Does .999999...~ = 1 ?
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Does .999999...~ = 1 ?
Jeez...my head FINALLY stops hurting from the last time this question showed up, and you bring it back again, Thanks. Thanks a lot.
Oh, lord.
I am of the personal opinion that it does.
God. I hated the last thread about this. :cry:
4-8-15-16-23-42
Where's Unne when you need him.
well if you use a calculator it equals the same number .999999... so I guess it's .000001 to short, no matter the number of 9's that go on, it will always be short by .1 of being equal to 1. or am I wrong?
Yes, because the number of 9s that go on is infinite, therefore the number of 0s before a 1 that it would take to get the number up to 1 is infinite, therefore it takes .0000000~ to get to 1, which means that .99999~ = 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by N8V_Tidus25
.33333... = 1/3
.33333... X 3 = .999999... = 3/3 = 1
If you say yes, then you are saying that 1 = 2 and 3 = 7,302 and 1,304,632 = -42.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aradae
Simple as that.
Place value... 0.999... < 1.000... because 0 < 1.
:spin: Refute that with something more complicated and I most likely won't understand you anyway. :spin:
Sure, use this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aradae
I'm not very good at wording things like this. Go into the thread linked in Kirobaito's post to get your answer.
Yes, .999...! = 1.
.999999 = .99 repeating
.99 rounded = 1
I suck at math.
I refuse to grace math with my wonderful presence.
What is the question to the ultimate answer of life, the univers and everything?
I don't really know what you just asked. What is the meaning of life and the answer to the universe?
Easily the result is 42.
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Originally Posted by Aradae
(1/3)(3) = 3/3 does not equal .9999 because it is a whole. .9999 is a .000001 away from being a whole. 1 is a whole number. .9999 is a decimal. Yes it can be rounded. But it's like when people say there's a 99% chance of a medicine not working, people believe it as fool proof, when one person comes in and the medicine does not work, that is the reason of it not being 100% and or in this case, 1 or a full whole number.
But what number separates .99999~ and 1? The answer is 0.000000~, or 0. Therefore, they are the same number.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
I always got F's in math and yes I dropped out as well but aradae, please tell me you were kidding cause' I'll laugh with you if you were.
I didn't know you guys already had this argument. Has this board undergone it's chuck norris phase yet
Edit: LOL, CN the texas walker ranger has been filtered to Raol Duke. I'm assuming the mods here grew tired of him too.
Yes. (You're better at articulating your thoughts than I am. :3)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirobaito
If you add the infinity nothing does, but if there is no infinity and the number spiraled throughout forever, an infinate .00000 with a 1 at the end would as well. .9999999999999999999~ then .00000000000000000>1~. 0 does not = 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirobaito
There's no such thing as an infinite .0000 with a 1 at the end. If something is infinite then it never ends. If there was a 1 at the end then it wouldn't be infinite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
I don't understand anything that I just read.
Then how do we not know there's not something at the end of all the 9's. What if there is a 1 or a 3 or a 4 we can't see due to the fact we think that it's just constant 9's. 1.1 isn't even one. It is 1 and 1/10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirobaito
So if we don't count as 1.1 as 1. (1 1/10)
Why would we count .9999~
DOES DISLIKE ~ = HATE?
The Firefox vs. IE threads are better than this.
Probably.
There ISN'T something at the end of all the 9's because there IS no end to all the 9's. .99999~ is an INFINITE amount of decimal places, meaning that the 9s go on forever and ever and ever and ever. 1.1 isn't 1 because 1.1 - 1 = 0.1. 1 - .999999~ = .00000~, which can be written as 0, therefore they are the same number.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
IE pwns Firefox IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Yamaneko
I didn't think you could subtract infinities, yes, it would equal zero with the infinity's but the fact I can't get my head around, is if the 9's stopped for what ever reason, because non-infinitive, 1 - .9999999999999999999999999 would = .0000000000000000000000001Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirobaito
I just don't see 1 as being an infinite. That's like saying 2.99999999999999~ is 3. and 3.99999999999~ is 4 and so on.
But the 9s don't stop for whatever reason. You don't NEED to get your mind around it because in the number .99999~, the 9s never stop. They're infinite.You're right, 1- .9999999999 = .00000000001. But .9999999999 =/= .9999999999~.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
*takes the quotes off*
Okay but since you can -normally- put things into analogys.
If I had a pie and .9999999~ was gone, which would prolly be microscopic and never noticable, the pie would still not be whole.
OK. Show me the number which represents how much is supposedly left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
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Originally Posted by Kirobaito
.00000...
Precisely. There is no pie left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aradae
Like you said, just becuase you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there. In this case the missing peice is not there, it may be insignifigant but maths about facts and pure truths. That one missing peice makes the idea faulty and not a pure number as 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirobaito
Math is about facts and pure truth, and if you can't show me the number which represents the portion of the pie that is left besides .00000~ (which is the correct answer), then there is no pie left, because .0000~ is a never ending line of 0s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
EDIT: I shouldn't say that math is about facts and pure truth because a lot of math is abstract, but you get my point. I hope.
three people who saw this thread died due to their head exploding
Yeah. I totally got distracted. There has to be a loophole, there's a loophole to everything. I'll find it. >=DQuote:
Originally Posted by Aradae
Mathmatics is just falable. Don't loose any sleep over that F in algebra kids! The new math will be much more ruthless.
if you round it..yes.
We dun need to round it. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by eemica
There is NO number between 0.999~ and 1. Nothing. No little microscobic bit. In the wonderful decimal system, 0.999~ = 1. :D
What does the ~ mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aradae
Right now, they're using "~" as a sign for "continued". Like, 0.999~ is 0.99999999999999999999999999-- and so on. It never ever stops.Quote:
Originally Posted by mobiletype
...Isn't it supposed to be a "!", though? "!"s do something like that.
Same ere and i hate this oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
Does it really smurfing matter? This is exactly why I despise math.
Furthermore,
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Originally Posted by Giga Guess
! is the factorial of the number. I'm not sure whether 0.9! existsQuote:
Originally Posted by Xaven
actually ~= means apporximately equal to
For the person a few posts above who pointed out 0.9!, that doesn't exist. Factorials only exist in positive integers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaven
It would be 0.99 with a line drawn over the 9s if you wanted to say that the 9 goes on forever.
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Originally Posted by Xaven
THIS one I know...and it can only exist with whole numbers.
"!" (And I don't recall what it's called, but I'm fairly sure KB got it as a factorial) was a symbol we used in statistics, but basically, it means you multiply every subsequent number until you reach one. For example:
9! = 9x8x7x6x5x4x3x2x1