delete GC and start over. Yeah, that might work. :)

Of course, I also stated deleting posts and banning people will not work. It's a good thing you've already explained why deleting posts won't work, so I can try to explain why banning people won't work. One reason: Second Accounts.

Restarting General Chat, while keeping some of the current and important threads, will be your best bet to control the spam. The members may not like it, but EoFF needs to get rid of the nonsense. If the staff wants to consider this, I suggest that you guys start archiving some of the threads you want to keep forever.

the solution to GC isn't having less bad threads, it's having more good threads. You have to make them. Everyone should spend more time thinking up good GC threads and less time complaining about how much GC sucks. If you can't come up with any good threads, then I guess that's a problem.

But the ratio of bad threads to good threads is getting out of hand. Big D is the only noticable person I believe who is trying to work from the "good threads" side. If the number of "bad threads" were toned down a bit, maybe good threads would get noticed better, than having to resort to another forum.

Maybe

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Of course, I also stated deleting posts and banning people will not work. It's a good thing you've already explained why deleting posts won't work, so I can try to explain why banning people won't work. One reason: Second Accounts.

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey (Dahmer?)[/quote

Restarting General Chat, while keeping some of the current and important threads, will be your best bet to control the spam. The members may not like it, but EoFF needs to get rid of the nonsense. If the staff wants to consider this, I suggest that you guys start archiving some of the threads you want to keep forever.

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What, exactly, would deleting the whole of General Chat achieve? Great, the old spam is gone, and that's all very well and good, but which of these two scenarios do you honestly believe is the more likely:

Scenario A: Spammers, upon seeing the deletion of General Chat, have a revelation. Spam is not tolerated! They have seen the light! Spam is now a dirty word at EoFF, and the ex-spammers all go on to become legendary Cid's Knights.
Scenario B: Old spam gets replaced by new spam. Whoa-ho, problematic!

The problem is that spammers are glorified. A lot of the members think that spam is cool, and that being a spammer is a cool thing, and they all want to get in on the act and look damned cool! Who wouldn't? And therein lies your problem. Spam for the sake of spam or trying to look cool is invariably inferior to spam for the sake of personal enjoyment.

Then perhaps we need to sticky a thread in General Chat made by you saying spamming sucks, oh glorified 2nd placed to Del king of spam

However, deleting old spam wouldnt be half bad to be fairly honest

I'm no tool of the staff or of you, whorekeye! And no I'm actually the Spam Princess and you'd do well to remember that. (self-proclaimed, no less)

I can't see what's good about deleting old spam, although that's not to say there's anything wrong with doing that either.

Also, I like General Chat how it is.

That's because the staff can't do anything with the current spam. But oh, when GC starts over, they can, because they'll be able to implement whatever new rule about spamming into place, because they won't have thousands of threads to worry about.

i'm telling, you all you spent half as much time coming up with thread topics in GC that you do complaining in feedback threads, your good threads would drown out the garbage.

Clearly the members that do post in GC are posting the kinds of threads they want to read and post in. They are being successful in building GC in their desired image. If you have a different desired image, go make it!

Never doubt that a few committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, its the only thing that ever has.

Something like that

To kill a snake you have to cut off the head.
Or several cuts along the body untill people get the idea that more than they'll miss out on is their usernote bull, which is what gets them all horny for spam in the first place, by spamming and doing whatever they want. Either one would probably work. The head one would be a lot less work though! :eek:

I suppose if we want to stop trolls we'd need to kick them square in the nuts.
I don't spam as much as I used to or as much as people seem to think I do, but thanks for the compliment babe. As for user notes making people want to spam more, I could not agree with you more. Yep, user note regulars like Hawkeye and kikimm, and even Leeza these days are spamming EoFF to death. Curse those user notes, it is clearly all their fault! :eek:

Also I think I've found a way to pin advertising threads on user notes, in case you all wanted an excuse to whine about them some more.

it's about time Kane picked on someone who is not such an easy target.

Psychotic's not an easy target? He practically begs to be targetted.

i mean he's capable of defending himself.

It's funny Raist would say such a thing.

Hey, I practically beg to be targetted, too. :D

Especially with that new avatar. I'm sure you'll be practically targetted by horny boys.

First stages of teenage menopause

raist's new avatar makes his location funnier.

I've already gotten three marriage proposals. I had to turn off PMs.

And the cycle continues...

This thread depresses me :cry:

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Originally Posted by edczxcvbnm

You can

Make fun of the french
Make fun of riots in general
Be like south park
Be like the late show

There are a million ways to have fun with any sort of news article. Let me go home a build a lego empire of riots for to show you how much fun it can be! There are lots of ways to have fun. Don't blame me for your short sightness in the fun department.

Here is a question. Why not have a spam forum then? Because it will spread to other forums?!?! Isn't that why you have the zero crapulance rule in place? Then those people can do their spam and you can have chit-chat back and keep your eyes on emo obstacles forum!

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I always heard the French were a riot.

Wiping GC has been done before and to my knowledge it only encouraged spam. Maybe I'm remembering a different clean slate than you are. Either way, deleting GC is NOT something I would be going for, because a lot of those threads are good for reference. I'm happy that we no longer do mass deletions because I've lost so many threads in the past.

Yeah, Psy's not a huge problem these days as far as I know.

There's something I think a lot of people are missing out on, and that's that the problem doesn't always lie in the quality of threads but the quality of replies. About a month ago I went through 100 threads and noticed that all the threads that would have been closed in previous times of EoFF were closed, and all the others had some valid topic. The problem didn't lie in the threads being made, but rather the manner in which people spammed up the valid threads.

My preferred solution: Warn on first offence, usernote ban on second offence, final warning on third offence. Obviously the ol' ban comes after that. I remember HOORJ and how s/he got warned numerous times, said s/he'd stop numerous times and then carried on numerous times. Got banned, right? Yeah. I don't see why we can't do that again if people are doing the same thing.

Spat is still complaining about HOORJ to this day because of all the "flack" he took for it, thing is, there will always be spam, I agree that too much is bad (really bad and annoying) and some of the spam is in poor taste and quality. The thing is, as a "spammer" I hardly have that many posts, and I've only spammed three of four times, yet I am classified as a spammer by many of the newer members and those I have gotten to know well in my short time here. Some proper spam should still be allowed (with limitations) but the useless short posts in bad taste or simply without substance that many people still post (like my post at the top of the page).

As Psy said, you should spam for the personal enjoyment (or boredom/lack of sleep) of it not to look cool etc. Although I find spamming to make me look like a total tool/idiot to be equally enjoyable :D however the current amount of spam that's arround is pretty annoying, the good threads quickly fall to the bottom while simple two or three word reply threads survive on.

But it's not the quality in GC that's the worst, nor is it feedback, that now has really improved since I was drunk tanked (not as a result but as a general observation) and you made the rules stricter. But the X-2 forum, I know I don't NEED to go there but it's a great way to release stress, either way the quality of some of the FF boards really is down and that brings more low quality replies.

It seems quite simple really, low quality threads and posts bring more low quality threads and posts, and while you can try to limit this the best solution would be to stop complaining about it and try to bring more high quality posts and threads into GC to promote this sort of posting. :twocents:

Also, the fact that there are no post counts should help the quality...

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Originally Posted by Primus Inter Pares

Spat is pretty annoying :D

Also, the fact that there are no post counts should help the quality...

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Muhaha you know it SPAM! :joey:

Edit: I really didn't need to quote PiP's long schnitzel.

Now you're going to have to go into rehab. for about a hundred years, PiP. In celebration of your first ever non-spam post. How odd that it should be about spam! :grinpink:

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Originally Posted by Dr Unne

If you want to be accurate, rename EoEO "General Chat" and rename General Chat "The Internet is 99.99% Crap and Here's Proof".

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I read this far in the thread and stopped...because this is all that needs to be said.

HOLY ! This stupid thread is up to 3 pages? You damn spammers ;)

Let me put it this way:

If I spammed your thread, you were probably asking for it.

As for the same topic in both forums, I’m all for this. Hell, I might end up with fewer EoEO bans this way…

…maybe.

Spam is bad but in a good way :joey:

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Originally Posted by ThroneofDravaris

Let me put it this way:

If I spammed your thread, you were probably asking for it.

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Let me put it this way:

If I ban you, you were probably asking for it.

Don't spam up threads, ToD, you'll get a banning pretty fast with that kind of attitude.

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Originally Posted by smittenkitten

Spam is bad but in a good way :joey:

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Damn that is hot. Stop turning me on :eek: :love: :kiss: :-[ ;) :D

Excessive spammers should be warned and then banned. Hopefully people will get the message.

Also, in these cases I think it is best to lead by example.

If "today's calibur of posters" are the problem, why not turn off new registrations and start banning them? Personally, I don't think it's the calibur, I think it's the age. I also think "today's calibur of posters" are the only ones stupid enough to even read the ads.

I read everyone's posts. Even if they are trolling, spam or just downright obnoxious. I didn't come here to get insightful intellectual conversations though. I came here to have fun.

There is definitely an age consideration. I think people who say the 'magic' is gone are people who have just gotten too old to enjoy message boards like they used to. I have no data to back this up, though.

That's actually a really interesting observation, Del, and at least for me, the only post really worth remembering from this thread.

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Originally Posted by Del Murder

There is definitely an age consideration. I think people who say the 'magic' is gone are people who have just gotten too old to enjoy message boards like they used to. I have no data to back this up, though.

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I've always been of the same opinion, not so much with age but with how long they've been here. You'll find that people who grow bitter of this place are the same people who don't get to know new people and just watch their friends go away while not picking up new ones. They also probably see the repeated threads a lot more negatively. I've always tried to get to know new people - not every one of them, but always some of them - as they come in. There's also the celebrity factor. That's when you join, you can talk about your private life openly with everyone here, because it's nothing to do with them. However, as time goes by, the things you want to talk about are to do with the friends you've picked up from here, and you can't talk as openly about your private life as you once could. I'm a good example of this last bit. When I first joined, I could talk about my girl troubles because nobody in the forums knew the girls. Now I have girl problems with well known members of these forums, and it's not so easy to talk about it.

I'm one of those people. I don't see myself as bitter, just bored sometimes. I need something to occupy me. ;) And I don't want to get to know new people. There are still enough cool people here to keep me entertained.

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I'm one of those people. I don't see myself as bitter, just bored sometimes. I need something to occupy me. ;) And I don't want to get to know new people. There are still enough cool people here to keep me entertained.

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I hope you realise the one true thing holding you back from having more to occupy you is the fact that you say you'll add the pimp smiley if you get such an occupation. :mad2:

I cannot hide my true intentions.

I know what I'll be leaving out of YOUR admin permissions.

:mad2:

Once Yams becomes admin, the Rise of the Pimp shall begin!

I have at least as much fun here now as I did back in the day, and it was fun back then too.

Because I disappeared for a fair few long stretches of time, most of the regulars now are completely unknown to me, which is probably for the best too XD But yeah, the only way I can even stand this place is to randomly fly in, make a post or two in threads that catch my interest again, and then disappear, like a wrinkly ninja. I used to post like, 50+ times a day, and now I struggle to make 5, and most of those come in feedback or the site staff forums.

Woah, I'm eestlinc now?

Aren't we all?

lucky dogs

Nah, I'm actually much hotter and sexually loose.

true story

Damn straight

Personally, I find myself coming here less because of all these crap threads. I say we completely get rid of General Chat for a couple weeks. If that doesn't work, shut down the boards for two weeks. That should make people realize that if they don't start posting with a little dignity, the boards will be gone (for them). Or we could ban every member who has a name longer than ten letters. (That's just random, I don't have anything against names with 10+ letters. :)

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Originally Posted by Del Mordor

Personally, I find myself coming here less because of all these crap threads. I say we completely get rid of General Chat for a couple weeks. If that doesn't work, shut down the boards for two weeks. That should make people realize that if they don't start posting with a little dignity, the boards will be gone (for them). Or we could ban every member who has a name longer than ten letters. (That's just random, I don't have anything against names with 10+ letters. :)

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Or alternatively, ban three members.

The current state of general chat right this moment, really does make me sad, it's over a small thing as spam, spam can be good, but really spam is the worst thing that can happen to a forum. The only thing those who shall remain unnamed have running for em is that they aren't trolling. If you're going to make more than 5 posts in a thread and then keep posting with only two other people this shouldn't be accepted withing such a short period of time in such a large forum.

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If you're going to make more than 5 posts in a thread and then keep posting with only two other people this shouldn't be accepted withing such a short period of time in such a large forum.

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But then you couldn't have threads like this.

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Originally Posted by Primus Inter Pares

Or alternatively, ban three members.

The current state of general chat right this moment, really does make me sad, it's over a small thing as spam, spam can be good, but really spam is the worst thing that can happen to a forum. The only thing those who shall remain unnamed have running for em is that they aren't trolling. If you're going to make more than 5 posts in a thread and then keep posting with only two other people this shouldn't be accepted withing such a short period of time in such a large forum.

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If you mean who I think you mean, then I think they're just excited about the Ciddies, and have decided the best way to win Ciddies is to spam a lot so people notice them.

Therefore, we can conclude it is all the Ciddies' fault, and so therefore Award Guy's fault, and so therefore Loony BoB's fault, and that we should ban Loony BoB, which is something I've been recommending for a while now. Wish you'd listened to me now, don't you? :cool:

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But then you couldn't have threads like this.

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That thread had more than 3 people in it, pictures and a general tone of quality spam about it. Comparing it to the current abominations in Gen Chat that come about when Shoden, Alive-Man and GunbladeMaster posts is an insult to everyone that posted in that thread.

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That thread had more than 3 people in it, pictures and a general tone of quality spam about it. Comparing it to the current abominations in Gen Chat that come about when Shoden, Alive-Man and GunbladeMaster posts is an insult to everyone that posted in that thread.

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AND it was oldbie spam, thus making it legal, funny, and witty. :D

We can ban every non-staff member who has the letter a in their name, or whose name ends in oden. Or both.

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We can ban every non-staff member who has the letter a in their name, or whose name ends in oden. Or both.

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AEXODEN! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Don't worry pssy, aex's name is really spelt with some weird combination ae letter! like Aesop!

How about you guys that despair over spam go post some neat thought provoking threads:]

aexoden doesn't post anyway.

Hmm, forgot about Aexoden. Fine, how about ending in hoden?

Quit the digs, guys. Some of us find your spam to be just as crap as theirs, I assure you. :) And I also assure you that there are definitely more than just 1-3 members that have crap spam in EoFF. Also, most of the spammers seem to be picking up dislikes for each other... I can sort of see this film plot unwinding. A bit like some kind of gang war, where there's this one big gang, along with a few smaller gangs and a couple of individuals who are all trying to make it in the world of the bigger gangs. And then there's this crime squad, who are given the job of not just getting the gang wars to go away, but also the job of getting the gangsters to turn straight, and all the while they have to do it with minimum casualties on both sides. I got popcorn.

I urinate on your theory by stating I dislike no EoFF spammer except Loony BoB. (Apparently he won Best Spammer Ciddie)

Also the "crime squad" are all corrupt.

Spoken like a typical gangster.

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Quit the digs, guys. Some of us find your spam to be just as crap as theirs, I assure you. :) And I also assure you that there are definitely more than just 1-3 members that have crap spam in EoFF. Also, most of the spammers seem to be picking up dislikes for each other... I can sort of see this film plot unwinding. A bit like some kind of gang war, where there's this one big gang, along with a few smaller gangs and a couple of individuals who are all trying to make it in the world of the bigger gangs. And then there's this crime squad, who are given the job of not just getting the gang wars to go away, but also the job of getting the gangsters to turn straight, and all the while they have to do it with minimum casualties on both sides. I got popcorn.

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Haven't you seen The Untouchables? Nearly the entire crime squad dies. That can't be good for somebody. :(

it's like Hamlet where Fortinbras rolls into a castle full of dead people.

IIRC:

"What happened here?"
"Oh, everyone died."
"Cool, I'll take over."

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Azar With A Hat

Haven't you seen The Untouchables? Nearly the entire crime squad dies. That can't be good for somebody. :(

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Some will rise out of the ashes and a new order may be formed, alliances changed, the gangsters will however continue to entertain until this time, and as the new order rises...

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We will all make jokes about Francis Begbie.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Primus Inter Pares

We will all make jokes about Francis Begbie.

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What happened to that wonderful creature? I cannot remember. :(

He became so dense that he couldn't keep himself afloat, thus was banned.

EDIT: There, now that joke is awesome.

This is ed's best thread--ever. No doubt.

It's because it's in caps.

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Suitable.