I Want to Reach Level 2

Imagine a world where, once you left the safety of your town, there were really monsters and things, and the forces of light vs. Darkness were constantly at odds. Imagine, even, that LWs are out and about, trying to save the world.

And imagine that if you walked out and fought monsters or embarked upon quests and whatnot, that you would gain the keen ability to "Level up" by doing it. Would you do it?

No school. No weightlifting. You just boost your stats by using your skills in battle. Do you think it would make life easier for the daring (Except that it would also make life deadlier)?
Or do you prefer the more conventional ways of increasing our stats, the ones we use now, going to school, to the gym etc.

Dude, I'd totally do it. I'd run out into the wild and start slashing up imps and such, heck yeah. But I don't have much to live for right now, being young with no career and no family etc. You? Or do you think it wouldn't be worth it to get yourself killed one day, tramping around outside.

Plus, travelling would be hell.

hell ya, a world of final fantasy would be a dream come true...too bad it can never happen.

It would be good in natural disasters. "Newsflash: There was a major earthquake in Africa, hundreds killed. The UN sent a shipload of phoenix downs and white mages to rectify the problem immediately." Plus, I'd like to be a black mage and Nuke my enemies end all droughts in the world.

didn't you notice that there are things such as perminent deaths. Unless you die in battle against an enemy, the death is perminent. Am I the only one to notice this? I would love to have a world like that, except, where are the easy monsters? Because different areas of the world have different difficulty monsters, and if I start somewhere with hard enemies, I'd be screwed. If I could start with easy monsters to level up, hell yeah I'd do it. Spend a long time on easy monsters overleveling. That'd be me, an overleveler, and people would see me and be like, OMG LOOKS AT HIM!!!

But seriously, it all depends on what monsters are where and stuff.

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I go out into the woods all the time. I hold a stick in my hand and try to take out pesky squirrels. They don't give out much exp but they're much easier to kill than the bears. So far I have reached lever 3, if I keep fighting these squirrels I might gain a magic spell.

I think you just described Iraq.

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Originally Posted by bipper

I think you just described Iraq.

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In Iraq you never gain HP, and so a bullet always kills you.

i would get my dad to buy me a sword an a bow. I would kill birds an other small animals. eventually sell my stuff get better weapons, level up until im strong enough to embark on a jounery, go get a summon an become a sword weilding, black magic casting summoner! I would use Diablos as my summon an bring the world into a new age of terror and darkness! :mwahaha:

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Originally Posted by Martyr

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Originally Posted by bipper

I think you just described Iraq.

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In Iraq you never gain HP, and so a bullet always kills you.

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HP doesn't work as in a sturdiness or measure of defense, but in your ability to take hits. Traditionally that is. Final Fantasy wise, you do gain HP while your base stats go up. A person who is fit, and in shape can certainly take a shot better than an unfit lowbie. The weapons in Iraq just have an uncommonly high DPS.

But as long as the Warmech can cast NUCLEAR, and my Knight is still stanging afterwards, it leaves me to believe that HP represents not the HP of a boxer, but more like the amount of lives you have.

By that logic, I'd say that a man with 70,000 HP could withstand an atomic bomb in our world. And a bullet wouldn't do more than 30-100 damage, depending on how many crucial organs it manages to pierce.

If we had FF HP in this world, and it grew with level, I'd sing on my way to Iraq.

Of course, we'd all start with 1 HP, so it'd be a hard build up.

Looking at it in D&D terms which the initial Final Fantasy was based, technically hit points represent your ability to turn aside otherwise fatal blows and make them less damaging. Your constitution (vitality is usually the stat to go by in FF) is how tough you are.

That being said in D&D, much like in FF, the system breaks down at high levels, especially since FF tends to have hideously overpowered spells that your characters can eventually shrug off.

For example, a Nuclear Missile in D&D terms is statted to do 16d8 damage, essentially 16 8-sided dice worth of damage. The average on that is 72, which is easily survivable by a lot of moderate-level characters.

Kind of like how, for example, Super Nova takes off a good chunk of your hit points instead of just vaporizing you. It doesn't seem plausible.

Oh right. Topic.

If we're talking exact FF game mechanics and I started at level 1, that'd imply I'd have enough training to use whatever weapons. So I would definitely go out and slaughter imps and take their money. Getting stronger and getting money without having to do some tedious work? Definitely. Plus if I still had a house I could rest for free and not have to pay inn fees, thus giving me more money for better equipment.

If a sephiroth jumped out at me while I was in the woods, I would vomit all over my cocktail dress and run away.

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Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9

didn't you notice that there are things such as perminent deaths. Unless you die in battle against an enemy, the death is perminent. Am I the only one to notice this?

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Many FF games don't refer to the 0 HP status as being "Dead". Final Fantasy IV calls it "Swoon". I think 0 HP just means that you're so damaged and exhausted that you can't fight or even be of any help in battle. I think it means that if everyone in your party was in that condition, there would be no one to stop the bad guys from finishing you all off in your weakened state.

Even so, I've often dreamed of a world, something like the worlds we see in FF games. Being into video games like I am, I never fit in much. At my schools that I attended, it was all about being Mormon or being a football player, and I was neither. I was addicted to Final Fantasy. I was always a bit of an outcast.

I'd often think, "What if I was chosen to save the world? What if the world was being threatened by some really powerful entity, and I was called upon to fight and save the world?"

As an outcast, I'd dream this sort of thing up, and even write the entire story of my triumph over evil. And I was considered a hero for it. I was no longer the stupid high-school loser that I actually was. I could be a Paladin or a Mage and use mythical power to save the world that had been so judgemental of me.

I felt like if the world was more like the FF world, I'd probably be a lot better off.

But alas, the world is as it is, and I've learned to adapt and forsake the ideas I once harbored. And I did hope it would happen, too. I knew it wouldn't happen. But I hoped it would.

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Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9

didn't you notice that there are things such as perminent deaths. Unless you die in battle against an enemy, the death is perminent.

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Yeah. You can die in the world I invent. I never mentioned reloading. I simply mentioned a type of world that it would be cool to live in. I said nothing at all about safe.

FF world over this one...yep, i'd go for the FF world any friggin day. I could train and get my EXP/level really high so that i could wear all sortsa cool armour and use cool weapons. Then i suppose from there...i'd opt to be an assassin for whoever paid me more. Unless the side that paid more destroyed my friends in their conquest of world domination...then i'd join the resistance and kick their asses, and then people would worship me.

you guys probably wouldn't. You'd be in the temples reading scrolls and studying mechanics with Cids, while all the bullies and athletes would be levelling up and becoming fighters. Not everyone can be brilliant at anything. And if you're in this world, then so are they, and just because you know how to work the game doesn't mean you have the strength to wield a sword or the impetus to do so.

You don't find so many geeks who will work out, they tend to be a vocal minority.

I'd probably just be an NPC who has nothing better to do but hope the hero comes and raids my house of its chests. If I'm lucky, he bothers to talk to me and I get to tell him some random life story wrapped up in one sentence.

I'm just not a fighter, you know :(

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Originally Posted by rubah

you guys probably wouldn't. You'd be in the temples reading scrolls and studying mechanics with Cids, while all the bullies and athletes would be levelling up and becoming fighters. Not everyone can be brilliant at anything. And if you're in this world, then so are they, and just because you know how to work the game doesn't mean you have the strength to wield a sword or the impetus to do so.

You don't find so many geeks who will work out, they tend to be a vocal minority.

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Nah. That's a cute ideas, but if I left this world for that one, I wouldn't pass up the oppertunity to try it.

And neither would you. You'd have to be a 3rd generation FF worldling before the thrill of that kind of expoential self build up stopped being thrilling.

I reckon most of us geeks would getr our asses killed, but it does't mean that we'd be the one's in the library.
I'm only in the libraries here because FF lifestyle in the real world is called crime.

I like libraries, but i never read anymore, not even manga. I dont think i'd be much of a mage if i were in a FF world, it would probably take too much smarts and memorization. I'd rather just run up and hack something to death. Of course i'd die quickly if i just did that, so i'd have to learn some other things like being sneaky and learning vital spots and pressure points and the like...i'd still like it best if i was an assassin

I keep wishing I had a status screen, and a Remedy I could use to get rid of this stupid cold. :(

OMG! FF world would be the best thing EVER! The world would never see me again because I would be out killing stuff my whole life. Sleep? Who needs sleep! I would kill monsters all night to. But if you think about it, maybe there really is a FF world out there somewhere... I think I would go crazy and die if this was an FF world.

An FF world would get boring after a while. But for the first couple of milleniums it would be fun. with a stabbity-stab there and a nuke-nuke here, here a stab, there a nuke, everywhere a stab-nuke, old McStab-Nuke had a super monster that could kill you in one hit stab-nuke-stab-nuke-stab. +100 hp if you can guess that tune to go with the song. And I'll even throw in a cura spell.

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Originally Posted by Cezanzo

OMG! FF world would be the best thing EVER! The world would never see me again because I would be out killing stuff my whole life. Sleep? Who needs sleep! I would kill monsters all night to. But if you think about it, maybe there really is a FF world out there somewhere... I think I would go crazy and die if this was an FF world.

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Um... When I quote your text, I get some wierd, wacky html stuff.

But anyway, if you're really looking for an FF world, join a gang in the ghetto.

Really, i just want to kill monsters, specifically, and level up, because it seems like a more exciting way to earn a legal living. Not to mention a great way to work out all areas of my body and gain fame and power etc.

But again, there's plenty of places in the real world where you can kill for money. But I'm afraid of the range on a gun. I've always seen hand to hand fighting as something greater, since survival would depend entirely on my skill, and not sniper tactics. (Sometimes you get knifed in the back, of course, but what are you gonna do...)

Where do squirrels and fish hide their gil, exactly?

A world full of censors for swearing and other "things"?

I'd go insane and go on a killing spree. It would be a good sidequest for all of you

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Originally Posted by theundeadhero

Where do squirrels and fish hide their gil, exactly?

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Squirrels hide gil in their acorn stash. That's why it no good to kill squirrels in the winter, and they're only for hunting (ravaging/ransacking). Obviously they don't have gil on hand.

Fish usually have all kinds of valuables in their stomachs, because they munch jewels and gold as fast as possible, mistaking these treasures for other fish.

So, kill a fish, slice it open, and you could find millions worth of gems.

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Originally Posted by rubah

you guys probably wouldn't. You'd be in the temples reading scrolls and studying mechanics with Cids, while all the bullies and athletes would be levelling up and becoming fighters. Not everyone can be brilliant at anything. And if you're in this world, then so are they, and just because you know how to work the game doesn't mean you have the strength to wield a sword or the impetus to do so.

You don't find so many geeks who will work out, they tend to be a vocal minority.

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:p ......well said. Exactly what I was thinking.

Realistically....I'm an athelete, a working guy with university education behind me, someone who works out, someone who loves to hunt, and someone who loves Final Fantasy.

But I do like everything in moderation. So perhaps I wouldn't be hardcore enough to go out and fight imps day after day, until finally I can move on to giants. I imagine I'd do it for a while, then get tired of it, and move on to something else. :p

However, if it meant travelling the world, and adventuring with a group of friends, then that would certainly appeal to me.

Hard to say, I s'pose.

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Originally Posted by rubah

you guys probably wouldn't. You'd be in the temples reading scrolls and studying mechanics with Cids, while all the bullies and athletes would be levelling up and becoming fighters. Not everyone can be brilliant at anything. And if you're in this world, then so are they, and just because you know how to work the game doesn't mean you have the strength to wield a sword or the impetus to do so.

You don't find so many geeks who will work out, they tend to be a vocal minority.

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Ah, but you see, all the geeks would be magic users. Unfortunately, Final Fantasy tends to downplay the power of magic users endgame, but it'd still be nice.

I would.

If you want to gain a level (all stats as well), gain some EXP.
But when you want to gain only some (not all) of stats, do thing otherwise.
e.g.
For Int: Study at school
For Str: Work out at Fitness Gym
For Fire element: Work out at/near a very hot area
etc.

*yawn* "I'm tired" *goes to sleep*
Fifteen seconds later...
"I slept well... if only i could get this damn subtital thingamajig down."

Think FFTA guys...

Someone would obviously fight to recover the world were he/she lived before!! (I would be that someone...)

Of course a Final Fantasy world would be really cool, but there are things in this place that I like more.

Well I mean think about it...A lot of people who play FFs are smaller computer geek types (not saying anyone here is)..so it would be kinda unfair for them...I mean have you tried to wield a 50 lb claymore before?? It is difficult!! Some would argue that you could use magic, but then you would have to go to magic school for that, so you would be back where you started...

Not only that, imagine how fantasticaly rich you would be with all the money you make killing stuff.

Never understood how there wasn't rediculous inflation in RPGs, with money being so rediculously easy to get.

see in the earlier FFs money wasn't so rediculously easy to get til the end of the game when you're going in the uber rare dungeons, so obviously no one has the level of money that you do. After clearing the Sky Templ in FFI, I can honestly say you're prolly the richest people in the world.

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