I was wondering who on here also had Asperger's Syndrome, or somehwere else on the spectrum like you have autism or something. I have it, or at least my therapist thinks I have it. It would be cool if there was a whole bunch of us here.
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I was wondering who on here also had Asperger's Syndrome, or somehwere else on the spectrum like you have autism or something. I have it, or at least my therapist thinks I have it. It would be cool if there was a whole bunch of us here.
Isn't this more EoEO material?
Also I don't has Asperger's. At least I don't think I do.
I have Asperger's Syndrome, and I know of a few other people around here who have it. It doesn't mean we're the same, though.
I also have it, as well.
There was a thread made on Asperger's a couple weeks back:
http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthrea...ight=aspergers
Anyways, yeah I definetly think I have it, as almost all the symptoms fit me. I'll be getting tested in a few days to know for sure.
I have actually. Really sucks huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Weimar Pluto Knight VII
Totally.Quote:
It would be cool if there was a whole bunch of us here.
Excuse me? I hope you were joking, cause that really wasn't nice at all. Don't post stuff like that. - kikimm
Yeah I wasn't sure if I should put it in eoeo.
Oh, you have Asperger's, too, Nik?
Cool, there is a bunch. I'm pretty sure if I could do a census at my school, the percentage of people with Asperger's at my school would be less than the people with Asperger's on here.
Oh, and BizSeph, it doesn't really suck. I mean, it has it's tradeoffs. You're a genius at some things, but certainly not socially. Like, I'm obsessed with math and FF and a few other things somewhat, but socially I'm very bad, so that's caused problems.
Well duh, normal people don't play Final Fantasy. They play Madden 07, drink Mountain Dew and listen to Eminem.
I doubt it. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would be willing to diagnose me with it, but it's clear to me that my problems are my own, and they are not products of some 'disorder'.Quote:
Oh, you have Asperger's, too, Nik?
Sounds like anyone who plays FF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Not everyone with Asperger's likes FF, but yeah, I think a lot of them do ha ha.
I don't know if I have it, but I fit with the 'symtoms' very well. I don't see, though, how they can make a disorder based mainly on your social interation. But, meh.
Apparantly I may have a mild version of Asperger's Syndrome. It would make sense, but meh.
I'm gonna be tested in the next couple of weeks to make sure for definite.
I've worked with kids with Asperger's, but I, as far as I know, don't have it.
I very likely do. I'm going to have to shell out a few-hundred pounds to get assessed though, unfortunately.
I would not be surprised if I was ever diagnosed with Asperger's. But really, I can be a very social person. I just do not like people at all.
Isn't that a little contradictory? If you don't like people you won't like socialising, therefore you won't be so good at it.
You can be good at something without liking it, you know. Such a thing is possible.
I guess so, but y'see, it's not as simple as that with Asperger's. Your body language will be almost alien to neurotypical people if you have AS/autism, as will theirs to you. You will probably speak in a very formal way, and take what most people say literally. Ultimately, as the 'normal' human is still a mystery to an Aspie (maybe even other autistic people are a mystery too), it will be very difficult to have a normal conversation.
I had never heard of it untill I read The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time by Mark Haddon.
Tom Cruise can cure this with an orange.
I just have ADHD. (That is right! I have a disorder too! What did you think I was DIFFERENT?)
I don't, but I bet some doctor would say I did if I went to see him about it. The symptoms look really vague to me.
I know many people who claim to have it.
I guess it's hard to tell for sure, unless of course your behaviour is highly irregular. Anyway, I think people who have it do very well to cope with it, as it must affect their daily lives quite severely in some cases.
I always suspected you did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxx Power
I do, as well.
How does it affect your lives?
Usually, my grades in some classes are much higher than average, so that's a good thing. And if you were to ask me about a Miyazaki movie, I could tell you about all of them, for example. Or most of the FF's.
But on the negative side, my social life has a lot of problems. I don't have any friends. I have brief stints with really nice people, but b/c of that them being a nice person, I can sometimes not be able to recognise what's appropriate, so what ultimately happens is I'm alone. That may be something else, though, like an emotional disorder. Asperger's plus possible emotional disorder = not good.
It has been no loss to me. Ihave little friends IRL, but I was lucky enough to chose science as a hobby. it really helps my marks. And I still have some sembalance of friends online.
I have it.
On the topic, a while ago a father was on EoEo saying he was thinking of medicating his son, who had Aspergers, with drugs for ADD. I was surprised. I see no reason why anyone would try to medicate Aspergers. Like people who have ADD who don't take meds for it because of its positive aspects, I see Aspergers as more of a gift.
People with Aspergers tend to focus on one passion that they excel at. For example, I write stories. I'm way ahead of anyone in my English class. I read at University level (have been for years; I read "Les Miserables" at 7, and understood the gist of it, if not everything). Also, I beleive that I was at the level of most of my Grade 10 English classmates probably around Grade 3 or 4. I'm not exaggerating either.
Also, people with Aspergers have a very high sense of right and wrong, and always challenge people who they dissagree with. This can seem preachy to others; I know several other guys with Aspergers who really, really overdo it with labeling things as right and wrong. Those people with Aspergers who lower themselves to a kind of "black and white, no shades of grey" philosophy can be really annoying. I'm not like that; people with Aspergers and some extra maturity and insight tend to be really great debaters, or suited to helping people (possibly as a psychologist or child and youth worker).
People with Aspergers also are very sensitive to just about anything, especially emotions, and other's emotions. That's why we're so overwhelmed, especially at a young age. It can make us very nervous and lower our egos. You have to get over the intensity of it to regain confidence. It can be difficult, but it's also like a sixth sense. I can sense whenever people are upset emotionally, even when they hide it carefully from others. The trap one can fall into is beleiveing that someone is upset towards you, and that's why only you can tell. Usually that's not the case, we're just that sensitive.
So, as one can see, Aspergers is difficult to deal with, but also a real gift.
I would never medicate it. Sometimes mood variation can come along with Aspergers; whether or not it's a seperate illness from Aspergers, or is fully woven into certain cases of Aspergers is up to argument. I have mood variation with it, thereore I need medication for that. But Aspergers itself, without the mood variation, does not need any meds.
I have it, along with ADHD and mild autism.
"a lack of empathy, little ability to form friendships, one-sided conversation, intense absorption in a special interest, and clumsy movements."
Thats pretty true :p
I have but one friend outside the net, but I seem to have tons online, the net seems to not apply to the socialising part of the disorder, at least for me anyway.
Hmm, after reading Vincent's post, are we really not empathetic? I think we are, just people misunderstand and we end up hurting people instead of helping them. At least that's the way things are for me.
I did have an experience like that last night. I keep thinking a girl is upset with me when really it's not exactly me. If I know someone is upset or sad, I get that way, too, especially with girls, then I mess up somehow because of that or b/c of a misunderstanding, and it's like no more friend. So, I ultimately get labeled (by my dad at least, oh and by some people I care about) as a non-empath. Yeah, I think that's the most frustrating thing about me.
I've never even heard of it before.:choc2:
I don't have any of the symptoms of it, so I'm about 98.7% sure I don't have it.
That percentage was pulled out of my arse.
Hmm? No, that's not right. People with Asperger's syndrome have extreme difficulty reading body language. I do. I find it very hard to decipher somebody's mood from body language or the way they talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent, Thunder God
Yep, I can't. They have to say what they're feeling, or be crying or something. I have to pick up hints by what they say, and even then I misunderstand. Of course, usually they're pretty obvious about it. "Yeah, I don't feel like talking to anyone" or swears a lot even though they don't usually, or being more obvious, "I'm in a really bad mood." So, then I try to get empathetic by asking what's wrong? And also sometimes I think it's my fault. Then I get labeled as a horrible person one way or another.
Having met you, and having met a lot of people with Asperger's (they tend to aggregate at highly prestigious science colleges) I wouldn't consider you to have Asperger's. Disclaimer: I'm no shrink.Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0tine
I don't have Asperger's. Is it okay for me to post here? Maybe if I have something to contibute. Asperger's definitely doesn't correlate to playing Final Fantasy. Did you all ever consider that maybe everyone here with Asperger's plays FF because this is an FF message board? The converse is also not true - I do not have Asperger's and yet I play FF. (Even that is dubious these days - I haven't been able to finish an FF, hell, any RPG, in about 1.5 years.) You may think that people with Asperger's are drawn to RPGs because they create an isolated world for the player to imagine living in, and I have no idea how substantial that claim is, but I guess I'd believe it if someone cited a report or something.
And finally, I've had a great time both working and socializing with people diagnosed with Asperger's, after the exacerbated awkward initial getting-to-know-you part. I can't stress how weird it is starting out and how rewarding it is in the end. Mind-blowing, man.
IMO a lot of anti-social people would like to have Asperger's because one of the "symptoms" that sometimes manifests itself is above average intelligence.
It justifies anti-social behavior and at the same time gives them a reason to think that they're better than people who deride them for being anti-social in the first place.
I'm certainly not accusing anyone on EoFF or anywhere else of that, just my opinion.
A key difference between an anti-social person and an Asperger patient is that the Asperger patient actually can't interact with others the same way normal people do because their brain processes information coming from people they interact with differently.
Neel, when I said correlation, I didn't say 100% correlation. You know what I mean. I'm conjecturing that it's more common for people with Asperger's to like FF or video games in general. How many people with Asperger's have you all met that like to play sports? I'm sure they're around, just uncommon.
Every case is different.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShaunHmm? No, that's not right. People with Asperger's syndrome have extreme difficulty reading body language. I do. I find it very hard to decipher somebody's mood from body language or the way they talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent, Thunder God
I have trouble with expressing my body language. Everyone can't pick up when I'm angry or sad unless they know me really well, because I express them in different ways then most.
I can relate to you, because whenever people are hinting at something through body language or voice tone, I will probably miss it. So yes, I can find it hard to pick up on body language sometimes. As for emotion and how it shows up through body language, I have no problems.
The thing about how people generally describe Aspergers is that 75% of the information comes from people who have observed people with Aspergers, not the people themselves. So, as Weimar said, people think people with Aspergers are not empathetic. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are so caught up in being empathetic that while we could express it normally we're caught up in the intensity of it. Then when we express it people either miss it or misunderstand it.
Personally, I would state that people with Aspergers just have a different form of body language than other people. We're expressing a different form of body language that others don't pick up, just as we don't pick up their's.
It really depends on the case though. Aspergers is on the high-functioning scale of Autism, but within Aspergers there is a scale of its own. How high-functioning the person with Aspergers is on that scale will affect the case. There are other factors as well.
Then there is the chance that one could be misdiagnosed. There are probably lots of cases in which people are misdiagnosed as having Aspergers.
It all gets very confusing when people try to generalize. Just as I can't say that all people with Aspergers have a case like mine, you can't say that all people with Aspergers can't understand body language.
That, for example, I don't agree with at all. Yet this is the information an encyclopedia has on Aspergers. As I said, this information is probably based on some entry in a medical textbook by a stuffy psychiatrist who observed one or two people with Aspergers and generalized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
I can't even comprehend what my mental state is. Sometimes I can be the most relaxed, outgoing person in the world, reading other people like a book. Other times I can be so revved up for no reason that I can't sit still, or contain myself. I'm so painfully shy around new people that I can get to the point of making myself sick, but if I approach the situation with confidence I can be treating them like a best friend before I even know them. I can be very much an idiot a lot of the time, like when slicing up fruit, I'll hold it in the air and risk stabbing myself with a knife, but I don't see the problem at the time. I feel so much empathy towards everyone and everything (I'm highly sensitive) that practically anything can make me cry, or get extremely depressed. I also get extremely depressed for no reason, and other times I can get so hyper I'm not able to control my actions. I would say that I have manic depression, but I have plenty of periods, even days at a time, when I feel totally normal and regular and experience none of these problems. As for general Asperger’s, I show a lot of the symptoms and then another time none of them. I excel the most in my year in English and other times I can't get my brain to work.
Basically, I am a teenage boy. :-/
As for the empathy thing, well, I only tend to care about those I know, a lot of the time I dont really care or barely consider the feelings of those I dont know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weimar Pluto Knight VII
Yeah that sounds like me. Usually with girls, I care about them enough for them to think I'm going to too fast or something, and it's very frustrating. I have no friends b/c of who I am.
I only have one real friend, and what do you know, he has Asbergers as well :p
I would agree on the high intelligence thing posted earlier, as almost every person with Asbergers ive met has been really smart and seemingly beyond your average joe. According to what people say, I supposedly have a very high IQ myself, but im highly skeptical of this :p
Yeah, I only get along with people with Asperger's. There's these few guys I know that occasionally play video games with me, but that's it. That's pretty much all we do, so I've recently begun to think there's no point to my friendship with them.
Yeah, like my mate, we mainly hung out because it was school, but afterwa it ended, the main reason we remained friends was because the obsessive trait we have was locked onto a project that had been going since 2001, (yeah, that story saga thing)
Nowadays, as its pretty much been ground into the dust by the realisation that it will most likely never come to be (The original plan was that it was an imaginary FF game that we made ourselves, but grew into something so much more) weve drifted apart.
An annoying trait I have when it comes to friends, is that i seem to regard them as temporary, like a quick solution to a problem, or remaining friends through a common goal. When said goal ceases, friendship usually breaks off almost immediatly.
I can see where you're coming from. However, in my case, I was already diagnosed with dyspraxia at an early age. My brain IS different. I have co-ordination problems, I hate crowds, I hold my pen awkwardly, et cetera. I only found out about autism in general, and Asperger's syndrome a few months back. But I was intrigued. I have most of the symptons on the autism Wiki page, but almost all of the symptons on the Asperger's syndrome page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender
Furthermore, there's somebody in my college who has Asperger's. I usually talk to him online, but I've talked to him in-person before. He told me once that he always thought I had Asperger's. Who's better in making a judgment than an actual Aspie? When I said I wasn't so sure if I had Asperger's, he said that he was sure I do and, as I mentioned to him my mum said she thought I had it, well, that was convincing enough, apparently. I just wanted to clear up that I'm not using this stuff as an excuse for my life. This is a quest to find out who I really am.
Vincent, Thunder God, I am sorry to generalise. I guess that is my fault. I don't like the idea that I'm the only isolated person in this world, so I suppose that's why I do it. I know there are fairly social Aspies. In fact, I met one. But she was a bitch... I'm not even going to go into that though. I know all Aspies are different.
I know someone who has it and he's annoying. I greatly dislike him.
There's one guy I met on the Computer Science floor of my college with it. He is kind of socially inept, but he admits that he knows he is. He also has a tendancy to either be moving rhythmically at all times or "twitch".
He's kind of annoying, but I know it's due to his syndrome and I feel bad for him, but he just doesn't know when to stop talking sometimes. :(
That is precisely my thoughts about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender
Isn't Asperger supposed to be a rare disease? Maybe there is some sort of correlation between people with Asperger and people who play Final Fantasy but I'm very suprised at the number of people in this thread alone who have said that they have Asperger. Not accusing those people of anything, just sayin' that I'm very surprised given how rare this disease is supposed to be.
No, but I probably have made cow disease.
Erm, I don't want to sound rude, but Asperger's is not a disease. People are born with it. If you're going to have precise thoughts on something, you should research it a little bit first. I know a lot of people with Asperger's like Final Fantasy, but so what? Far more people without it like Final Fantasy, obviously. I'm trying to say you can't make a comparison. Many people with Asperger's like computers, but that's because they become fascinated by them more easily. Still, many people without it like computers. It is rare, yes, but you may be thinking of the rarity of pure autism. It's less than one in every thousand people who have Asperger's... could be more rarer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
"Asperger syndrome is listed as a "rare disease" by the Office of Rare Diseases (ORD) of the National Institutes of Health (NIH). This means that Asperger syndrome, or a subtype of Asperger syndrome, affects less than 200,000 people in the US population." - National Institutes of Health (NIH)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun
Well, they certainly don't know what the hell they're talking about because it's definitely not a disease. I guarantee it.
Here: http://www.disability.vic.gov.au/dsonline/dsarticles.nsf/pages/Asperger's_syndrome?OpenDocument - click it, press control and F, type 'disease' and hit return.
Jesus, I should take charge of their job because they don't know what they're doing and saying AS is a disease is quite hurtful actually. They shouldn't say that. Also, I know AS is rare, but that rare? I don't know.
Yep. It's not a disease, it's a syndrome, as evidenced by the name.
Yeah, I got Asperger's Syndrome, at least this school doctor said so. :cool:
Anyway, it's obviously a pretty mild one: I've got some social problems and tend to grow obsessed with stuff, but that's about it.
There's little point about flipping out over semantics. People sometimes say "disease" when what they are really meaning is "condition" or "syndrome."
It certainly doesnt' invalidate everything else they say just because they placed "disease" after "Asperger's" when that's the case.
Like I said, I wasn't accusing any specific individual, here or anywhere else, of wanting to be an Aspie when they're just anti-social. But I do believe it probably happens with some regularity. An Aspie might/will know an Aspie, but a non-Aspie is not in the best position to make that determination about his or herself, especially when they want it to be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShaunI can see where you're coming from. However, in my case, I was already diagnosed with dyspraxia at an early age. My brain IS different. I have co-ordination problems, I hate crowds, I hold my pen awkwardly, et cetera. I only found out about autism in general, and Asperger's syndrome a few months back. But I was intrigued. I have most of the symptons on the autism Wiki page, but almost all of the symptons on the Asperger's syndrome page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender
Furthermore, there's somebody in my college who has Asperger's. I usually talk to him online, but I've talked to him in-person before. He told me once that he always thought I had Asperger's. Who's better in making a judgment than an actual Aspie?
Asparagus syndrome?
http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9604/11/h...tura.large.jpg
My cat had that once.
(Asperger's Syndrome is a form of autism, but its pretty low-end in comparison. Those who have Asperger's normally appear to suffer from ADD but they're still capable of having normal social relations in comparison to those with Autism who are by nature socially innept. Also, Asperger's normally don't excell in forms of logical, mathamatical or visual excellence. They're pretty normal people, sometimes a little eccentric... but so are a lot of people. I can get more information from a friend who has Asperger's if you like.)
Wow, there's a lot of people here with it. I don't think I've met anyone with it. I worked as a Special Needs Assistant last year, but there was no-one in our school who had Asperger's. Do people with it usually go to non-mainstream schools (like the boy in The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time)?
I haven't got any syndromes or disorders. Woohoo!
Dang man, Ender is right on the money every time. :p
Shaun, there's no need to get all upset just because I said (and the source I quoted) calls it a disease. It's not like I meant "disease" as an insult. It's just semantics arguing over "disease" or "syndrome". I mean, that's not even a point worth arguing over.
I got the 99th percentile of verbal aptitude myself in my IQ exam. No lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reine
The rest wasn't nearly as good.
I think people with Aspergers manifest their added intelligence in one major area. There is a common example of a boy being obsessed with maps, literally knowing directions after riding one way in a car. Most people with Aspergers probably have some kind of passion, sometimes in an obsessive way almost similar to an idiot savant.
I am an amazing reader and writer. I just have a passion and talent for it.
And as for the whole "Syndrome/Disease" debate, why not just call it a gift? It creates difficulties for me, but it also helps me. Different brain structure breeds good things as well as bad. Mostly you can label a distinct strength to some form of art in mental ilness, ADD, Aspergers... most so-called ilnesses. I have mood variation as well as Aspergers; 5 years of my life was torment. But yet, I can draw inspiration from it now. I can live the pain my characters in my writing feel, and add more emotion to their problems.
I got upset because a disease is not something you are born with. Are some people in this world just plain stupid, or what? No offence to you Miriel, but them calling it that means they're not taking it seriously, and if a fact like that directly affected you, you would be offended as well.
Ender, I know once again that you weren't saying it about me, but, in a way, I do hope I have it. Why? So I know there are more people similar to me. No other reason. I already have people other than myself who're convinced I have AS, but sometimes I think my traits are more on the side of autism, as I always prefer to be alone and don't want any social interaction.
So, don't get me wrong, but please don't go thinking that people 'like to think they have AS' for a way of bragging or sympathy. If you suspected you had AS, there's nothing that isn't deadly serious about it. This is a life-changing discovery for anyone, and the assessment I'm having next month will hopefully bring an end to my current quest for truth.