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When I played FFviI for the 1st time I wondered why the black magic spells like fire, fira, and firaga, were converted to simple, fire1, fire2, and fire3. I've also discovered this in IV. Tell me when did the change to ra's and ga's come into ff? Do you prefer it with the simple 1,2, and 3, or do you like the ra's and ga's?
Me I like the ra's and ga's it shows evolution? now when did ice1, 2 and 3 die, VIII?
They had to use numbers in the early FFs due to the limited number of characters in the name screen.
I prefer the -ra, -ga and -ja suffixes of the later games.
Actually up until VIII, they were all 1, 2, 3, 4.... numbered levels
like the previous poster said it was mostly due to limited space
FF1 only had 4 characters ex:
FIRE
FIR2
FIR3
FIR4
THE JACKEL
And Thunder spells were "LIT" "LIT2" "LIT3"
Ah good ol "Lightning" days :)
Like above people said, it was due to limited character space. In Japanese, they use symbols for syllables, not letters like English. So "Fi", "ra" and "ga" would take up only 3 spaces. But there are only 4 spaces (in FFI anyway.), and English would require more letters to spell out that word romanized. So, they used simplified versions of the spells, but got out the same meaning.
I personaly prefer the "ra", "ga", "ja" suffixes myself. :cat:
Add-on: actually, "Firaga" would take up four, 'cause of the little "i"...well, nevermind. It doesn't matter unless you know what I'm talking about...:p )
Words like "Fira" and "Curaja" sound a lot more magical than some dope yelling "Ice 3!"
That too.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
I think "-ga" is supposed to be "-aga".
Fire
Fi-ra
Fir-aga
Fir-aja
Thunder
Thund-ara
Thund-aga
Thund-aja
Blizzard
Blizza-ra
Blizz-aga
Blizz-aja
Cure
Cu-ra
Cur-aga
Cur-aja
i think the numbering of spells stopped for a while since Final Fantasy VII (referring to mainstream titles), and then it picks back up with an epic record in Final Fantasy XI. i suppose it's logical in Final Fantasy XI's sense, otherwise a WHM wouldn't have the need to go so far if it was just Cure, Cura, and Curaga. Final Fantasy XI is actually a mix between numbering them and adding suffixes to a crazy point.
now, for my opinion - the names can be somewhat longer, but i fancy them more. they'd work better with Roman Numerals (instead of Fire3/et-cetera), at least while it doesn't get insane...
You just persuaded me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
ra and ga are better, period.
THUNDAGA! best black magic spell. :mog: *kuuuuuupo!*
Well, the "ra, ga, ja" suffix spells are actually what they are called by in the Japanese version of the games, so they did use them in Japan, just not outside. :) (For spacing purposes said above.)
Now that they can fit all that in to a line of text, they do :choc2:
Of course, I've heard that FFXI's spell level up system is similar to FFII's? I'm not sure; someone would have to tell me that one.
What happenend to Flare and Unltima?Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathKnight
talking 'bout standard black magic. Of course everyone's gonna love Holy, Flare, and Ultima.......it's a no brainer. You want to see how I break it down???Quote:
Originally Posted by Rengori
Standard magic: Thundaga
Overkill magic: Holy
BEST FF magic in the who smurfing world: Holy Thundaga!:choc2: :choc2: :choc2:
Holy Meteor pWns Holy Thundaga :cool:
But Holy Ultima Flare Meteor Thundaga is better than both :cat:
Flare and Ultima are Black Magic. Holy is White.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathKnight
Yeah I know, but in some games(FFVIII) you're able to learn both magics regardless of job....so it can be done. And besides I was just stating that Holy Thundaga would be the most killer magic ever:choc2: .Quote:
Originally Posted by Rengori
Holy's a black spell in VI. :choc2:
I thought they didn't discriminate magic in FFVI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lookout Zeromus_X
I'm quite sure Holy is called Pearl in FFVI...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lookout Zeromus_X
THE JACKEL
Holy isn't considered "black magic" because there is no such thing as black or white magic. The symbols denote the type of spell it is, and Holy (or Pearl from the SNES cartridge release) is a damaging spell as opposed to a healing or a status spell. Thus, it has the damage spell symbol next to it.
I personally prefer the -ra -aga and -aja suffixes to the numbers. Also, I prefer "Lit" or "Lightning" to "Thunder", as thunder is just the sound and shouldn't be doing lightning damage. It should be doing sonic damage, if anything.
Oh and finally, the -ra -aga and -aja works a lot better in Japanese under the character system than it does in English. One of the earlier problems translators would run into, the way the characters are spaced means that they have to truncate the game's dialogue in order to get it to fit in the amount of text boxes available. You can say a lot more in a lot less space using Japanese characters than you can using English letters.
It is my understanding that Curaja only exists in the american versions, and that in Japan the progression goes Cure, Cura, Curada, Curaga.
That's cause Curada sounds retarded.
If it's like that, then Curaja is more effective than Curada?
What?
i know aga and ara or ira but I don't ever remember aja
Does the -ja suffixes only exist in FF XI or in older FFs as well?
Curaja is Cure 4, and not many games have had it. I think it's only been in IV, but I could be wrong.
FFVIII has Gravija.
FFX has Gravija and Thundaja.
All the above are used by bosses.
It is also in Final Fantasy I.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
Anyway, I prefer -ra, aga, and aja, for the simple reason that they plain sound cooler than "Ice 2", "Fire 3", etc.
Where?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Forest Ranger
In FFI, FFIII, and FFIV, Cure 3 was Curada, and Cure 4 was Curaga. Later games did away with a fourth Cure spell but began referring to the third one as Curaga. The fourth spell then came back in FFT, but rather than revert to the old pattern, they invented the "ja" suffix. So:
FFI, FFIII, & FFIV: Cure, Cura, Curada, Curaga
FFV-FFX: Cure, Cura, Curaga
FFT: Cure, Cura, Curaga, Curaja
Dark Ixion uses it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Torren McHasselhoffgard III
I guess Crystal Chronicles doesn't count as an FF.
Exactly. Now all we need is "Flareaga".;)Quote:
Words like "Fira" and "Curaja" sound a lot more magical than some dope yelling "Ice 3!"
Did some of you say that there are ja suffixes? whichh ffs had ja, suffixes I've only seen ga's and ra's?
Nick, that was discussed in posts #28 -#33.
no becayse in ten it's not wateraga, it's waterga!Quote:
Originally Posted by Llednar Twem
tah may be true but things like fire are easyer to say if u say firaga and stuff but each to his own
I know this has been answered already, but X-2 also has "-ja" spells on the Mascot dressphere for Yuna (Moogle Cureja, Moogle Regenja, Moogle Lifeja and Moogle Wallja)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhei
Thank you for, once again, making everything simple enough for me to understand. It all makes sense now. So I guess Full-Cure is just Full-Cure in Japan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi
I still don't get it!
I hope that there are four level spells in Final Fantasy XII with the -ja suffixes. Also, I hope to see higher levels of the following magic: Aero, Protect, Shell, Haste, Slow, and Reflect.
The real question on my mind is when will they use hoochimama as a suffix.
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Originally Posted by Jhei
You mean Tornado, Protecra, Shellra, Hastaga, Slowra and Reflectra? They exist.
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Originally Posted by DarkLadyNyara
Actually, a semi-equivalent almost exists in a roundabout way. In FFXI, aga spells actually have different effects. The strength of the spell is measured in roman numerals. So FireI, FireII and FireIII are different levels of the same spell, while Firaga is actually a different spell (Fire targets one, Firaga targets an area). Typing "/recast MeteorIII" in the game shows that a spell with the name of MeteorIII is actually in the code of the game, but there's no way to obtain it. I believe FlareIII and UltimaIII also exist.
yeah, KH had some accesories that were "Protera" and "Protega" chains. There was also an Aerora and Aeroga. And a Stopra and Stopga :P X had Hastaga and Slowga.
Where the heck are Protecra, Shellra, Slowra and Reflectra?