This is why I hate threads like these, people on both sides of the issue present their opinions like irrefutable facts. Sure debating points back and forth is ok, but when it dwindles down to sheer fanpersonism like this argument is obviously heading towards, it just makes the neutrals laugh at you. It's a game, it has no real impact on anyone's life (except of course for the SE execs making millions). Learn to respect that people can have opposite opinions than yourself, and stop trying to rip each other's throats out.

On a related note, what Ryu said was actually pretty funny.