PS3 pushed back to 2007 for the US?

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02-19-2006, 12:28 AM
Tidus Andronicus

PS3 pushed back to 2007 for the US?

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Originally Posted by Slashdot

"Cnet is reporting that a research report issued by Merrill Lynch suggests that the Sony PlayStation 3's American release may be postponed until 2007. From the article: 'The analyst firm proposed the idea that high costs and Sony's decision to use an 'ambitious new processor architecture--the Cell' is making it look like the company might not be able to meet its goal of getting the PS3 out in the U.S. this year.' Sony did not immediately respond to a request for comment." The official report (pdf) would also seem to indicate that the console will be somewhere in the neighborhood of $900 when it launches.

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl.../02/18/2022246

Now, we all know I'm a Nintendo fan... but O_O 2007.... and $900??? Sony must be going crazy!
They must know that anything over $500 will certainly hurt them a LOT in sales... heck even at $500 they wont be able to get a lot of low budgit famillies or parents getting gifts for their kids... (and at $500 Sony would still be loosing a lot of money on PS3...)
I can understand a 2007 release date, if they are still having problems with the Cell and BluRay... but still thats a disapointment...

I'm looking forward to the Revolution, and this will definantly help Nintendo get back up there in this next gen! (if this is article is true)
Still, I'd probably get a PS3... but O_o not for those prices... -_-

Original article:
http://news.com.com/2061-10797_3-604...1208&subj=news
02-19-2006, 12:34 AM
JackNapier

WTF? Hell no am I getting one when it comes out. They aren't gonna sell any until it goes down 400$ in price which could take over a year. Bad move on their part.
02-19-2006, 12:37 AM
Shoden

Money whores, the PS2 was about £300/$600 when it came out so I reckon that's the highest sony can get without being flamed and stuff.
02-19-2006, 12:42 AM
Tidus Andronicus

O__o.... what? I got my PS2 when it came out, for only $300... where did you get $600 from? Ebay? XDXD
02-19-2006, 12:42 AM
Kawaii Ryûkishi

Good job taking a theory put forth by some analysts and treating it like an official statement from Sony.
02-19-2006, 01:14 AM
Shoden

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tidus Andronicus

O__o.... what? I got my PS2 when it came out, for only $300... where did you get $600 from? Ebay? XDXD

I don't use the $ bucknut, I got mine for just over £300 about 3 months after it's UK release.
02-19-2006, 01:42 AM
Lychon

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Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryûkishi

Good job taking a theory put forth by some analysts and treating it like an official statement from Sony.

Yeah we don't know anything for sure yet. Only one thing is certain: NINTENDO POWER BABY!!!!!
02-19-2006, 01:44 AM
Tidus Andronicus

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Originally Posted by Bladen

I don't use the $ bucknut, I got mine for just over £300 about 3 months after it's UK release.

I know what you said... >_> dont get offensive...
I'm just saying IN THE U.S. the PS2 was ONLY $300 at launch, as long as you got it from a legit store! sheesh...
02-19-2006, 03:26 AM
Slothy

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Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryûkishi

Good job taking a theory put forth by some analysts and treating it like an official statement from Sony.

Exactly. This rampant speculation is starting to grate my nerves at this point. For starters, it says costs may be as high as $900, not the price. Fact is though, only Sony knows what it will cost to make the PS3 at this point, and if anyone honestly expects them to set a price that has them turning a profit on the console, then those people are totally ignorant of how the console market actually works. They won't sell it at a profit, just like they didn't sell the PS2 at a profit making price. The money to be made is in game sales, and that more than makes up for the losses companies are forced to take early on in a consoles lifecycle.

Here's a thought, instead of complaining about how expensive the console may or may not be, we wait for an official price from Sony? I've seen so many conflicting reports on how much it may cost to make the PS3, and different price points Sony has been considering, that I can say with absolute certainty, all these analysts have no idea what Sony's going to do, and neither do we gamers. To use an example, back around E3 I believe it was, IGN reported that amongst other things, Sony was considering the idea of a PS2 launch price level for the PS3. That would certainly go against the commonly held belief that it will be ungodly expensive if they do it. Even if they don't, the fact they would at least consider it shows they're very well aware that this thing can't be too expensive. Give the guys at Sony some credit, they didn't get to the top of the console market by being total morons.
02-19-2006, 03:42 AM
XxSephirothxX

Seriously, saying "Sony must be going crazy!" and putting any faith in this report is pretty presumptous. Obviously, the concert will cost more to produce than it will be sold for. They make the money up in software sales. There's no way the PS3 will cost 900 dollars, unless there's some really mind-blowing stuff we don't even know about it. Sony is just as intelligent as the next company, and they know damn well that they need a middle-range price to stay competitive. I heard recently there's a rumor, supposedly from an "insider," that it's coming out in September, or somewhere around there, of this year. Does this rumor have any more credibility than what you've posted? No, not really. Instead of throwing more gas on the fire, we should just wait for some, y'know, accurate information.
02-19-2006, 07:41 AM
Erdrick Holmes

HAH, TOLD YOU TOLD YOU!

*pelvic thrust*
02-19-2006, 02:38 PM
KentaRawr!

If this WERE true, then I'd be all "ZOMG!" Thankfully though, we don't know if it even will be that high of a price yet. We'll just have to wait and see. :cool:
02-19-2006, 02:48 PM
Dreddz

Thats about £ 500 in the UK, wooaahhh thats alot of money.
We'll have to wait till later in 2007 for it to be released here in the UK if thats true....Still, Once I have a PS3, Hell yes !
02-19-2006, 03:50 PM
RSL

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Originally Posted by Darth Holmes

HAH, TOLD YOU TOLD YOU!

*pelvic thrust*

Read the thread before you do crap like that.
02-19-2006, 06:53 PM
Erdrick Holmes

I did. It said 900 dollars. It was actually higher than the 500-600 I predicted.
02-19-2006, 06:54 PM
RSL

No, the whole thread. NO ONE with any idea what's going on thinks it's going to retail for that much. NO ONE.
02-19-2006, 07:03 PM
black orb

>>> I still got to play lots of ps2 games, so I dont care if the thing isnt released this year..
02-19-2006, 08:38 PM
Dignified Pauper

when is the japanese release date?
02-19-2006, 08:56 PM
final-mike

are the realease dates still 2006 for uk?
02-19-2006, 09:22 PM
Maxico

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Originally Posted by final-mike

are the realease dates still spring 2006 for uk?

Yes, they will infact travel back in time once they've mass produced the PS3 just for the sake of the UK consumers.
02-19-2006, 09:41 PM
escobert

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladen

I don't use the $ bucknut, I got mine for just over £300 about 3 months after it's UK release.

Well you have to figure the money situation for the US and UK was a bit different, the US had a stronger economey then so out $$ were worth more :p
02-20-2006, 04:38 AM
kboleen

Consoles rarely make profit, The real money is the cut Sony gets with each game sale.
02-20-2006, 02:59 PM
Tifa's Real Lover(really

900 DOLAARS!??!?!?! O__O"" they jus lost a customer, if its that high i will not buy it, u can buy 3 xbox 360s with that kind of money, and 2007 if like too far away, oo wellz, NINTENDO ALL THE WAY
02-20-2006, 04:31 PM
Endless

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Originally Posted by RSL

No, the whole thread. NO ONE with any idea what's going on thinks it's going to retail for that much. NO ONE.

That applies to you too, TRL.
02-21-2006, 02:05 AM
Erdrick Holmes

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/90b8eb06-a0...0779e2340.html

Wow, yet ANOTHER article about the 900 dollar pricetag.
02-21-2006, 02:09 AM
Shoeberto

It, yet again, is cited as being a quote from the same analysts in the previous articles.
02-21-2006, 02:15 AM
TheAbominatrix

You've got to be out of your head or just looking for a reason to bash Sony (and I'm willing to bet money on the latter), if you think they'll release it for $900.

Really. Seriously. Pull your heads out of Nintendo's buttcrack for five seconds and rationalize. And no, I'm not bashing Nintendo. I dont go in for the console wars. Childish, says I.

Sony will make sure the price range stays in the ballpark of the 360 and the Revolution in order to stand a chance in the market. They know what they're doing.
02-21-2006, 02:32 AM
Yamaneko

Uh... Microsoft and Sony always lose money on their consoles starting off. A manufacturing cost of $500+ is not unreasonable. However, if Sony wishes to sell their new console and get any money from licensing fees they know it's smart to price it around the same cost as the 360. It will NOT be more than $500.

It also seems dubious that the PS3 would be pushed back to 2007 if Sony wishes to compete with Microsoft and Nintendo. This is just wild speculation from a source that has no more information about the future than we do.
02-21-2006, 02:44 AM
Erdrick Holmes

That reminds me, does anybody have the wikipedia pages showing the three consoles' predicted title lineup?
02-21-2006, 02:47 AM
MecaKane

I don't.
But I'll save you the trouble. You think they all suck except for mgs 4. Except for the PS3 will be really slow and you'll be aging along with Snake.
02-21-2006, 02:49 AM
Rye

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix

You've got to be out of your head or just looking for a reason to bash Sony (and I'm willing to bet money on the latter), if you think they'll release it for $900.

Really. Seriously. Pull your heads out of Nintendo's buttcrack for five seconds and rationalize. And no, I'm not bashing Nintendo. I dont go in for the console wars. Childish, says I.

Sony will make sure the price range stays in the ballpark of the 360 and the Revolution in order to stand a chance in the market. They know what they're doing.

Win. :) Summed it up for me nicely.
02-21-2006, 02:54 AM
Erdrick Holmes

Quote:

Originally Posted by MecaKane

I don't.
But I'll save you the trouble. You think they all suck except for mgs 4. Except for the PS3 will be really slow and you'll be aging along with Snake.

Or maybe that they're not GTA, oh wait that's you.
02-21-2006, 03:16 AM
Yamaneko

Joel, Kane: Do not start or I'll close this thread.
02-21-2006, 04:11 AM
Raistlin

Joel: Xbox 360 costs $715 to make.

HOLY CRAP THE XBOX 360 IS GOING TO BE SO EXPENSIVE NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT...

oh wait.

According to that article Microsoft is losing $300+ on each 360 sold. So yeah, Sony will also be taking a big hit for each PS3 sold. And $900 isn't even an official amount.
02-21-2006, 04:44 AM
Erdrick Holmes

I odn't even want a damned 360. The fricken thing is so glitchy right now.
02-21-2006, 04:56 AM
Raistlin

That's not the point, Joel. The point is that the XBox costs a massive amount to make, yet Microsoft takes a huge hit in order for people to be able to afford it. It will be the same thing with the PS3.