My friends FFX-2 was really bad cause the outfits(or lack of em'),the really stupid characters,ect. But they do like the classics though I really don't see why.:twak:
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My friends FFX-2 was really bad cause the outfits(or lack of em'),the really stupid characters,ect. But they do like the classics though I really don't see why.:twak:
Generally, (note the keyword GENERALLY), those who have played the old FFs have no love for the newer FFs, especially FFX-2, which was the epitome of everything FF did not stand for.
That pretty much answers the question. Old school pros will claim that FFX-2 sucks, compared to all the others. New school fanboys/girls will claim that the old school games burn their eyes, or they ask "why do we have to play it? New school games are as good as the old/better than them!". Only in YOUR desperate opinion. Your opinion is more valid than anyone else's. It is after all, an OPINION, not a FACT.
As far as anything goes, it is pure opinion whether someone thinks a game is better than another. And no one listens to gaming review sites, so don't try to use reviews found there as "evidence" that a FF is better than another. Evidence used, can only support one's decision to hate or enjoy a game, not to prove that it is BY FACT, e.g., that many games are indeed better than FFX-2.
I'll link you a link to one such thread, found here, that goes into detail, one person's humble opinion and fully fleshed support statements, totalling six pages, as to why FFX-2 sucked, in his humble opinion. But only you can make such a judgment for yourself.
http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=80937
Some people don't like change. FFX-2 was definately change. I liked it, and I stand by my statement that it is a good FF, but some people do not. Everyone will have an opinion.
Zidane: No, some people don't like games that don't deserve a sequel. FFX-2 was like pretty much all of Square's projects lately, they can't figure anything else out to do original so let's make sequels and destroy the thousands of fan fictions of how everyone else wanted Tidus & Yuna to reunite, so long as we can milk the series.. And while they were at it, they make a change in attire to Yuna & Rikku that only encourages the disgusting perverts who make fan factional Hentai. GOD THAT'S DISGUSTING [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img]!Quote:
Originally Posted by SeeDRankLou
FFX-2 was just an easy way for square to make quick cash which was needed at the time.
The older FF's had a lot of things that X-2 didn't: More than three characters; good characters; characters that didn't go from either A) Sad to Cheery B) Cheery to crack addicted OR C) Male to Female (Paine was such an Auron ripoff); A decent story; and most importantly new worlds.
Just because some people dont like FFX-2 doesnt make them old school change haters, belive it or not, some people actually hate it for being a bad game, not the change. Some people hate the story, or lack of, side quests, characters and development, game play, world development, soundtrack, etc.
FFX-2 sold over four million copies, and boosted the sales since it's release of it and FFX combined to over ten million copies, so it must of done something right.
SRL pretty much said it though. It's nothing more and nothing less than difference in opinions, which everyone will have.
Figure 1:Japan
Figure 2: America
Figure 3: Others
Figure 4: Total
Super Mario Bros NES Nintendo
6.81
29.52
3.91
40.24
Pokemon Red / Blue / Green GB Nintendo
10.23
11.44
9.70
31.37
Tetris GB Nintendo
4.24
23.55
2.47
30.26
Duck Hunt NES Nintendo
0.28
27.34
0.69
28.31
Pokemon Gold / Silver GB Nintendo
7.21
9.14
6.75
23.10
Super Mario World SNES Nintendo
3.55
12.97
4.09
20.61
Super Mario Land GB Nintendo
4.19
10.99
2.96
18.14
Super Mario Bros 3 NES Nintendo
3.84
9.69
3.75
17.28
Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire GBA Nintendo
5.29
5.36
4.09
14.74
Pokemon Yellow GB Nintendo
3.16
5.98
5.50
14.64
Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec PS2 Sony
1.89
6.88
5.59
14.36
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City PS2 Take 2
0.47
7.76
5.35
13.58
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas PS2 Take 2
0.00
7.39
6.08
13.47
Super Mario 64 N64 Nintendo
1.92
6.87
3.10
11.89
Grand Theft Auto 3 PS2 Take 2
0.36
6.45
4.58
11.39
Super Mario Land 2 GB Nintendo
2.70
6.25
2.23
11.18
Gran Turismo PS Sony
2.55
3.99
4.30
10.84
Super Mario Allstars SNES Nintendo
2.12
6.08
2.35
10.55
Mario Kart 64 N64 Nintendo
2.24
5.52
2.11
9.87
Final Fantasy VII PS Square
3.93
3.09
2.70
9.72
Gran Turismo 2 PS Sony
1.71
3.96
3.67
9.34
Donkey Kong Country SNES Nintendo
3.00
4.43
1.87
9.30
Pokemon Fire Red / Leaf Green GBA Nintendo
2.91
3.54
2.59
9.04
Super Mario Kart SNES Nintendo
3.82
3.59
1.35
8.76
GoldenEye 007 N64 Nintendo
0.13
5.77
2.19
8.09
Final Fantasy VIII PS Square
3.64
2.34
1.88
7.86
Final Fantasy X PS2 Square
2.96
2.68
2.11
7.75
Crash Bandicoot 2 PS Sony
1.33
3.91
2.37
7.61
The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time N64 Nintendo
1.46
4.08
2.06
7.60
Halo 2 XBX Microsoft
0.11
5.72
1.65
7.48
Super Mario Bros 2 USA NES Nintendo
0.00
5.97
1.49
7.46
Crash Bandicoot 3 PS Sony
1.45
3.77
1.91
7.13
Tekken 3 PS Namco
1.40
3.09
2.42
6.91
Crash Bandicoot PS Sony
0.90
3.32
2.57
6.79
The Legend Of Zelda NES Nintendo
1.69
3.80
1.02
6.51
Need for Speed: Underground PS2 EA
0.08
2.97
3.42
6.47
Pokemon Crystal GB Nintendo
2.10
2.59
1.70
6.39
Street Fighter 2 SNES Capcom
2.88
2.51
0.91
6.30
Halo XBX Microsoft
0.10
4.88
1.31
6.29
Gran Turismo 4 PS2 Sony
1.09
1.94
3.22
6.25
Driver PS Infogrames
0.02
3.09
3.06
6.17
Smash Bros Melee GC Nintendo
1.39
3.60
1.06
6.05
Mario Kart: Double Dash GC Nintendo
0.87
3.36
1.78
6.01
Medal Of Honour Frontline PS2 EA
0.17
2.73
2.97
5.87
Resident Evil 2 PS Capcom
2.28
1.93
1.61
5.82
Metal Gear Solid 2 PS2 Konami
0.85
2.32
2.42
5.59
Tetris NES Nintendo
1.81
3.02
0.75
5.58
Super Mario Sunshine GC Nintendo
0.85
3.42
1.29
5.56
Super Smash Bros N64 Nintendo
1.97
2.93
0.65
5.55
Metal Gear Solid PS Konami
0.70
2.81
2.00
5.51
Need for Speed: Underground 2 PS2 EA
0.08
2.20
3.19
5.47
Pokemon Stadium N64 Nintendo
0.95
3.16
1.35
5.46
Tekken 2 PS Namco
1.37
2.02
2.06
5.45
Nintendogs DS Nintendo
1.20
2.03
2.19
5.42
Pokemon Emerald GBA Nintendo
1.80
1.97
1.58
5.35
Dr Mario GB Nintendo
2.08
2.21
1.05
5.34
Pokemon Pinball GB Nintendo
1.02
3.07
1.22
5.31
Final Fantasy IX PS Square
2.80
1.66
0.84
5.30
Donkey Kong 64 N64 Nintendo
1.10
3.31
0.86
5.27
Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land GB Nintendo
1.59
2.53
1.07
5.19
Donkey Kong Country 2 SNES Nintendo
2.21
2.10
0.84
5.15
Kirbys Dream Land GB Nintendo
1.71
2.75
0.67
5.13
Mario Kart: Super Circuit GBA Nintendo
0.93
2.41
1.76
5.10
Super Mario Bros DX GB Nintendo
0.20
3.45
1.42
5.07
Resident Evil PS Capcom
1.68
2.10
1.27
5.05
Final Fantasy X-2 PS2 Square
2.37
1.71
0.96
5.04
Just a list of sales figures.
Zidane: I don't understand how a list of sales figures has anything to do with it.
to put simply all the ff games i have played are great. the only ones i haven't are 6, and 9 but i will get to them. old may have some things new dosen't but new has things old dosen't if you don't like it LIVe with it or stop playing them. and a list of sales figures means nothing:moomba:
Zidane: QFFT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by lotink0
Putting them in for factual refrence before the "FFX sold a zillion copies!" thing pops up. I would think sales figures of the final fantasy games would have alot todo with the vs thing, seeing how 7 is offically the best selling RPG of all time, ff8 outsold 10, and 9 was between X and X-2 with both 11 and 6 and prior under X-2. Trends shows How the series last peeked at 7 and sales figures has FALLEN with each game after 7 with a return in X's figures that still didnt beat its two predisesors VII and VIII.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZidaneAndGarnet
Zidane: To me, that just implys some people are not willing to give other FFs a chance meaning they're fan boys and fan girls. :mad:
Yes, lets all rush out right now to by a game we dont like! People dont by games they dont like, get over it. It in no way means there fanboys/girls.
I'm pretty much mix-school, as in, I started with FFVII and then went to old-school FFs. I prefer the medieval fantasy world setting and character classes myself, but that doesn't stop me from liking FFs. Even so, I don't think Final Fantasy X-2 was a disgrace to the series. After FFX, which was a disappointment for me, I was pleased with FFX-2 and how it fixed everything I disliked about FFX. For example, pretty much the only characters I liked from FFX were Rikku and Auron. Every other character annoyed the thing out of me (*cough* Tidus) or just lacked character development, IMHO. In addition, I found voice acting to be sub-par as well, especially for Hedy Buress.
In FFX-2, every character was likable, even (SPOILER)Tidus since he didn't have much time in the game, so he didn't speak much. :p I especially liked (SPOILER)Shuyin as the villain. Rikku was still a fun character though I actually preferred her in FFX. The voice acting was a lot better in FFX-2 than in FFX, in my opinion, especially for Hedy Buress. I was worried that she'd mess up big-time since she was the lead character in this game. FFX-2 also brought back the ATB system with its fast-paced battles, and I liked the class system, which we hadn't seen since FFV. The final battle was also an improvement since I really disliked FFX's final battle in several ways. Finally, thank goodness there were no compulsory Cloisters of Trials in FFX-2!
Finally, while FFX-2 did have several changes, it still kept those things which I liked about FFX. There's all the familiar locations and the familiar setting of the world, and I like exploring and revisiting all those places from FFX again and see how they've changed, and while the main story may not be too developed, I love all the substories involved in all those locations, and all that character development the side characters (Wakka and Lulu, Ronsos, Guados, Dona and Barthello, Tobli - yes, I actually liked Tobli's character - and others) are having.
Zidane: Yeah it does, get over what? You can't like or hate what you don't try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wuggly Blight
And you're completely ignorant of the whole point. The game made money. Square Enix is a business. Businesses are out to make money. Thus the game achieved the goal, and did a damn good job of it. No one said that makes it better than anything else, and all those (mostly false) sales figures for those (crappy) games you listed are completely irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wuggly Blight
God.
Zidane: Again. QFFT! Sales Figures are irrevelent.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMKA
If there crappy and outsold X that must make it balls then. Second, the figures are not false. stamp and scream all you like.
Hey Wuggly, can you site a source for the figures you got?
And also, spam posts by you ZidaneGarnet and overall personal attacking are NOT permitted. Don't let me see it again.
Zidane: That's incredible...I have no idea what you just said. Get over it, FF sequels are bad ideas, FF sequels are best left to fan fiction authors for everyone to come up with what they believe happened. Sales figures don't make a game or a sequel. It's the reaction people give it after it is sold, and I've noticed alot of people saying they should have left the reunion of Tidus and Yuna to fan fiction authors. What? How are we spaming? Wiggly's attacking us for saying sales figures don't matter and they don't.
You didn't read my post...I just said the sales figures DON'T make a game better than others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wuggly Blight
And even still, numbers that you just pulled out of your ass have no significance here.
Its wuggly not wiggly. Thanks.
http://www.the-magicbox.com/Chart-USPlatinum.shtml
http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/viewthread.php?tid=8655
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ng_video_games
http://www.everythingandnothing.org....orldtotals.php
http://www.the-magicbox.com/topten2.htm
http://www.npdfunworld.com/funServle...age=index.html
http://www.gameswizard.com/
(Note I dont consider Wikipedia to be factual)
Yeah, and those games have been out how much longer than FFX/X-2?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wuggly Blight
You fail at arguing the point that wasn't even being made by anyone other than yourself to begin with. Thanks for playing. I'll say it one more time, in bold text for you: I never claimed that sales make a game better than another game that sold less than it; you did.
I dont think its spread over time, I think its calculated more fair then that.
P.S quit being obnoxious, Im really not impressed. I cant stop people starting arguments nor would I want to but it would be a great aid if you didnt search the forums looking to start a spam fight.
Zidane: Yet another QFFT. Sales figures are completely meaningless, it's what the people think of a game after they buy that determines whether or not it's good. FFX-2 pulls away from classic FFs, but that doesn't annoy me about it. Garnie and I bought it even though we didn't care much for FFX, and when we played it, THAT'S when we didn't like it, the annoying personality changes, the way things went in Spira, the Calm Lands becoming an amusement park, Zanarkand becoming a tourist attraction, one of the best parts of FFX, Blitzball, was badly warped. So now, even though with the game stinks to us, because of the changes for the worst, you expect us to call it good, just because its sales figures are higher than our favorite games? No, I'll stick with underrated low quality (cuz' that's what the sales figures say) FFIX. You can't tell me to say a game is good just because of how well it sells on the market, I have to play it myself to determine whether or not IMHO it's good.Quote:
You didn't read my post...I just said the sales figures DON'T make a game better than others.
And even still, those figures you posted are crap anyway.
I'm not being obnoxious. You're the one who's saying people are saying things they didn't. And I've no idea what you're talking about after than.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wuggly Blight
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go pick up KH2 and quit focusing on troll posts.
They asked a classic vs modern FF and I merely gave figures to back what final fantasy stastically are better in sales, before you launched your pointless attack. From what Ive seen it seems to be a habbit with you DMKA. And now this topic has become truely derailed.
Zidane: Actually it is not derailed, the fact is it's what people think of a game that makes it popular, not sales. FFX-2 vs. classics, that's what we're talking about, if you buy a game and EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD buys and everyone hates it but you, sales figures can only serve as an excuse to say it must be good, when to most it is not. If FFX-2 WAS OVERWHELMING WITH POPULARITY, I still would not say it's better than the classics, I've always found the classics to be better no matter what polls or sales figures say.
I agree with you on that one Zidane, I love 6 but I also love 5, not very graphic... *cough* but that doesnt matter, its will written and developed for me, and I enjoy the soundtrack. even 2 has its charms.
Zidane: There we go, let's get back to in-game comparsions instead of sale comparsions. Now, I'm a male, and alot of members of my gender say FFX-2 is good because none of the classics had attire arrangements like YRP had, I say the attire change only encouraged disgusting *Denzel Crocker neck cranking* FAN FICTION HENTAI, which I am campaigning against, because that stuff is very degrading to the ACTUAL FANS of the characters, it also pulled away from the classics with the fan that it is a sequel, no other game has had that up until FFVII: AC. FFVI and FFVII pulled away from the classics too however, FFI-FFV were medieval-based, and futuristic look didn't work for me, that's why FFIX is mine and my wife's favorite, it stands for everything, classic, FFX-2 didn't.
I dont mind the setting, medievil, mix, as long as it works I prefer Medievil. I adore FFXI myself, espcially the plot, the spacing, development, the soundtrack. How the writers decided to make them choose between hard choices. I love 7 but I dont approve of the endless parade of sequals coming out. I had high hopes for X but I was very let down with it, moreso as it went. The setting was okay but the world devlopment and construction was subpar as was the plot, plot spacing, subplots, characters, development, soundtrack etc.
What, no Starcraft/Warcraft series/Diablo series counts? (although I will admit that the numbers would have been way too high to record by any method of man).
Might I remind you all, that this person has asked for an opinion on oldschool vs FFX-2, not FFX-2 vs everything else. Because MarioKart 64, Super Mario Bros. on NES, and several of the games on the list DESTROY the entire FF series, sales/gameplay-wise. Even VI. Opinion is opinion (and in my opinion, I find my posts are largely unread for some reason).
You cannot disprove an opinion, because it cannot be proven true. You can say that a game outsold another, making it "better", but there could also have been a large number of people who disliked the game, also. So you can sell 11 million because of hype and good timing. It doesn't help if 8 million people out of the 11 hate the game.
Better is only better, in a person's desperate attempt to rationalize his likes and dislikes. And yes, you can hate/like a game that you have not yet tried, but your hate/like will not be rational, and purely immature.
Zidane: Sorry for stating my opinion, I feel FFX-2 is better than the classics, and that's what this thread is for, asking what you think of FFX-2 vs. the classic, and I stated my opinion and gave reasons.
I got started with FF with MQ. From there I graduated to FFVI (FFIIIus really), and from there to the rest of the series thanks to the miracle of emulation. I had definitely played FFVII before some of the older games, but I DID play through FFI first. As such, I consider myself an old-school fan. I still own my FFIIIus cart complete with billions of items from abusing the sketch bug. I even have the III logo baseball cap which I wore until it became unwearably disgusting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tavrobel
That said, I feel that FFX-2 is a definite THROWBACK to the oldschool FF games. The dressphere system is the job system of FFI, FFIII, FFV, FFT, FFTA and FFXI. The only difference is that you can swap out jobs mid battle, which is actually really cool. That woulda come in VERY useful for games like FFIII where having the right job/party setup for specific battles is very important. It's also reminiscent of FFX's party swap system, which was also a welcome change in my eyes.
The mission based gameplay is also a throwback. While the older games might not have said "mission time!" and "mission complete!", there were definite missions to run as the story progressed. This is most prevalent in FFI and FFII, the two oldest games in the series.
Yup, the characters and voice acting are dreadful. There's no disputing that. However, the battle system is so good that, in my opinion, it makes up for the shoddy characters. In fact, did FFI even HAVE characters? No, you just had 4 generic heroes of light who never spoke.
FFX-2 feels every bit Final Fantasy to me. I can understand why people don't necessarily see it that way, but to me, there's so much of what makes Final Fantasy the series that it is in the game that I can't help but feel that it's a true FF through and through. You wanna talk about radical departures? Look at FFVII.
Thank God someone else realized that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJZen
'FF Classics' is a pretty broad category really. So instead I’ll just compare FFX-2 to each one.
FFI: Definitely preferred FFX-2 over this. Sure, you have to respect it for being the foundation of the series, but it’s pretty outdated nowadays. I would only play the original for the difficulty.
FFII: Only FF game in the main series I haven’t played.
FFIII: I would consider FFIII to be superior to FFX-2, namely because I preferred the NPCs and the plot. Also, despite being rather old, the game is still incredibly fun to play. Also established a hell of a lot of the themes that the series would become famous for.
FFIV: Until the GBA remake, I probably would have considered this game the worst in the series. Sure, it had a pretty good plot, but the immensely flawed battle system made the game almost unplayable. FFIV advanced is much better due to the upgraded ATB system, but unfortunately this made the game too easy. The graphics have aged pretty terribly compared to FFV and FFVI, to the point where it almost looks like a NES/SNES hybrid. FFX-2 trumps this game by quite a large margin due to its awesome game play, even though I consider FFIV to have the better story.
FFV: Pretty much the FFX-2 of Classic FF games. Not only does it share many similarities to FFX-2 (limited PCs, Job System, large amount of sidequests etc.), it's also another game that people site as their least favorite in the series. I never really understood what people hated about this game. The plot is generally solid, the gameplay is the best of the Classic Games and the characters, while not as complex as those in FFVI, are still fairly likeable. Some times I wonder whether people just had a hard time getting over the fact that the antagonist was a tree…
FFV is definitely just as fun to play as FFX-2, but trumps it due to its epic story line and expansive universe (3 Worlds is pretty nice).
FFVI: A comparison between these games is kind of hard, because they are pretty much the antithesis of each other. FFX-2 is very light hearted and focused more on gameplay, while FFVI has a rather serious tone and is more focused on plot. Overall, it simply depends what you prefer in a game. I prefer FFVI, because I enjoyed its story more than I did FFX-2’s gameplay. Also, FFVI’s battle system, whole not as good as FFV’s, is by no means terrible, so over all this simply makes FFVI a superior quality game.
So overall, out of the 5 ‘oldschool’ FF games that I’ve played, I would consider FFX-2 to be better than 2 of them.
Not really sure how to interpret that, but there you go.
I can't really say anything about FF X-2 because I haven't played it yet. However, if it weren't for the classics, I wouldn't have gotten into FF, especially FF IV and VI. The classics had a memorable cast characters that was backed up with a simple, yet good storyline. The new FFs seems to like to lack that kind of spark that the classics had. Don't me wrong. I like the new FFs as well(especially FF IX). But if I were to choose, it would be classics hands down.
okay why can't u people just admit the fact that certian people like certian games if they don't like the games you do just live with it adn don't strt arguing with them over which one is best
quoted for truthQuote:
Originally Posted by lotink0
FFX-2 is definitely underrated. http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...za2006/bob.gif http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...za2006/bob.gif http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...za2006/bob.gif http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...za2006/bob.gif http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...za2006/bob.gif http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...za2006/bob.gif http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...za2006/bob.gif
Lemme just say this:
FFX-2 is the worst thing Square ever came up with.
i think i have posted here and my post was deleted.
If they bougt one and hadn't played the others it doesn't make them a fan boy. People bye games that look appealing to them. I, for one, have never played Black and don't intend ot go out of my way to play it at all, since the game looked plain stupid to me, same with San Andreas and countless other games. If you don't think you'll enjoy the game, you don't buy it, that simple. That doesn't make you a fan boy/girl.
your wrong you have bad tase in gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by Avathar
ffx-2 and ffvii ac are cool part two games ever that square enix made,
you can tell square enix likes yuripa
You ever think that maybe, just maybe, Square needed more income and they had a lot of maps and character models from FFX, thus eliminating a lot of costs for new character models?Quote:
Originally Posted by yuripa
Im backing that FF-X2 is ONE of the worst things Square came up with. (There is others, Mystic Quest anyone?) It was pretty lazy on Squares part, only changing a few NPC's and Background art. Most of the FFX series fan base seem to be new to the Final Fantasy series and have only played the newer games. I dont think X2 is even in the same league as the classics, especially when you consider the reguard its held in by most peoples as "a turd" while the good old 2d ones are still winning people over a decade after there release (Graphics isnt everything ya know)
Advent Children is a movie.:eep: Im afraid to ask what type of gaming you do.Quote:
ffx-2 and ffvii ac are cool part two games
Hey man, I actually enjoyed Mystic Quest, not great by any means but still a fun play through. X-2 is the second worst in the series. VIII is just a little bit worse, but I degress from my point.
Dude you guys I just asked for your oppions for oldschool FF versus Final Fantasy X-2. But I totally agree with you a Physcotic, and thank you Zidane. Lol!:roll:
*falls over laughing*Quote:
Originally Posted by Rengori
*continues to laugh*
*stands up and catches breath*
*resumes laughter*
*keeps this up for a good five or ten minutes before finally settling down*
Okay, so if it's nothing more than an effortless cash-in attempt, why did they completely change the battle system, add in completely new areas, monsters, expensive FMVs, characters, abilities, and levelling system? It's virtually a brand new game. It's cool if you don't like it, but at least diss it in a way that makes sense.
P.S. Of course they did it for money. They're Square. When have they ever NOT done something for money?
Gameplay was fun. Story less than superb (and verily so compared to FFX.) Made for money. Succeeded, it seems. :cat:
Agreed. Everyone have its own taste. we couldn't ask them to change that because it's natural.Quote:
Originally Posted by lotink0
I like some games and hate some games: overall FF I've played:
FFVII - My favourite, I like it.
FFVIII - Not too much, too serious.
FFIX - Non-human make their move, I like it.
FFX - Didn't like the storyline but the MIDI is the best.
FFX-2 - I like it for some reason and hate it for some reason:
I hate it because it have lack of character, no summons and the battle's easy.
I like their DS job, their storyline and alternative ending.
FF Sequel making is Square choice, we don't have the right, just be happy that we can play FF they created.
We shouldn't be arguing because all FF games is the greatest.
I'm a FFVII fanboy and second generation fan but I don't hate first generation game, I want to play it if I have the chance.
Just like FFVIIQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeromus_X
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Originally Posted by DeathKnight
FF7 had a good and complex (if you look into it) sotry.
Some of the series best gameplay and unlike X-2 didnt suck
If FFVII wasn't made for money, why wasn't it given away for free?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ballistix Man
Huh. I never said it wasnt made for money.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJZen
All the FF's were made for money. In fact, FFI is what made Square able to survive, and FFII so on just leeched off brand name recognition.
Somebody keeps mentioning that X-2 was made simply for cash of X's success. Well, what do you call VII's recent movies? Were they made because Square Enix loves their fans and cares about them so much that they'll make anything to please them? Oh wait, that's in Japan, not the West. As far as I'm concerned, we're second to them. The day they care about what we Americans isn't happening soon, Seriously IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT MONEY. FFVII, that's hailed as the best RPG in existence was made for money. Kingdom Hearts, while created by a director who wanted to make a child fantasy come true, WAS MADE FOR MONEY. X and X-2 are no different.
People complain about the obsessive people that worship X-2 and dismiss anybody that likes it as a obsessive fanboy that only plays it because it shows the girls half-naked, you know, despite that only two main characters that reveal anything are Rikku and Yuna. I also hate that if one likes X-2 or thought it was a good game, sometimes, it means that we ''haven't played any other FF games'' or we have poor tastes. Not everybody is going to like X-2, but there are lots of people that dislike it and are not rambling ''BlARgh!!! X-2 sux!!111''.
Heartless Soul is right, people are quick to be judgemental about games and people who enjoy them. However, I feel it's demonstratable that not all people who enjoy FFX-2 are idiot fanboys or just like it for the bewbz. That's not to say that those people aren't out there, but many people aren't willing to give FFX-2 a real chance. I've been into the series for a LONG time now, and FFX-2 is every bit a FF game, probably even more so than FFX.