We Need More Protagonists like These Guys

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04-12-2006, 01:30 AM
DeathKnight

We Need More Protagonists like These Guys

http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jshih/home/ff7ac_206.jpg

http://www.fantasyzone.it/ff7-2/personaggi/loz.jpg

http://simplyff.free.fr/FF12/artworks/balflear.jpg

Discuss!:tonberry:
04-12-2006, 01:36 AM
Azure Chrysanthemum

Incredibly crass and rude characters aren't necessarily bad, but they don't make good heroes.
04-12-2006, 01:42 AM
Ballistix Man

What you mean more brash white guys or more brash heros.
04-12-2006, 01:43 AM
The Last Ancient

I'm not sure about Cid but Yuri Hyuga is sort of that type character from the Shadow Hearts, and personally I think he's one of the best protaganists ever.
04-12-2006, 01:48 AM
DeathKnight

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Originally Posted by The Last Ancient

I'm not sure about Cid but Yuri Hyuga is sort of that type character from the Shadow Hearts, and personally I think he's one of the best protaganists ever.

Ditto!

PS: I didn't really mean to put Cid up there.....but it's alright
04-12-2006, 01:58 AM
Ballistix Man

Loz isnt a protagonist.
04-12-2006, 07:03 AM
Yuffie514

hooray to the anti-heroes, much like Cloud and Squall.
04-12-2006, 10:28 AM
Avathar

Redneck Cid should get his own game: FFVII: Return to Rocket Town:confused: :D
04-12-2006, 01:08 PM
Druggelz

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Last Ancient

I'm not sure about Cid but Yuri Hyuga is sort of that type character from the Shadow Hearts, and personally I think he's one of the best protaganists ever.

Agreed, Yuri is one of hell of a protagonist

But I also think that anti-heroes like Cloud and Squall make great protagonists (as Yami_Yuffie said)

So in my opinion there should be a balance between those two.
04-12-2006, 06:41 PM
feioncastor

I prefer a protagonist who actually cares about their work, the whole time.

Cloud played the bad@ss card a bit too long, I thought. He didn't really start caring until somewhere around the time when (SPOILER)Aeris dies. Before that, he's sort of just along for the ride.

Guys like Cid (FF7 Cid, that is) serve their purpose. They'd never make a good main character, but their role as side characters is clear, and they usually fill it well, as FF games are generally well written.
04-12-2006, 06:49 PM
Azure Chrysanthemum

Really, I'd say FF needs more heroes like Ramza and Cecil. Actual heroes, not the silent, personality-less "badass".
04-12-2006, 06:54 PM
DeathKnight

Yeah, I mean, characters who look/act tough, but not to the point that they don't care 'bout anything or anyone. I think that a Solid Snake (Metal Gear series) kind of character is what I'm looking for. Someone who actually looks badass, not a character like this guy

http://www.galbadiax.com/ff12/images/vaan.jpg
04-12-2006, 11:14 PM
Evastio

I think there should be more protagonists that act like protagonists and not antagonists.
04-13-2006, 12:05 AM
Azure Chrysanthemum

I don't think a hero needs to "look badass". Especially if they're a quicker character. Zidane didn't look "badass" but he was still an awesome lead because he had so much personality. It would have ruined the effect if he did look "badass".
04-13-2006, 12:09 AM
Tavrobel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evastio

I think there should be more protagonists that act like protagonists and not antagonists.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathknight

...characters who [look] tough, but not to the point that they don't care 'bout anything or anyone... [...kind of like] Solid Snake

Quote:

Originally Posted by Behold the Void

Really, I'd say FF needs more heroes like Ramza and Cecil. Actual heroes, not the silent, personality-less "badass".

I agree.

We also need a black guy who isn't deformed (Barret), retarded (Barret), or dies (General Leo). I don't care if he doesn't get a line to talk, or whether he talks in a foreign language, uses a spear or fork and does 9999 damage, or has his Agility/Evade/Accuracy stat jump up to 255/is invincible while in a prison breaking scene.

Just get a black guy in there. Illegal sale/use of drugs can be restricted to the Asian guy, incase anyone is too squeamish to deal with a story that might actually be making a social commentary on stereotypes...
04-13-2006, 12:24 AM
The Devourer Of Worlds

We need protagonists like Gippal.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0px-Gippal.gif

I mean just look at him. This guy is the definition of badass.
04-13-2006, 02:49 AM
Ballistix Man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tavrobel

I agree.

We also need a black guy who isn't deformed (Barret), retarded (Barret), or dies (General Leo). I don't care if he doesn't get a line to talk, or whether he talks in a foreign language, uses a spear or fork and does 9999 damage, or has his Agility/Evade/Accuracy stat jump up to 255/is invincible while in a prison breaking scene.

Just get a black guy in there. Illegal sale/use of drugs can be restricted to the Asian guy, incase anyone is too squeamish to deal with a story that might actually be making a social commentary on stereotypes...

Meh I'd be affended if they didnt do a stereo-typed balck man.
04-13-2006, 10:29 AM
DeathKnight

I COMPLETELY agree with Trovbel. I mean a brownish skinned color character like Barilai would kick MAJOR ass. I mean, not Barilai exactly, he looks too much like a wimp, but I mean, a stronger looking, taller version of Barilai or something like that.

And he needs to be kick ass, be normal and funny like everyone else and just fit in nicely, I'd love that so much, and no he DOES NOT have to be the stereotypical black guy. There are PLENTY of other ethnicities with brown skinned men (Latin America, Africa, Middle East, South Asia). It'd be so refreshing and interesting. But he'd have to have badasss clothes not some weird looking crap.:meditate:
04-13-2006, 11:02 AM
Markus. D

xD

Baralai is what Id call badass, just that dark look about him, to bad his voice is all "Loud Whispering" type. >___>
04-13-2006, 08:39 PM
Ballistix Man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death Knight

I COMPLETELY agree with Trovbel. I mean a brownish skinned color character like Barilai would kick MAJOR ass. I mean, not Barilai exactly, he looks too much like a wimp, but I mean, a stronger looking, taller version of Barilai or something like that.

And he needs to be kick ass, be normal and funny like everyone else and just fit in nicely, I'd love that so much, and no he DOES NOT have to be the stereotypical black guy. There are PLENTY of other ethnicities with brown skinned men (Latin America, Africa, Middle East, South Asia). It'd be so refreshing and interesting. But he'd have to have badasss clothes not some weird looking crap.

So a black man has to be a strong athletic guy?
Thats offensive.
04-13-2006, 10:25 PM
DJZen

You know, it's often the least badass characters that develop the largest contingent of squealing fanboys/girls. Characters like Yuffie, Cloud, Squall, Vivi, Aeris, Rinoa, Selphie, Tidus, Rikku and Yuna are insanely popular. Me? I prefer characters like Steiner.