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Which villain do you prefer Darth Vader or Sephiroth? I think Darth Vader has a better voice than Sephiroth...I read the Game Informer review of Kingdom Hearts and the author said "Lance Bass provided the voice over work for Sephiroth? No wonder why he was so hard to beat...He must have been furious. The Undertaker would have been a better choice than Lance Bass." Or something along those lines I really can't remember Kingdom Hearts is pretty forgettable in my opinion.
Sephiroth isnt even evil enough to breathe the same air Vader breathes.
Sepherioth has a big bad sword. Vader has a red lightsaber, the freakin FORCE, and a wardrobe to match the badassness he emits.
Sepherioth is a failed experiment. Vader is a dark lord of the sith.
I think my point has gotten across :P
Sephiroth.
I don't feel like explaining. :P
Darth Vader.
There really isn't any aspect of Sephiroth that isn't in some way inferior to Darth Vader.
I think The Imperial March is definitely better than The One Winged Angel.
Argh, I seem to be the singular Sephy supporter here....
I like Sephiroth better.
Force? Try materia.Quote:
Originally Posted by NINJA_Ryu
Oh yes...the Ultimate Destructive Magic Meteor is a big rock.The Force allows people to control multiple blackholes, rip space-time to destroy fleets of starships, conceal entire planets from enemies, and destroy entire solar systems by making a star explode. Though that was Force technology. A clone Palpatine ripped space-time with The dark side and ripping the fabric of existence pwns making a big rock fall onto a planet.Quote:
Force? Try materia.
they are both different...if i had to choose i would choose sephiroth, but that's if you don't ignore episode 3...if you do, i would totally say vader
Sephy :greenie:
I don't mean to be harsh but why do you guys keep typing that stupid ass nickname are you too tired/lazy to type Sephiroth? By the way Episode III may have been horrible but at least Vader didn't look like a girl in that movie...Look at a picture of Sephiroth in Advent Children he looks like he's wearing eye shadow! *Shakes head* :eep:Quote:
Originally Posted by LunarWeaver
Vader can beat Sephy for the following reasons:
- He can choke him with the force while Super Nova is being animated.
- He can destroy Sephy's sword.
- He can totally confuse the mentally unstable Sephiroth wiht the good ol' "I am your father," line.
- Sephiroth may be able to destroy the solar system, but if the Death Star had been finished our galaxy probably wouldn't be here for Sephy to destroy. Nyahhhh.
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Originally Posted by John_912I don't mean to be harsh but why do you guys keep typing that stupid ass nickname are you too tired/lazy to type Sephiroth? By the way Episode III may have been horrible but at least Vader didn't look like a girl in that movie...Look at a picture of Sephiroth in Advent Children he looks like he's wearing eye shadow! *Shakes head* :eep:Quote:
Originally Posted by LunarWeaver
Oh no, my secret is revealed!
wasn't horrible as a movie...just not a good star warsQuote:
Originally Posted by John_912I don't mean to be harsh but why do you guys keep typing that stupid ass nickname are you too tired/lazy to type Sephiroth? By the way Episode III may have been horrible but at least Vader didn't look like a girl in that movie...Look at a picture of Sephiroth in Advent Children he looks like he's wearing eye shadow! *Shakes head* :eep:Quote:
Originally Posted by LunarWeaver
Yeah, but Vader couldn't even stop a couple of kids from dropping a bomb into a tiny little hole. I mean, if nothing else, Sephiroth would have used some illusion to block that. Seriously, give Sephiroth a death star and see how things play out.
He had a death star, more like a comet or a meteor than anything else.
Seriously that nickname ("Sephy") *Shudders* is smurfing retarded even more retarded than the E.T. video game that Atari made. By the way I know Episode III is a bad movie but I absolutely love that scene where Vader killed those children. *Evil laughter*
I used the nickname cause I didn't feel like typing it. Cal me lazy if you like, but don't make a big deal out of it.
Did Darth Vader come back to life after Luke killed him? NO. Did Sephiroth after Cloud killed him? In Andvent Children? YES.
Sephiroth is eternal.
I have strong faith you will overcome the traumatic experience that is the word Sephy :jess:
Good thing I didn't pick Vader I would have called him Annie.
pssh...you mean 'younglings'? george lucas hates children so much he can't even use their proper nameQuote:
Originally Posted by John_912
Rita.
Vader. He's a a sith, enough said.
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Originally Posted by ValkyrieWing
Nope instead Vader is redeemed and we see him at the end of the movie as a shadowy blue spirit.
Edit: aisle_s let's not waste our time with meaningless posts shall we?:)
Considering Sephiroth has no idea how to use something even a quarter as complex as a Death Star let alone any technology in Star Wars, he’d probably blow himself up.Quote:
Seriously, give Sephiroth a death star and see how things play out.
Did Darth Vader hunt down and kill many Jedi? Yes. Did Sephiroth kill anyone half-as-skilled as Jedi? Shinra soldiers? Don’t think they come close. Vader commanded an entire fleet that spanned the galaxy and had a Super Star Destroyer and was a supreme military tactician. Did Sephiroth command even an entire army on ONE planet or have something as awesome as a Super Star Destroyer? Nope.Quote:
Did Darth Vader come back to life after Luke killed him? NO. Did Sephiroth after Cloud killed him? In Andvent Children? YES.
Perhaps if Sephiroth in one of his many resurrections by the shameless heads of Square even comes close to achieving half of what others villains ahve he can be free to lick Vader’s boots.
Darth Vader, of course.
The only problem is he's very poor because he can't even buy a new cool helmet.
Vader for sure.
Sephiroth may be insanely evil but Vader is just pure evil. Until the end of the last episode...
Uh, only the Force doesn't use technology.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover
But Vader is much better.
Not better than Seymour though. Why does nobody ever discuss him, when he's clearly the best bad guy around?
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Originally Posted by vivi_ultima
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Originally Posted by Nasarian AltimerosFixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by vivi_ultima
:thumb:
Now albedo, he was the villains villain. A crazy head blasting creep who'd give sephiroth the creeps.
Actually, there is Force-based technology. The Ancient Sith used it. Naga Sadow destroyed stars with his ship and its technology utilizing and augmenting his Force powers.Quote:
Uh, only the Force doesn't use technology.
And lol at ^. So true. Though, he lost points when he started "digging graves for Rubedo and Nigredo.." What a dweeb in Episode II.
Darth Vader wasn't exactly menacing when he was a child either...
vader
DARTH VADER. A legend, man.
Ok, lets put these things in perspective. Sephiroth wants to be the most powerful being in the universe. He goes around and tries to act hard. He doesn't kill many people with his hands or his sword. The you have Darth Vader, who kills for pleasure, who slays the entire Jedi Council, who kills the entire kid jedi school people. Hahaha, he slays the innocent children, if this is a contest of who is more evil, Darth Vader wins my vote.
Sephiroth, he was more original.
Darth Vader.
Can Sephiroth say to Cloud "I am your nemesis!"
The answer is: No!
That is why asthmatic Vader wins.
Say that to the Trade Federation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasarian Altimeros
defently Vader he is pure evil mind u saying that he wasnt and isnt in the end is he? he turns back to the good side
I just thought of something. Darth Vader is a movie character, so the lounge seems more like a place for him. Sephiroth is an FF7 character, so the FF7 board is the place for him.
Why General Gaming? :shifty:
Vader sucked. I always hated him for his 2d character. Again, I don't really like any of the character development in the Star wars Universe. SEPHIROTH Is a good villian, but lacks a few perseronifications I would have liked to have seen, when comparing his legend t the enemy.
Glow Stick VS Massamune, I'll take the massamune kthnx.
Bipper
Vadier was a game char once or twice ;) Sucked then tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Kentarou
Well...Episode III had a game version, too. So maybe that? Who knows.Quote:
I just thought of something. Darth Vader is a movie character, so the lounge seems more like a place for him. Sephiroth is an FF7 character, so the FF7 board is the place for him.
Why General Gaming?
Hey hey hey. Don’t make such a broad stroke. Palpatine and Thrawn are 10x the characters Seph was. Palpatine took over the galaxy and wiped out 3 Jedi Masters in 8 seconds and achieve the goals of the Sith in ruling the galaxy and exterminating the Jedi all through his own genius. He died and came back to life by actually trasnporting his spirit across space to a clone body. He then nearly rebuilt his entire Galactic Empire and destroyed an entire starfleet as well as transported Luke across the galaxy. Sephiroth got his ass handed to him not once, but twice in the game. Then he came back and lost again. Not even in one of his many “lives” did he achieve 1/100th of what Papatine did or be as awesome and evil while doing it.Quote:
Again, I don't really like any of the character development in the Star wars Universe. SEPHIROTH Is a good villian, but lacks a few perseronifications I would have liked to have seen, when comparing his legend t the enemy.
This thread wins the award of FFnerds VS Starwars nerds.
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Originally Posted by Rocket Edge
How was sephiroth more original?
Well, for his time he was more original I suppose. After that, we started seeing a bit too many Masamunes... :shifty:Quote:
Originally Posted by Raebus:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocket Edge
How was sephiroth more original?
yep, way too many :(Quote:
Originally Posted by KentarouWell, for his time he was more original I suppose. After that, we started seeing a bit too many Masamunes... :shifty:Quote:
Originally Posted by Raebus:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocket Edge
How was sephiroth more original?
I stand corrected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover
and vader wasnt EXTREMELY orginal for his time?
Sephiroth. :D
This is the worst question ever.
I love it.
Vader hands down. No contest, really.
Edit: Actually, I'd go as far as saying this comparison alone is an insult to Darth mother smurfing Vader (see Kevin Smith's article in some Rolling Stones issue for a few years back).
While I can make fun of him for wearing a huge voice-altering mask all the time, I will admit that he was more original than Sephiroth for his time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's Real Lover(really
It depends on what you like, really. Do you like the pure evil type? Or do you like the totally messed up type? =O
Darth Vader is leaps and bounds better than Sephiroth. No contest.
I think this thread is in the right place Vader has been a video game character in the past. Besides Episode III : The Game he was in Star Wars Battlefront, Star Wars Battlefront 2, Lego Star Wars, and Lego Star Wars 2 : The Original Trilogy. By the way how does Sephiroth's voice sound in Advent Children does it sound sinister or is his voice pathetic?
Sephiroth
I have made an in-depth analyzation on Sephiroth in this thread.
Dessucus wins.
that just came out:p doubt anyone has beaten thatQuote:
Originally Posted by John_912
Yeah you're right I haven't even bought that game yet but I will soon.
... This is like... the perfect example of a rhetorical question.
Because everyone knows that Darth Vader could own Sephiroth anyday.
Yeah Sephiroth may have his long sword, but in the few seconds that he gets his sword out, Vaders already cut his arms off and then knocks the sword up into small little peices. :D
Darth Vader.
When Sephiroth and the rest of FFVII are remade in videogame lego form, then maybe he'll stand a chance.
ill go with sepheroth he is much better
I can't believe this question even needs asking. Vader, clearly.
i agree Sephiroth deserves more respect then sephy that jus make him sound ???:mad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by John_912I don't mean to be harsh but why do you guys keep typing that stupid ass nickname are you too tired/lazy to type Sephiroth? By the way Episode III may have been horrible but at least Vader didn't look like a girl in that movie...Look at a picture of Sephiroth in Advent Children he looks like he's wearing eye shadow! *Shakes head* :eep:Quote:
Originally Posted by LunarWeaver
Vader.
It depends on whether we're talking about the movie characters Sephiroth and Darth Vader or the game characters Sephiroth and Darth Vader. If it's the game characters, it's an easy win for Sephiroth. Here's why:
SEPHIROTH: "Super Nova!"
DARTH VADER: "The power to destroy several planets is insignificant compared to the power of the Force!"
SEPHIROTH: "And the power of the Force is insignificant compared to the power of this!"
(Sephiroth summons 5 million screaming Sephiroth fanboys and fangirls.)
DARTH VADER: "This is just too much." (dies)
If it's the movie characters, it would end up as a draw.
(Sephiroth flies away from Darth Vader, then he suddenly appears behind him and stabs his sword through his armor.)
SEPHIROTH: "Die!"
DARTH VADER: "Arrgh!"
(Sephiroth's Masamune is stuck on Vader's armor, he can't get it out of him. Darth Vader notices this and drives his lightsaber through Sephiroth.)
SEPHIROTH: "Urk!"
(Sephiroth and Darth Vader both die. Sephiroth goes into the Lifestream, Darth Vader becomes a Force Ghost. Even then, they keep fighting each other, but neither of them can die any more.)
DARTH VADER: "So, what now, Sephiroth? Are we to be two immortals locked in an epic battle until Judgment Day and trumpets sound?"
SEPHIROTH: "Or you could surrender."
(Emperor Palpatine appears.)
PALPATINE: "Ha ha ha ha ha! Good! Good!"
SEPHIROTH: "..."
(Sephiroth casts Pale Horse on Palpatine, which turns the Emperor into a frog.)
(Kefka appears.)
KEFKA: "Wop wop wop wop wop wop wop! What a pitiful excuse for an Emperor."
(Kefka kicks the Frog Palpatine down from the cliff.)
DARTH VADER: "I can't see you doing any better."
(Darth Vader lifts Kefka to the air with Force Grip and then throws him down from the very same cliff.)
SEPHIROTH: "So, what now?"
DARTH VADER: "Listen, Professor Gast never told you what happened to your Mother."
SEPHIROTH: "Rufus dropped the rest of her down from a Shinra building in a box?"
DARTH VADER: "No. I am your Mother."
SEPHIROTH: "What the... hey, that's cool. Does that mean you are a Cetra?"
DARTH VADER: "Yes. Come with me, together we can rule the Planet as the people of Cetra did ages ago."
SEPHIROTH: "Right. I'd say it's about time."
You had to go quote Pirates and ruin it, didn't you? D=Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth1999AD
Vader! Sephiroth had some kind of neglected little boy syndrome. Vader was just plain evil!
Given a duel between Vader and Sephiroth, Vader wins. He has a freaking Lightsaber! It doesn't matter that the Masamune is 20 feet long, the lightsaber will destroy the thing. Even if it didn't, Vader can block the blow with his HAND (as in SW5) and then disarm Sephiroth. Not to mention that Vader would not fight fair. He wouldn't bother with a swordfight. He'd just do the choke hold thing, I mean, Vader doesn't care about Sephiroth. As far as Vader's conserned, Sephiroth is just another flunkie of Shinra. If he even cares to know what Shinra is. Luke got those torpedos into the death star because he was using the Force too. Ok, given that Sephiroth has the equivellent of the Force with Materia, and given that Vader doesn't use his choke hold, and given that the Light Saber can't cut through the Masamune slicing it in half, there would certainly be an interesting fight. But I still vote for Vader. Because Vader has a cape. . . and well... Darn you Darth Haden Christianson!
Thanks to George "smurfing-the-franchise" Lucas, in EpIII, Anakin (who later becomes Vader) is tricked into killing Padme, and angsts into becoming Vader.Quote:
Originally Posted by fantasyjunkie
Vader is Angst. Sephiroth is Angst. They are equal in that regard, but the One Winged Angel is so much more cooler about it. And never had a boss he had to listen to. And never broke down and asked for redemption by killing his (nonexistant) boss.
Sephiroth wins, then HK-47 as a old republic frigate kills him using her 'Aura of Pure Awsome'.
Wait a minute wasn't Jenova Sephiroth's boss? I haven't completed Final Fantasy VII so I don't know much about the plot.
A lot of people (myself included) deduced that a rationale human being would not burn down a town after reading books unless something was tinkering with his mind. But, Square's official motto is "give the fanboys what they want" and so Sephiroth is imbued with the power that is never explained to control jenova and march towards an ideal he should not have and do things with jenova's body he should not be able to do because the fanboys want it so.
Well, the thing is, Vader only asked for Redemption because of Luke. If he hadn't interfered, Vader would still be doing evil and awesome things. And Luke only had to interfere for a few moments. It was only when Vader saw the Emperor torturing his son that he had second thoughts about being evil.
Any time before that, Vader was awesome. Any time after that, he couldn't fight anyway.
The other thing is when he was Darth Haden Christianson, (i.e. before episode 4). Darth Haden Christianson couldn't hold a candle to Sephiroth. Mostly because at that point he's strewn with emotions: hatred, guilt, fear, jealousy, and of course, lust of power.
That makes him an entirely different person to deal with. Specifically, one that Sephiroth could easily manipulate and destroy.
Of course, if Sephiroth first disposed of the Emperor, which he could likely do pretty easily, Vader might actually join him. Or just kill him anyway and join sides with Luke.
But totally, Darth Vader could easily smash Sephiroth, but Darth Haden Christianson would have his butt handed to him faster than Obi-Wan Kenobi on crack.
Wait, wait, wait. How would Seph kill Palpatine? Palpatine has decades of studying Sith teachings. A Force Storm would destroy Sephiroth.Quote:
Of course, if Sephiroth first disposed of the Emperor, which he could likely do pretty easily,
Power and retardness does not equal good character growth. Star wars is just ewe. I hate it. Too dry. Like a merlot or rank cheese. Considered good cause if you can stomach it and still form an opinion, you look like more of aQuote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover
MANnerd.
Mind you, I am not a fan of sephy, but a he is simply better than any of that Star wars crap.
Fortunately, Dark Helmet pwnz them all.
Bipper
CHEESE WOULD COME AND DESTROY THEM ALL!!!!!
The real question is who is better between the above poster and Darth Vader. Obivously Sephiroth is out of the equation because of his username. I mean, he's his killer for Peat's sake.
Nope. Read that wrong. It actually says Spehiroth. Back to the debate. :greenie:
Well, the thing about Sephiroth, is that he has a freaking big sword, and he can call upon the powers or gigantic rocks to do his bidding. The thing about Vader, is that he has the Force, and he can call upon an entire Star Destroyer Fleet and a Death Star to do his bidding. Yes, admittedly the Death Star was destroyed, but depending upon when this happens, that may or may not be an issue. Besides, even without it, he's got almost or more than a hundred Star Destroyers, two Super Star Destroyers, and an entire Empire of Evil working for him. Not to mention the power of the Force.
And what does Sephiroth have? Rocks...
No contest.
Vader hardly needs a deathstar when a single ISD can do more than Meteor ever hoped to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryton87
Not that Death Stars are terribly difficult to make, mind.