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    When I say cliche, I don't mean the stuff that's always in FF games like Chocobos or Moogles. I'm talking about stuff you don't normally see. You may want it changed or not. Usually cliches are unintentional, not intentional like airships or chocobos.

    -most of the males in a game look kinda girly (looking at you Vaan and Larsa)
    -there's almost always a hyper girl (ex. Yuffie or Rikku)
    -There's a character that makes you wonder why they are there in the first place (Quina, Cait Sith, etc.)
    -There's always a Sephiroth fanboy/girl around

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    Final Fantasy does a fairly good job of hitting up all 192 RPG cliches.

    Of course, that's because Final Fantasy created most of these cliches in the first place .

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarWeaver View Post
    Final Fantasy does a fairly good job of hitting up all 192 RPG cliches.

    Of course, that's because Final Fantasy created most of these cliches in the first place .
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    Do bad translations count as cliches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarWeaver View Post
    Final Fantasy does a fairly good job of hitting up all 192 RPG cliches.

    Of course, that's because Final Fantasy created most of these cliches in the first place .
    It's kinda amusing reading over that again and seeing how many ff12 falls into xD

    (although some it doesn't!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarWeaver View Post
    Final Fantasy does a fairly good job of hitting up all 192 RPG cliches.

    Of course, that's because Final Fantasy created most of these cliches in the first place .
    Most of these can be found in FFVII. In fact, several of these were named after FFVII.

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    repetitive blonde, male protagonists (at least in the Final Fantasy games i've played). not like i have a problem with it, but some aren't that good looking.

    FFVIII...Cloud Strife
    FFIX...Zidane Tribal
    FFX...Tidus
    FFXII...Vaan
    FFT...Ramza
    FFTA...Marche

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    Major characters that are halfling of some alien, supernatural or "other" race of beings. Espers, Cetra, Lunarians...

    Death of a major character (though VIII and IX don't really apply...)

    A crystal in some form or other, whether it's of major importance like the crystals in FFI,III,IV,V,IX, and XII or just minor things that don't cross your mind (FFVI,VII,VIII, and X)

    The fact that airships are almost always connected to Cid (only four exceptions I can think of)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBanzaiKitten View Post
    When I say cliche, I don't mean the stuff that's always in FF games like Chocobos or Moogles. I'm talking about stuff you don't normally see. You may want it changed or not. Usually cliches are unintentional, not intentional like airships or chocobos.

    -most of the males in a game look kinda girly (looking at you Vaan and Larsa)
    -there's almost always a hyper girl (ex. Yuffie or Rikku)
    -There's a character that makes you wonder why they are there in the first place (Quina, Cait Sith, etc.)
    -There's always a Sephiroth fanboy/girl around
    These, as well as a lot of other named cliches in this thread, really only apply to the later games (FFVII and beyond).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarWeaver View Post
    Final Fantasy does a fairly good job of hitting up all 192 RPG cliches.

    Of course, that's because Final Fantasy created most of these cliches in the first place .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yami_Yuffie View Post
    repetitive blonde, male protagonists (at least in the Final Fantasy games i've played). not like i have a problem with it, but some aren't that good looking.

    FFVIII...Cloud Strife
    FFIX...Zidane Tribal
    FFX...Tidus
    FFXII...Vaan
    FFT...Ramza
    FFTA...Marche
    Considering blonde is one of three natural hair colours (blonde, black and brown, excluding grey since that's an old person's hair colour and therefore unlikely to be featured on a young male protagonist), I think the examples you point out make up about a third of the FF series so I think it makes for a good statistical spread of hair colour . Besides, even if what I just said is complete bull, its just hair colour (By repetative, do you mean stupid? I would say that Could (in VII BTW, not VIII) and Tidus fit that pattern fairly well, but Zidane does not.)

    Cliche's are great for immediately recogniseable characters. Just think of how much we'd have to think of, say, Squall's character to assign him an emotional role if it was not so very damned clear he's emo. Cliche = timesaver

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duality View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Yami_Yuffie View Post
    repetitive blonde, male protagonists (at least in the Final Fantasy games i've played). not like i have a problem with it, but some aren't that good looking.

    FFVIII...Cloud Strife
    FFIX...Zidane Tribal
    FFX...Tidus
    FFXII...Vaan
    FFT...Ramza
    FFTA...Marche
    Considering blonde is one of three natural hair colours (blonde, black and brown, excluding grey since that's an old person's hair colour and therefore unlikely to be featured on a young male protagonist), I think the examples you point out make up about a third of the FF series so I think it makes for a good statistical spread of hair colour . Besides, even if what I just said is complete bull, its just hair colour (By repetative, do you mean stupid? I would say that Could (in VII BTW, not VIII) and Tidus fit that pattern fairly well, but Zidane does not.)
    FF1,6,X-2 - No male protagonist.
    FF2 - Firion had blue hair (in two out of three versions) so we can discount him.
    FF3 - In the DS version, Luneth is blond
    FF4 - Paladin Cecil is blond
    FF5 - Brown
    FF7 - Blond
    FF8 - Brown
    FF9 - Blond
    FF10 - Blond
    FF12 - Blond
    FFT - Blond
    FFTA - Blond

    Out of the 10 protagonists with 'normal' hair colour, 8 are blond. So you could say it's a cliche in FF games.
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    ^^ I stand corrected then. Yay for the cliche!

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