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12-08-2005, 07:20 PM
Miriel

Paid subscription

I will pay cash to get a bigger PM storage space. Serious.

I've had paid subscriptions to at least 3 other forums, deviantART, Livejournal, and even a freakin' XANGA (which happens to be the most detestable form of web-blogging, just in case anyone was wondering). And I don't use any of these sites nearly as much as I use EoFF.

It would be great if you guys could have some sort of paid option for EoFF. The benefits for both the site and the members are obvious. I've heard that Cid has to be the one to ok all this, but I thought I'd make a thread about this before I hunt him down and nag until he gives in.

And also, the description for the FFXI forum is lame.
12-08-2005, 07:22 PM
Primus Inter Pares

Download all Private Messages as :
XML | CSV | Text

Can't you just do that?
12-08-2005, 07:23 PM
Miriel

I dislike deleting PMs at all. Downloading them just isn't the same.
12-08-2005, 07:26 PM
Primus Inter Pares

It's just one click away, but I know what you mean.
12-08-2005, 07:27 PM
Miriel

Sometimes, when I have to delete them, I die a little inside. :(
12-08-2005, 07:27 PM
Psychotic

omg liek paid users can have a SECRET FORUM and liek they can haff COLOURED CUSTOM TITLES!!!

I don't know why I typed that in idiot-speak, but it seemed like a good idea at the time.
12-08-2005, 07:28 PM
Miriel

All I want is the PM space.

Hell, I paid like $30 on Allakhazam just to use their search function.
12-08-2005, 07:30 PM
Primus Inter Pares

The alternative is to sleep with BoB or RSL.
12-08-2005, 07:32 PM
Old Manus

Sign up to EoFF Pro now and recieve free member porn
12-08-2005, 07:33 PM
Yamaneko

Yeah, Cid has to approve this. There's no real debate here, except maybe what the incentives would be in exchange for the subscription cost. I recommend a little star next to your username.
12-08-2005, 07:37 PM
Endless

I approve of this idea.
12-08-2005, 07:44 PM
-N-

I'm sure EoFF has no problem suckering fools out of their money.
12-08-2005, 08:03 PM
Primus Inter Pares

http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=72676
12-08-2005, 08:16 PM
Shlup

You pay for stupid stuff. Give me your money so I can spend it on better things.
12-08-2005, 08:19 PM
escobert

Yeah I was thinking that xD
12-08-2005, 08:51 PM
Miriel

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShlupQuack

You pay for stupid stuff. Give me your money so I can spend it on better things.

Dude, I offered to photograph your wedding for free. Time is money! :p
12-08-2005, 09:03 PM
Kawaii Ryûkishi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miriel

web-blogging
12-08-2005, 09:06 PM
Shlup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miriel

Dude, I offered to photograph your wedding for free. Time is money! :p

This is true.
12-08-2005, 11:32 PM
RSL

We have discussed this before, but Cid never gave his input on the whole deal. As Cid is the one who would benefit from this, it is totally his call.
12-08-2005, 11:42 PM
MecaKane

Get an instant messenger program.
12-08-2005, 11:48 PM
eestlinc

We've been thinking about this and discussing for a while, so maybe it will happen. BoB will love this thread, at least.
12-08-2005, 11:50 PM
Yamaneko

Why would anybody in their right mind need so much PM space? It's not like more than 3% is thought-provoking, serious discussion.
12-08-2005, 11:53 PM
Shlup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamaneko

Why would anybody in their right mind need so much PM space? It's not like more than 3% is thought-provoking, serious discussion.

That's neither here nor there.
12-09-2005, 12:00 AM
Rye

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psychotic

omg liek paid users can have a SECRET FORUM and liek they can haff COLOURED CUSTOM TITLES!!!

I don't know why I typed that in idiot-speak, but it seemed like a good idea at the time.

But yeah, extra PM space would be awesome.
12-09-2005, 12:05 AM
theundeadhero

Heaven forbid you have to do something to earn the extra space. Let's solve this problem with money!
12-09-2005, 12:15 AM
Miriel

Quote:

Originally Posted by theundeadhero

Heaven forbid you have to do something to earn the extra space. Let's solve this problem with money!

It's just a suggestion, not like they have to implement it if they don't want to. =/
12-09-2005, 12:18 AM
kikimm

I don't see any negatives. I know the limited PM space really annoyed me before; it's seriously nothing and gets filled up so quickly.

But yeah, like you already knew, and like everyone else has already said, Cid's decision. We'll bully him into agreeing!
12-09-2005, 12:19 AM
theundeadhero

Sorry for the sarcasm. It it came around I would pay for it.
12-09-2005, 12:38 AM
-N-

I have extra PM space and I still delete stuff.
12-09-2005, 12:39 AM
Yamaneko

How much do RMs get?

EDIT: Haha, I forgot I could check myself. :D

EDIT2: They get the same.
12-09-2005, 12:42 AM
-N-

Could you tell me what it is when you do? :D
12-09-2005, 12:46 AM
Yamaneko

1000, same as registered members.
12-09-2005, 12:52 AM
RSL

Oh wow that sucks.
12-09-2005, 01:13 AM
-N-

Well it's a good thing I delete them then, I suppose. :p

Anyways, back to agreeing with everyone about how people who are willing to pay for extra PM storage deserve to have their money stripped away from them.
12-09-2005, 01:19 AM
RSL

If this were to happen, the money would go to Cid to help pay for the EoFF server costs. It would be like a donation, only you get a small reward in return.
12-09-2005, 01:29 AM
Raistlin

Wait, RMs only get 1000 now? Back when I was RM, we had unlimited space. At least, once staff also got unlimited space.
12-09-2005, 02:19 AM
rubah

I'm thinking about taking out a bet on how fast rsl can fill up that 'unlimited' space.
12-09-2005, 03:02 AM
MecaKane

1000?
1000 is too little?
Holy crap!
12-09-2005, 05:18 AM
Del Murder

I think if there is a demand for it, then there should be no reason not to impliment it. Any visible indication that a person has a paid account would be bad, since it breeds elitisim, but otherwise it would be cool. Sean can use the money to fund the site when revenue gets low, or perhaps run a contest or something. The problem is getting his attention.
12-09-2005, 12:29 PM
Psychotic

I deleted every PM I had, and within a week I was back up to 1000 again. I want a "delete every PM in inbox and sent items!" button instead of all this ticking business. That'd be of more use than infinite PMs.
12-09-2005, 12:45 PM
crono_logical

In the mean time, how about I increase the PM limit to 2500 for members? :p
12-09-2005, 05:51 PM
Raistlin

No! We must make the regular members suffer the fate of a mere 1000 PM limit!
12-09-2005, 05:59 PM
Psychotic

Isn't having to suffer you and your delirious rantings punishment enough?
12-09-2005, 06:51 PM
Raistlin

Probably, but you can never be too careful.
12-09-2005, 07:08 PM
MecaKane

For $5 a month you can foreward me and have me store up to 900 PMs.
Now that's a good deal!
12-09-2005, 07:24 PM
Samuraid

Quote:

Originally Posted by cl_out

In the mean time, how about I increase the PM limit to 2500 for members? :p

If you do, don't forget SS and SSS as we are bound to 1000 PM limits as well. :)
12-09-2005, 07:39 PM
Primus Inter Pares

That's gotta suck.

EDIT: Drunk tanks only get 350 ;_;
12-09-2005, 07:42 PM
Raistlin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Primus Inter Pares

EDIT: Drunk tanks only get 350 ;_;

Really? When did that happen? Last time I was drunk tanked, I had a 1000 PM limit, IIRC.
12-09-2005, 08:26 PM
Primus Inter Pares

Yeah, I noticed it when I was drunk tanked for quite awhile, annoying.
12-09-2005, 08:46 PM
escobert

My entire time at EoFF I've saved every PM I've ever sent or recived and I'm only at 300 and something xD. JUST DELETE THEM.
12-09-2005, 08:55 PM
Endless

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy Toppeldauer McLarentwitz

Really? When did that happen? Last time I was drunk tanked, I had a 1000 PM limit, IIRC.

Last time I was DTed, I had 350 too, which was a pain, I had to delete old PMs in order to PM BoB.
12-09-2005, 09:32 PM
crono_logical

*changes DT to 1000, and SS/SSS to more since they're staff and should have more* :p
12-09-2005, 09:35 PM
Primus Inter Pares

"a total 1024 allowed."

Nice even number there.
12-09-2005, 09:38 PM
Raistlin

WOAH, why am I allowed only 1000 now? Is it because, for some reason, I'm still in No Sig? I still have the FS title, though. =o
12-09-2005, 09:40 PM
Cruise Control

I delete mine the second I respond to them. I hate wasting space.
12-09-2005, 09:46 PM
Old Manus

283 is the only amount of PMs needed

Until I reach 284
12-09-2005, 09:50 PM
MecaKane

Quote:

Originally Posted by Primus Inter Pares

"a total 1024 allowed."

Nice even number there.

Two to the power of ten.
12-09-2005, 09:56 PM
Samuraid

Quote:

Originally Posted by cl_out

*changes DT to 1000, and SS/SSS to more since they're staff and should have more* :p

Thanks. :D
12-09-2005, 10:34 PM
Cruise Control

I haven't gotten a PM in a few months, so I don't know if this is new or not, but the empty folder thing kicks so much ass it's not funny.
12-10-2005, 12:21 AM
Yamaneko

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy Toppeldauer McLarentwitz

WOAH, why am I allowed only 1000 now? Is it because, for some reason, I'm still in No Sig? I still have the FS title, though. =o

You're one of those people in a secondary group.
12-10-2005, 12:35 AM
Raistlin

Well then take me out of it already. :p
12-10-2005, 03:12 AM
Yamaneko

:up:
12-10-2005, 03:22 AM
Raistlin

yay
12-10-2005, 04:10 AM
RSL

booo
12-10-2005, 04:45 AM
Raistlin

You know you love the pimp, RSL. After Christmas, maybe someone will pimp out your pirate avatar.
12-10-2005, 04:59 AM
Resha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psychotic

I deleted every PM I had, and within a week I was back up to 1000 again. I want a "delete every PM in inbox and sent items!" button instead of all this ticking business. That'd be of more use than infinite PMs.

You don't need to tick. There's an "Empty Folder" thing at the top that clears everything in the inbox and/or sent messages thing respectively. O_O
12-10-2005, 05:40 AM
Raistlin

Haha, Psycho's dumb.

Anyway, just a question: why 65535? That seems like such an arbitrary number to correspond to "infinite."
12-10-2005, 06:07 AM
Del Murder

2^16 = 65536. I'm sure that has something to do with it.
12-10-2005, 08:43 AM
Miriel

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSL

We have discussed this before, but Cid never gave his input on the whole deal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Del Murder

The problem is getting his attention.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eestlinc

We've been thinking about this and discussing for a while, so maybe it will happen.

*IMs Cid*

Result:
Cid: Okay, I'll probably do it. Right now is just a bad time for me to set it up though.
Cid: Remind me in a couple days.
Miriel: ok, just wanted to bring your attention to it
Cid: Sure, thanks.

Man, were you guys just not trying? :P
12-10-2005, 08:57 AM
crono_logical

Yeah, 65535 is the vB limit :p
12-10-2005, 10:10 AM
Samuraid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Del Murder

2^16 = 65536. I'm sure that has something to do with it.

65536 = 64K = 2 Bytes = mysql smallint(5) unsigned datatype = what vB uses for PM count. :D

Absolutely correct. Very good observation. :)
12-10-2005, 10:35 AM
Roogle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miriel

Man, were you guys just not trying? :P

I think they just assumed that he would eventually look at the thread. Please remember to follow up with your query in a few days' time.
12-10-2005, 12:38 PM
theundeadhero

Quote:

*changes DT to 1000, and SS/SSS to more since they're staff and should have more*

I worked so hard and was so so close to maxing out my 1000 too :P

Now it will take another two years!
12-10-2005, 01:27 PM
RSL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miriel

Man, were you guys just not trying? :P

Yeah, I wasn't gonna IM cid. But good job!
12-10-2005, 04:28 PM
Raistlin

It's pretty sad when the members have to do the Staff's job! You admins are no-good and lazy. :p
12-10-2005, 04:38 PM
Primus Inter Pares

Well, now that they have Yams...
12-10-2005, 05:57 PM
Raistlin

They're slightly better than "no-good," but even lazier.
12-10-2005, 07:04 PM
Miriel

I said I would hunt him down and nag him, so I did.

I think it turned out to be more productive than all those times I spent nagging Yamaneko. Although I don't think it's cause Yamaneko is lazy, he's just spiteful and hates me.
12-10-2005, 07:10 PM
Raistlin

Oh, he's lazy. He's Mr. I'll-do-it-tomorrow. It says so on his birth certificate.
12-10-2005, 07:15 PM
Miriel

Him: But the main reason why I want to be admin is so that I can make sure you don't get a bigger PM box. :-)
Me: =(
Me: Why do you hate me?

Spiteful and mean. :(
12-10-2005, 09:10 PM
eestlinc

well, Staff get 65535 PMs, as has been pointed out, so it's not like this issue was ever urgent to us. But we did discuss it!
12-10-2005, 10:20 PM
UWAOOOOU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miriel

And also, the description for the FFXI forum is lame.

I agree.It should have lots of net speak and stuff aboutaggro that I dont understand.
12-10-2005, 10:25 PM
eestlinc

we should change it to say "Bleys is pants" in big letters.
12-10-2005, 10:29 PM
UWAOOOOU

Quote:

Originally Posted by eestlinc

we should change it to say "Bleys is pants" in big letters.

B_£y.$ 1z P@n+s?
12-10-2005, 10:33 PM
Miriel

It should be changed to {Are you alone?} cause that is the single best auto-translate in the game.
12-10-2005, 10:36 PM
UWAOOOOU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miriel

It should be changed to {Are you alone?} cause that is the single best auto-translate in the game.

Even better than {Meat stick, Do you have it}

I cant believe I find that humourous.
12-10-2005, 10:39 PM
Miriel

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...unkeymusic.jpg

My linkshell is giving me suggestions right now, but they're all of the {Hume}{Woman} {Backhand blow} {job} variety.
12-10-2005, 10:40 PM
UWAOOOOU

Miriel for the win xD
12-12-2005, 05:28 PM
Yamaneko

I would have never thought to PM Cid.
12-12-2005, 08:17 PM
DMKA

Yeah, if you just let people who desire more space pay for it, I see no problem. Though I won't be getting any of th money so I don't particularly care either way.
12-13-2005, 10:36 AM
Necronopticous

I must be the only person who doesn't need more than 1,000 PMs at any given time, funny that I should be one of the ones with a 65,536 limit.

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