Kind of a silly question but GAME END SPOILER

I've seen the ending fmv several times, and I like to think that everyone lives happily ever after but I noticed they don't show squalls eye's opening, just Rinoa reacting to him, and it doesn't show him on selphie's home movies. I don't have any complicated theory to prove I'm just wondering if anyone else noticed this; it threw me off the first couple times I saw it cause I thought he was dead and his spirit was watching over Rinoa since he swore he'd always be her knight; but he doesn't look "spirit-y, he looks solid. Perhaps I'm just delightfully Mad... :Oo:

Becca
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sqall isnt dead. he survives. so due to that random story thing you posted below your question id say that you might just be delightfully mad.

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Originally Posted by boys from the dwarf

sqall isnt dead. he survives. so due to that random story thing you posted below your question id say that you might just be delightfully mad.

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LOL it's a quote from the office :D




I thought he was going to die as i watched the ending and remember thinking "wtf". but no your right squall lives on BOOYA

Didn't you watch the very last part of the ending? That should eliminate all thoughts about him being dead.

Or maybe I'm reading what you wrote wrong, or something. ;P

Can someone refresh my memory on this? I thought Squall died as well...what proves that he didn't?

Here's what happened (spoiler, duh): Squall ends up in the desert-like floating piece of land where you fought Griever. Eventually he somehow winds up near Rinoa unconcious and Rinoa finds him and cries (tears of joy and relief). We are lead to believe he is dead because, well he looks dead, and in the credits Selphie's video camera runs out of batteries just when Squall would have come in the frame.
ALWAYS wait until after the credits when playing FF!!!

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Originally Posted by AdVincent

Can someone refresh my memory on this? I thought Squall died as well...what proves that he didn't?

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Let the credits run. After the credits theres an extra FMV revealing that Squall never died...

Yeah, he kisses Rinoa. Why is everyone avoiding mentioning that. It's the LAST SCENE once the credits are done. After the home video thing they show them out on a balcony under the stars. Falling star. She points to it. He grabs her wrist and pulls her in. They smooch. Fin~

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Originally Posted by Slade

Let the credits run. After the credits theres an extra FMV revealing that Squall never died...

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See, that's the part that confused me, you don't see him react w/ anyone but Rinoa, so I wasn't sure if we're supposed to interpret that as his spirit or actually him in the flesh, but If everyone says he lives I'll go w/ that, I like happily ever after better than cold lonely death :love:

Thanks a bunch!

Becca

Yeah, I thought that was just Rinoa thinking of him after seeing the shooter star. Though fantasizing that you're making out with the guy would seem rather weird...

Wait, Rinoa wasn't on any of those videos either was she? Its not 'cause she was dead. She was outside with Squall o_O;; there's no deep meaning

Rinoa is in the video, briefly, before the batteries die. She's shown reacting to Squall, doing her little finger nonsense.

If Squall WAS dead, Rinoa wouldnt be interacting with him at all, and the rest of the party wouldnt be jumping around squealing all happy-ending like. Squall isnt dead. He's off on his own with Rinoa, which is very Squall-like if you ask me. He isnt the sort to be mingling at a party.

Whether Squall lives in the end is the same sort of question as to whether Kuja dies in the end of FFIX; all evidence points to yes. They most likely chose not to show Squall in the video tape simply for dramatic effect.

I'd have to agree with 'natrix on that issue. I don't think there was deeper meaning there either. Avoiding being video taped just seems like a very Squall thing to do

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Originally Posted by AdVincent

Can someone refresh my memory on this? I thought Squall died as well...what proves that he didn't?

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...This is like the 5th person who doesn't watch after the credits...:eep: All Final Fantasy games have something after the credits!!! (Kingdom Hearts too) REMEMBER THIS TIP!!! :D

When I saw Squall unconsiousness, I never thought he was dead. I thought he had lost all hope and fallen asleep ( or somethin :rolleyes2 ). Anyway, never crossed my mind that he might be dead ( maybe cause I was caught up in the awesomness of the ending ;) )

This thread...you have got to be kidding me.

When we're looking through Selphie's cam, Rinoa is with someone pointing at the sky, correct? But we don't see who it is because he is far. When they show you "outside" you can see that he isn't on the video because he wasn't standing that close to Rinoa. And like someone else said, FFVIII's ending had the whole "happyhappy" feel. I doubt it would have that if the main character died.

I think you are all thinkin too much into this. on the first disk when squall goes to that dance thing he's sees the others first and then they disappear and... whoa. actually now i think about it... why would would irvine be in the video if they hadnt met until after the dance. now im confused. i could be that time compression thingy. anyway, yea we didn't no that selphie was doin the video thingy until the credits.

You seem confused. The video recording shown in the ending was a recording of the Garden Party held AFTER Ultimecias defeat, as a celebration (which underlines the fact that Squall isn't dead; or else they wouldn't be laughing and having fun!). The Garden Party in disc 1 was NOT filmed, and time compression is not involved at all.

It's really simple. Whatever happened to Squall when he was lost in that time-warp, Rinoa brought him back, and they promptly went and had a party, which is what we see in the ending. End of story.

That part makes sense enough but i just wanna know why Rinoa stands in the same place...

What do you mean? In the first Garden Party, Squall sees Rinoa standing on the dance floor. In the ending, they're standing on the balcony...

No not on the dance floor i meant outside on the balcony when she does that finger thing. she does that at the end during the video camera bit. oooo everyones got me confused and its buggin me!

You're confusing me too =P What is so strange about Rinoa standing on the balcony doing that finger thing? You have to explain a bit more specifically..

lol sorry. on the first disk, just before the dance scene, Rinoa does the finger thing on the balcony. That is her introduction scene coz its the first time you see her right?

During the credits it shows all the gang having a good time in a video and its at some party, which I thought was the same the one as the first time Squall meets Rinoa.

The last scene at the end where Squall and Rinoa kiss is not what I'm talking about. Erm... i dont know if that makes sense.

Well, in the dancing FMV in disc 1, Rinoa does her finger thing on the dance floor, not the balcony. The fact that she does it in the ending is just because it's Rinoas signature gesture, and I guess Square wanted to bring things full circle.

The party in disc 1 and the party in the ending are two distinct parties, however. It is NOT the same party!

Next time i get the game working again on PC i'll look again. I could have swore they were the same party. O well. I'll look next time. Thanx for making it clearer. :)

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Originally Posted by IceAngel

Next time i get the game working again on PC i'll look again. I could have swore they were the same party. O well. I'll look next time. Thanx for making it clearer. :)

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Definitely not the same party. Neither Edea, nor Irvine would have been at the SeeD graduation party, as Edea was busy being possessed by Ulti in Galbadia, and Irvine was in Galbadia Garden, he hadn't even met up with the rest of the team yet, remember? And, as Sir Bahamut pointed out, Rinoa made the gesture on the dance floor in the original, not the balcony.

Ooooh yea! Sorry for the confusion. I really need to play it again. I completely forgot Edea was in the scene to. Yea i knew i would come in here and sound completely stupid. O well. I remember now lol

I think Rinoa was pointing at a shooting star in the balcony scene. That's what it looked like to me.

I just thought that was the wierd way that she flirted. lol