Job Adjustments - 12/01/2006

Job Adjustments - 12/01/2006
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Today's Topics will discuss the upcoming job adjustments planned for paladins, dark knights, blue mages, corsairs, and puppetmasters.
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Paladin Adjustments
With high defensive capabilities and enmity generation in mind, we will be adjusting the effect of the paladin job abilities Sentinel and Rampart.
Sentinel
The effect of Sentinel will be changed from an increase in defense to straight damage mitigation.
Also, all actions taken while Sentinel is in effect will generate additional enmity, allowing the paladin to more easily gain and maintain an enemy's attention.
Rampart
In addition to the defense bonus granted to party members within the area of effect, Rampart will now also provide a "Magic Shield" that will absorb a certain amount of magic damage in the same manner as the spell "Stoneskin."
Shield Mastery
In addition to granting a TP bonus, the Shield Mastery job trait will also prevent interruption to spell casting when an enemy's attack is blocked with a shield.

Dark Knight Adjustments
The casting time for Absorb spells will be reduced from 4 seconds to 2 seconds to increase their utility in battle.

Blue Mage Adjustments
Changes will include more monsters available from which to learn blue magic, as well as additional spells, and adjustments to recast times.
New Blue Magic
In addition to spells attainable from the newly introduced soulflayers and the Poroggo, there will be new spells made available for mid-level players that have healing and dispelling effects.
Existing Blue Magic
The recast time for enfeebling blue magic spells such as "Chaotic Eye" and "Frightful Roar" will be reduced.

Corsair Adjustments
Corsair adjustments in the upcoming version update will mainly focus on the Quick Draw ability. Also, with the addition of the Rapid Shot job trait, ranged attacks will become a more viable combat tool for the Corsair.
Quick Draw Accuracy
A corsair's AGI will now affect the accuracy of Quick Draw. This will make it possible to improve the accuracy of Quick Draw by increasing the relevant attributes.
Quick Draw Recast Time
The recast time for Quick Draw will be reduced from 3 minutes to 1 minute.
In accordance with this change, the Group 1 merit point ability Quick Draw Recast will now reduce recast time by 2 seconds instead of 6 seconds.
Light Shot and Dark Shot
Light Shot and Dark Shot will be changed to have the following enfeebling effects instead of inflicting damage:
- Light Shot: Sleep
- Dark Shot: Dispel
*The Quick Draw additional effect of increasing the potency of enfeebling effects will remain unchanged.

Puppetmaster Adjustments
Several new automaton weapon skills will be introduced. High-level automatons will have new weapon skills available for use in various situations.
- Melee Type
Inflicts melee damage on a target and drains an amount of HP in proportion to the damage dealt.
- Ranged Type
Inflicts ranged damage on a target and occasionally has the additional effect of Stun.
- Magic Type/Standard Type
Inflicts melee damage on a target and occasionally has the additional effect of greatly reducing evasion for a brief period of time.
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A new text command [/ignorepet] will also be introduced that will allow you to ignore the pets of others, including automatons, avatars, and charmed monsters.
The text command can be used in the following way:
/ignorepet: Displays current status when no subcommand is specified
/ignorepet on: Ignore pet targets
/ignorepet off: Allow pet targets
*While using [/ignorepet on], you will be unable to target others' pets.
*You will always be able to target monsters' pets, player character's pets in PvP, and Fellows regardless of the ignorepet command.

And yet they make BLU's even more powerful.

Hmm nice. I like the push to further make PLD a better tank and desired over NIN in more situations.

BLU seems interesting now. Looks like thier trying to make people want to try and debuff and play them more as support then a straight up DD now.

COR seems like their trying to help them shine as a DD, at least enough to warrant a slot in a party along with thier buffs. Although the new Light and Dark shot changes are nifty. Finally we get a dispel as I was saying we needed since the beginning. Although I fear the Quick Draw may become a dispel spam soon. T_T Hopefully not. But the sleep debuff was nice also, so we can compete a little bit with BRD's and thier sleep tactics. Though of course BRD ftw on sleep. ^^b

PUP though is nice. Can't wait to see those new WS in action. Now if only they would add a bit more to make our puppets unigue from just another pet job. T_T

Overall I'm excitied for this update.

Looks like a nice update for PLDs especially.

PUP still looks pretty weaksauce though. =/

Cool ! they beef'd Pld up :mwahaha:

Blu is gonna kick more a$$ !!!!

Can't wait to see what these new updates will bring to the table of our FF community ^.^

And /ignorepet ... why did it take so long to get that lil' gem ??? try waist'n a min tryi'n to tab target in a crowded area and all ya get are peep's pets @.@

'BOUT DERN TIME !!!!

:lol: LMAO !

Awesome updates for PLD, especially the Shield Mastery one. Spell interruption sucks butt.

PLD and BLU are the two jobs I want to level, and they both seem to be getting the most out of this update.

the PUP is slowly getting there ^-^

PLD <3
Seems like every update they give something for pld. Good for me though cause thats what i am :D

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Originally Posted by Miriel

PUP still looks pretty weaksauce though. =/

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You've never partied with me before then. 54 PUP and I've been able to hold my damage on par with most other DD's up til 50, now I got double attack which is just awesome on H2H. ^^

Really though PUP isn't a weak job in DD wise when played right. It's just more so lacking any special features to really offset from every other DD job at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Bahamut2000X

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Originally Posted by Miriel

PUP still looks pretty weaksauce though. =/

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You've never partied with me before then. 54 PUP and I've been able to hold my damage on par with most other DD's up til 50, now I got double attack which is just awesome on H2H. ^^

Really though PUP isn't a weak job in DD wise when played right. It's just more so lacking any special features to really offset from every other DD job at the moment.

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Now you're gonna kick some serious a$$ with the upgrade for your pet and H2H ^.^

Finally, my PLD can be a bit more useful in end-game.

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Originally Posted by Bahamut2000X

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Originally Posted by Miriel

PUP still looks pretty weaksauce though. =/

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You've never partied with me before then. 54 PUP and I've been able to hold my damage on par with most other DD's up til 50, now I got double attack which is just awesome on H2H. ^^

Really though PUP isn't a weak job in DD wise when played right. It's just more so lacking any special features to really offset from every other DD job at the moment.

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Any job can do good during EXP partys, FFXI all comes down to endgame activities, which pup doesn't do so good at.

SE has a problem of listening only to places like Allakhazam and Dreams in Vana'diel (ffxionline.com). The ignore the endgame community, who arguably are more savvy with the game mechanics and are more aware of the balance problems.

The fact that they keep buffing up PLD every single update is almost no-doubt related to the constant whinning on alla about being usurped by NIN. For god's sake, a PLD with Aegis can currently tank Fafnir and take around 15 damage a hit. They are slowly making PLD damn near immune to everything and able to hold hate no matter what. People complain about the /NIN craze... but if SE keeps it up with the hate management, every PLD is going to /NIN at almost any endgame situation as long as they can hold hate (and many do already).

I'm not saying they shouldn't buff up jobs that are already doing well. COR and BLU are obviously both doing well. They are making BLU even more powerful and basically about to put COR beyond BRDs (adding Dispel and especially Sleep makes them almsot on par with BRD for endgame XP).

Meanwhile, while they are uber buffing the already buff, they are ignoring the jobs that are getting [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] on. They really need to pay DRG more attention. I'm glad they add a little for PUP here and there, but it's too little, too late, and too little at a time.

They make claims and then go the other way. They were gonna make DRKs have more of a reson to use Scythes endgame they said... then they added the Algol, which is just a sick GS giving very little reason to use Scythes. They say they are going to make WHM the be-all-end-all healer, but they really haven't added much in that area for WHM... Martyr? Devotion?


They need to be giving more attention to the jobs that are getting screwed in reality instead of buffing up jobs that are obviously doing fairly well already.

Or they can continue to beef PLD and make it the ultimate job!

More SAM buffs pls

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

More SAM buffs pls

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SAM has enough.

It would be nice if they would lower the recast time on refresh for rdm

:bigbiggri

They should allow PLD to learn Refresh.

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Originally Posted by Khaotic

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

More SAM buffs pls

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SAM has enough.

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Philistine.

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Originally Posted by Del Murder

They should allow PLD to learn Refresh.

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I'm sure it's only a few updates away at this rate.

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Originally Posted by Yeargdribble

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Originally Posted by Del Murder

They should allow PLD to learn Refresh.

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I'm sure it's only a few updates away at this rate.

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Yea at this rate Pld will be better than Rdm and I'll be outta werk

/cry

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Didn't sam just get this kick a$$ upgrade last update they did ???

More monsters to learn spells from! Yay, now maybe I wont have to do Promyvions after all...

I don't think that's what they meant. They are nortorious for being horribly misleading.

I think by more monsters to learn from they mean the Soulflayers and frog folk.

Any currently existing blue magic spells will still be unique to one type of mob. So if you want all of your spells you'll eventually have to do Promies and get sea.

When (around what lvl for blue) do you have to goto promy's and sea to learn Blue spells ... ?

Not to mention ... WooT ! New spells for Blue !!!!

the paly seems a little ub3r now...

might aswell unerf RNG and DRG >->

Frightful Roar (50) is learned from Taurus'. You COULD learn it from the ones in Uleguerand I suppose, but it's best to get it from Sacrarium (CoP 4-3 or higher).

Disserverment (72) can only be learned from Aerns in sea areas (CoP 8-1 or higher).

Saline Coat (72) can only be learned from Xzomits (CoP 8-1 or higher).

Temporal Shift (73) is from Hpemdes (CoP 8-1 or higher).

Actinic Burst (74) is from Ghrahs. (CoP 8-2 or higher).

Reactor Cool (74) is from Zdeis. (CoP 8-2 or higher).

Plasma Charger (75) is from Phuabos (CoP 8-1 or higher).

Vertical Cleave (75) is from Euvhis (CoP 8-2 or higher).

Things like Disseverment and Vertical Cleave are some of the strongest damage BLU spells is in the game and can open and close Darkness. Also,

Also, Vertical Cleave+Saline Coat = Defense Bonus (You can get it other ways, but only from much worse spells). Defense affects the power of Cannonball which is also used to do self Light skill chains with Savage Blade.

Im truely happy with the PLD buff. When I first read the update I had to read it again just to make sure I read it right. PLDs are already pretty tough and now this will just make them ub3r. 1v1 in ballista will be a joke if one player is a PLD. The only jobs that come close to beating a PLD are NIN and RDM but after this update....I dont know ;)

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Originally Posted by Darius

Im truely happy with the PLD buff. When I first read the update I had to read it again just to make sure I read it right. PLDs are already pretty tough and now this will just make them ub3r. 1v1 in ballista will be a joke if one player is a PLD. The only jobs that come close to beating a PLD are NIN and RDM but after this update....I dont know ;)

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I agree Plds (In PvP can be) Uber damage dealers with great defense but due to lack of enfeeb magic and way to remove status ailments they may not be soo great (theoretically) in PVP ... (unless of course you /whm or have a whm in ballista pt)

at least me thinks @.@


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I have a ways to go on need'n those spells for my blue >.<
thanks yeargdribble for the info ...

'Cause knowledge is power ^.^

PLD's aren't uber damage dealers. x.x; Where'd you get that idea? Also i think it'd be a bit hard to tell how they'll go with this update, considering we don't know exact numbers and equations yet.

And about Promys -- you really should do them anyways, it'll open up new areas for you and more story. Not to mention the Promys are so easy and fun, I think I've done them around 4-5 times each one for friends.

Far as PvP goes a pld would tear through most other characters. They also have the highest Divine'n magic skill out of any other job .... Banish III would bring some good destruction regardless ...

True they don't have the DD power of a Drk or Drg (with pet out) but they could still kick some a$$. They are great tanks so they would probly be able to hold up to a war and outlast them (esp with the new additions from our friends at SE)

In that aspect they can be pretty uber DD's. (Not to mention they can heal themselves).

But in a pt scenario Pld's are tanks not DD's i know @.@

I do plan on doin' the Promys and whatnot ... but i was refering to getting blue spells in promys for a high lvl blue ... which i am not.

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Originally Posted by Fuego

Far as PvP goes a pld would tear through most other characters. They also have the highest Divine'n magic skill out of any other job .... Banish III would bring some good destruction regardless ...

True they don't have the DD power of a Drk or Drg (with pet out) but they could still kick some a$$. They are great tanks so they would probly be able to hold up to a war and outlast them (esp with the new additions from our friends at SE)

In that aspect they can be pretty uber DD's. (Not to mention they can heal themselves).

But in a pt scenario Pld's are tanks not DD's i know @.@

I do plan on doin' the Promys and whatnot ... but i was refering to getting blue spells in promys for a high lvl blue ... which i am not.

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Banish III is not PLD usable, its WHM only(not to mention the HORRID cast time and mp cost to begin with..), and PLD hsa B- Divine, WHM holds the best Divine with A-.

PLDs usually dont outlast NIN RDM or MNK in ballista in general, this will help them alot, however i dont think its enough to push them to that degree yet...Cures with 9 people hitting you usually dont pull out and any WS from an evenly matched player(everyone is EM after all) is usually enough to take you down to a sliver of life if you are lucky in ballista. Our only real dmg is 300TP Spirits Within or a good Vorpal/Savage Blade.

Thats wierd ... My pld has higher Divine than my whm ?

As for the rest of it i meant one on one ... that doesn't mean i am any less wrong ... but anyway i don't really know too much about ballista to me its like Besieged ... i just stand there and heal and refresh

Hoo Hum ...

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Originally Posted by Fuego

Thats wierd ... My pld has higher Divine than my whm ?

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You wearing your Gallant Surcoat? Cause that could do it with +5 Divine Magic skill.

I don't think there are any actual spells from any of the empty mobs. I could've overlooked one though. I believe Frightful Roar will be the first thing you need to worry about from a CoP area (and you COULD get it in Uleguerand Range if you have some crazy high level friends).

EDIT: Forgot, Jettatura is in the 40s from gryphs >< Need Riverne access for those.

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Originally Posted by Bahamut2000X

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Originally Posted by Fuego

Thats wierd ... My pld has higher Divine than my whm ?

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You wearing your Gallant Surcoat? Cause that could do it with +5 Divine Magic skill.

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if its capped.

PLD can get a higher Divine Magic rating if its perhaps... I donno, I dont really know much at all about anything other than MNK, and even then, thats an overstatement...?

PLD is not a DD, it can do some, but not much compared all the other DD's in the game. End of story.

PLD's divine magic is lower than WHM's. End of story.

I think you guys hve pretty much proven you don't know much about PLD or other jobs in general. So you don't need to add incorrect facts to the thread. D;

Job Skill Ranking Cap at Level 1 Cap at Level 37 Cap at Level 75
White Mage A- 6 114 269
Paladin B+ 5 109 256


x3

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Originally Posted by Omecle

PLD is not a DD, it can do some, but not much compared all the other DD's in the game. End of story.

PLD's divine magic is lower than WHM's. End of story.

I think you guys hve pretty much proven you don't know much about PLD or other jobs in general. So you don't need to add incorrect facts to the thread. D;

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Very true. PLD are not DD's but you can fit them to be DDs. However, they will always be alittle behind an actual DD job no matter what they wear. PLD is a tank job, end of story.

Now in PvP, I havent actually played ballista yet but I do post on a forum that has a few hundred people that do, plus friends online that play all the time in ballistas. Anyways, they tell me that the PLD doesnt win matches due to DD. They simply outlast the other player.

WAR, DRG, SAM etc, with a /rdm sub the PLD can kill these easily if he is equipped with the right gear. Stoneskin, Phalanx, blink, flash, protect etc. Unless the DD job gets extremely lucky, its a small chance that it will beat a PLD due to the DDs def being so low and not being able to damage the PLD adequately enough at the start. The def - att of each one is just that different. On top of that the PLD can cure himself and block.

Against a NIN, Aegis shield defends against the elem wheel and diaga eliminates the shadows. Then you can cast Bio2 (lowers str and does 7 DoT). Then you simply outlast the NIN by curing and occasionally "interrupting" the NIN recasting of Utsusemi:Ichi. Im not saying its easy, but a NIN vs PLD is an even match. Same with a RDM.

Ive also been told by exp 'ballistars' that a PLD is used as a tank in team matches as well. I saw you said it takes 9 players to take the PLD down, which is partly true. It will take several players at one time to take him down. But you see, the PLD isnt supposed to survive the match. Hes supposed to be the tank while the casters and DDs attack the players trying to kill the PLD. Killing the PLD makes the match much easier but at the same time the other team will take alot of damage in the process making it easier for the PLDs team to win. It all goes hand in hand.

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I saw you said it takes 9 players to take the PLD down, which is partly true. It will take several players at one time to take him down.

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I remember a 30 cap Ballista as my PLD. I tanked about 3 DD's and laughed at how long it took them to bring me down. XD

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PLD's divine magic is lower than WHM's. End of story.

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It's not impossible with the correct gear set up, capped skill, and a low eneough level where the difference between skill isn't too huge. But either way is still impractical to shoot for.

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I think you guys hve pretty much proven you don't know much about PLD or other jobs in general. So you don't need to add incorrect facts to the thread. D;

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Someone sounds a tad bit angry at the moment. >.>

Not angry, just trying to enforce the facts more.

PLD can do some damage, I've merited as PLD/NIN and used my WAR gear (as well as borrowed a friends gear), and they are ok. They do fall really short though compared to other DD's. Really short.

And just as a side note, who really has the gil or time to get an Aegis? It'd be nice to have, but really... I don't think I could ever waste my time with trying to get it.

Well I have heard nice things about PLD/NIN with pure DD set up. But then again I can't say much as I wasn't there, but my LS member said they were actually doing damage that was noteworthy, but who knows. But yeah PLD should usually never be DD as thier base skills arn't geared towards it, and neither are thier weapons. But hey it is fun to watch every now and then. ^^b

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And just as a side note, who really has the gil or time to get an Aegis? It'd be nice to have, but really... I don't think I could ever waste my time with trying to get it.

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Yeah that reminds me I was going to make a comment about the guy who mentioned PLD's over poweredness if they managed to get a hold of the strongest shield in the game and how that was a stupid basis for a jobs ability, basing it off of the strongest and rarest equipment in the game.

Switching topic a bit back to the adjustments, I'm still pumped for the new COR buff. I can't wait to play mine again after the update. ^^

Sure if you want the best items for a particular job, you have to work for it. Months? A year? Alot of work and time? Sure. But why not try and get it? You can Dynamis and sell everything you get for gil. You can farm BLM spells and make quite a bit of gil. Once I hit 75 ill be farming the fire 3 scrolls to sell at the AH. Its easy to make gil in this game ya just gotta spend alot of time making it.

As for an Aegis shield in PvP, or just in general, you dont NEED to have it to win. It would obviously help but its not the end all be all shield.

I myself will try to get it. I expect to set aside at least 6 months or so to get it, if not longer. Maybe it wont take that long, maybe it will. Its all luck in the end. :)

I'm not saying PLD is only overpowered with Aegis. They are getting increasingly powerful without it. However, with it, they are just stupefyingly powerful. (Fafnir hitting for 15-20 damage a swing)

The point isn't even about how powerful PLD has become. It's the fact that SE continues to give so much attention to a job that seems to get something new almost every other update for the past year, while at the same time, there are a ton of jobs that need a LOT more attention that are getting shafted. Jobs like BST and DRG come especially to mind.




Also, to be fair, the other relics aren't downright game breaking like the Aegis is. You give a PLD an Aegis and he is ungodly. You give DRG a Gugnir and he's just another DRG. You give a THF a Mandau... he's still just a Treasure Hunter whore for your drop-rate. The only other relic that is even remotely as big of a deal is the Gjallarhorn.

So now PLD is getting new :skull::skull::skull::skull: every other update AND has the best relic in the game. Now you see my point?

Gjallahorn IS the best relic in the game. It's the only one that benefits the whole party, not just the person who has it.

Yeargdribble, I see your point and its very true. I think SE will give the other jobs updates soon enough though. They have to know what they are doing and can only improve 1-3 jobs at a time. DRG will probably get a great update and DRKs scythe, which should have been this update, will probably be in the next one. I dont know. I can understand people frustration when PLDs get update after update, but im also a PLD myself so im excited. Maybe another expansion pack will come out that will have new items and skills and whatever...I dunno...

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

Gjallahorn IS the best relic in the game. It's the only one that benefits the whole party, not just the person who has it.

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On the grand scale Gjallarhorn and Aegis are pretty on par with each other. For big fights you can either have the Gjallar giving the mages enough MP to cure the PLD more... or the PLD can just be taking less damage as the result of the Aegis.

Aegis benefits mages nearly as much a Gjallarhorn in that regard. Hell, if the PLD doesn't go down, other people don't get their faces kicked in by some HNM as a result of a PLD that couldn't stay alive. Gjallarhorn does nearly nothing for melees.

Gjallarhorn is more useful than Aegis for something like Dynamis maybe, but in a good dynamis shell MP is never an issue anyway. I know in my shell our BLMs are all sitting at 300+MP virtually all the time.

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Originally Posted by Darius

Sure if you want the best items for a particular job, you have to work for it. Months? A year? Alot of work and time? Sure. But why not try and get it? You can Dynamis and sell everything you get for gil. You can farm BLM spells and make quite a bit of gil. Once I hit 75 ill be farming the fire 3 scrolls to sell at the AH. Its easy to make gil in this game ya just gotta spend alot of time making it.

I myself will try to get it. I expect to set aside at least 6 months or so to get it, if not longer. Maybe it wont take that long, maybe it will. Its all luck in the end. :)

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Oh, if only it were all that easy. Good luck to you. ^^;

Currency you need for shield is around 16,500 pieces, costing 15k-20k a piece on Midgardsormr. I'll let you calculate that. That's a crap load of gil right there, and no dynamis shell is just going to give you that right when you join. So you're looking at a lot longer than 6-8 months.

It will realistically take 1.5-2 years to finish a relic. That's if you happen to be wealthy enough to support it.

Most D-Shells aren't gonna let you sponsor right off the bat. Even if you got into a good sponsorship program you'd need to supplement with bought currency or it would take you around 3 years of sponsoring (best case scenario with 300+ currency every run).

Soooo many people I know have waste insane amounts of gil getting to stage 3 because it's easy to do. Then they realize what's in front of them.

Like the horn is

1->2 3 Jades
2->3 14 100 Bynes

Easy enough.

3->4 60 Silvers

Then you realize that getting to stage 4 was less than half of what it would take to get from

4->5 100 Jades

Everyone gets to stage 3 and quits. If you ever do want to upgrade... be smart and keep it ALL in currency form until you are at least saved up to stage 4 to avoid a huge loss when you lose your nerve.

Word. Thanks for the info.

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Originally Posted by Omecle

I think you guys hve pretty much proven you don't know much about PLD or other jobs in general. So you don't need to add incorrect facts to the thread. D;

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Thank You, omecle ... i do realize i have no knowledge really of the pld job (I mean hello ... i'm a red mage :lol: ). What i do know, is from reading websites and random peeps i meet in game (Not to mention what i see in my own stats -which as it turn'd out was some wierd glitch) . That bein' said, i appreciate the helpful information, and will ask someone else if i decide to trade in my Fencing Degen for an Honor Sword. I'd rather be ignorant than basically bein' call'd a moron ... it doesn't inspire the learn'n juices :crying2: (even if you're try'n to enforce the facts) ...

So ... thank you, for suck'n the fun outta' my day.


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And thank you Yeargdribble for the info ^.^
You Da' Man :evilking:

Don't get too emo, it's the internet.

I'm not gett'n emo ... i just (how shall i say this) Strongly HATE people who come across like the end all be all and i'm just privledged to know you ... "End of Story"

Besides an "I'm sorry if i made you feel s#!tty" wouldn't kill ya ... but then again .. ego is a hell-of-a drug ...

So ummm .... you don't have to be so stuck up omecle, just because you have a 75 Pld doesn't mean you can treat us like we're Rubes ... "End of Story"

And just because i'm post'n this on the internet doesn't mean i'm not a real person ...

I love how people assume things, when you can't tell the kind of tone one speaks over a forum. /sigh

Why are you so defensive? Is it because you're that self concious? You know, I stated that you guys didn't know what you were talking about, and I was right. Hell, you even admited to it. So what are you on about?

I never once stated that I'm better than anyone, I said I knew more about the job because I've had more experience. So back off man.

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Originally Posted by Omecle

I love how people assume things, when you can't tell the kind of tone one speaks over a forum. /sigh

Why are you so defensive? Is it because you're that self concious? You know, I stated that you guys didn't know what you were talking about, and I was right. Hell, you even admited to it. So what are you on about?

I never once stated that I'm better than anyone, I said I knew more about the job because I've had more experience. So back off man.

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Since you seem clueless ... imma break it down, and i'll go slow.

"I love how people assume things, when you can't tell the kind of tone one speaks over a forum." (this goes with the first post.)

HAHA ! It was the words you chose ... (not your "Tone") its incredibly condescending what you said ... regardless of how you say it ...

"I think you guys hve pretty much proven you don't know much about PLD or other jobs in general"
Esp. this part "or other jobs in general" Now thats just uncouth, and unnesessary. esp when you add "So you don't need to add incorrect facts to the thread. D;"

I fessed up to not have'n all the "FACTS" and just goin' off what i have heard (and oh dear god ... speculation, heaven forbid ... its not a fact) . That doesn't mean i have no knowledge of other jobs. That means i heard some incorrect information regarding Pld.

That just suck'd the fun outta' my day.
(Laymens terms *Poor selction or composition of words, over ride or corroborate "Tone" and make it difficult for others to discern if you're bein' a jerk or try'n to be witty*)

But, then you say "Don't get too emo, it's the internet." WTF is that supposed to mean ? You don't understand what i'm say'n (or where i'm come'n from) so its easier for you to fire off some glib one liner, rather than find out what's goin' on, or why? Yea that'll smooth everything out. If someone has a problem, just tell them not to be "Too Emo" ... thats, what ... equivalent to say'n don't be gay ? So imma supposed to just forget it in the vain interest of what you may think of me ?

And even still, so F???'n what this is the internet ? Does that mean you're not a real person and shouldn't be confronted as such? Does that mean that you don't care? Do you speak a different language than i do and inflections are different with dialect, that can't be transmitted by keyboard ?
(Laymans terms *So this part would be, because you show possession of little to no empathy for others, or come off as apathetic*)

And thats all before this last post of yours.

I'm sorry to you if you feel i'm being unnesessarily "Defensive". (See how hard that was to just say hey I'm sorry ?)

:lol: thank you (Sigmund Frued) for the soft sciences break down ... but if bein' "That self conscious" came to your mind, chances are you're projecting those issues that lie in you onto me. Shall we talk about my mother now? I did admit i was wrong, i have no problems with that (Although i do wish i had some idea what you're on about with the Self conscious thing ... its like debate class and you don't know the topic.).

"You know, I stated that you guys didn't know what you were talking about, and I was right. Hell, you even admited to it."

As far as Pld is concern'd ... you were partially right. (incase you still don't know ... thats not what this is about).

"I never once stated that I'm better than anyone, I said I knew more about the job because I've had more experience."

And for the record ... you didn't even say that.

"Not angry, just trying to enforce the facts more.

PLD can do some damage, I've merited as PLD/NIN and used my WAR gear (as well as borrowed a friends gear), and they are ok. They do fall really short though compared to other DD's. Really short."

I said you were actin' stuck up (with you're "end of story"'s and "Don't get too emo, it's the internet." and so on.)

"So back off man." thanks, that brought a laugh.

I'm gonna stop there. If you still don't get it, i'm just beating a dead horse. And waste'n my time. (Good thing i'm on the clock)

Peace out
Fue~

P.S. I forgive you.

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HAHA ! It was the words you chose ... (not your "Tone") its incredibly condescending what you said ... regardless of how you say it ...

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You need to read through your entire post and think about your own words. If you were trying to come out of this as the better man, you've failed horribly. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to justify anything Omecle has said, but your last post was infinitely more offensive and blatantly condescending than any of his. You don't do a very good job of playing the victim.

Hey fellas, how's about we get back on topic, okay? Okay.

Aww my comment got deleted. :(

Anyways, update is out now....

Edit: supposedly it wasnt the update we are expecting.

Edit2: I was just timing my spells right. :P

Edit3: ignore this post haha

I've tested two of the Paladin's new features...

I've noticed some changes on Sentinel, I can actually use it to pull hate. But as far as the damage mitigation is concerned it really doesn't seem to do anything more than Sentinel already did - which is not much.

The Shield Mastery upgrade is absolutely great, I <3s it, especially against those irritating Colibri, they attack so damn fast it's a struggle to squeeze in Cure III or IVs.

I've yet to try the Rampart upgrade, I'm curious as to how much Magic damage can be Stoneskin'd so I'll aim for 62 after I get LB3 outta the way.

Wait the update happened? The only updating screen I got so far was just for PoL. Or did I just miss something?

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...24/detail.html

No i dont think the update happened..

I've been wondering about that cause that's not the first case I've heard of someone logging on and posting on a forums about the update today. >.>

Was just a simple PoL update you silly silly people you. :p

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http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...24/detail.html

No i dont think the update happened..

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Right. I was told on sunday that it was coming out tuesday. Tuesday we got an update but I didnt notice anything different. Then last night I was tanking Puks and I was blocking every other attack but still failing to cast spells. I knew something was wrong. I just got false information I guess.

*again, waits patiently for the update*

That's why the damage mitigation wasn't doing anything. :rolleyes2

I was convinced I had this update. :(

I downloaded a few FFXI files at the apparent date of the update. Excited to test out my new abilities (I thought I had?) I put my LFP flag up and with no immediate results, after half an hour it was too much to bare - I had to try out this update. So I travelled down to the Garlaige Citadel to try out the Sheild Mastery upgrade. I fought some Easy Preys and cast some spells deliberately so that they would interupt and watched out for Shield Blocks. Surely enough, every Sheild Block that occured went a Spell that was not interupted, I tried this lots of times.

I also tried the update, in a party against Colibri, but I didn't actually check for Shield Blocks and interuptions this time although I fought only few I was under the immpression I was getting more uninterupted spells in than usual.

After two days of seeking I finally got a party and at this point I was very anxious to try the new hate pulling capabilities of Sentinel, so I saved Sentinel, and every time I lost hate I would use it and it would pull hate back to me most of the time. Whether Sentinel actually pulled hate before, I'm not really sure. I was under the impression it sheded hate due to a merited ability for Paladin's that reduces Enmity loss for Sentinel (I wonder what would happen to that ability after the update).

I generally gain hate when I use Sentinel. Always been like that.

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I generally gain hate when I use Sentinel. Always been like that.

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Same. I can generally pull hate when I need to with it. But I generally still use it in my line up of hate gaining JA's in a fight.

I do notice that EP and stuff...usually does not interrupt. its IT when it counts.