Windows Vista

[NorthernChaosGod]

I'm not a fan of integrated DRM, I don't think I will ever upgrade to Vista.

Hell, if this wasn't the family computer, I'd probably be using one of the various Linux distros.

[10-Breaker]

Vista sure is cool, but it lacks so many things so i dont want to buy it.
They said this and this works and then they donts so I really dont want to waste my money. -.-

[Little Blue]

I'm not going to upgrade to Vista anytime soon, I can't afford it and don't want it. I'll wait til I need to get a new computer or laptop, hopefully not for another 4 years, but probably sooner .

[Loony BoB]

What does all this "Integrated DRM" mean?

[Odaisé Gaelach]

What does all this "Integrated DRM" mean?

Digital Rights Management. It's software that controls the copying and playing of digital media, so as to prevent copying and downloading music.

[Dr Unne]

What does all this "Integrated DRM" mean?

Digital Rights Management. It's software that controls the copying and playing of digital media, so as to prevent copying and downloading music.

It prevents much more than that. It sometimes prevent legitimate uses of music like ripping your own CDs or making copies of your own MP3s. It prevents you from watching HD movies (even ones you've paid for) on any but an industry-approved monitor; if you try to watch it on a normal monitor Windows will deliberately make it look like trash. And so forth.

DRM also describes the process whereby Microsoft can at-will disable your entire system if they think you pirated Windows. http://www.computerworld.com/action/...icleId=9004970 Remember, you aren't buying Windows, you're buying temporary permission from Microsoft to use Windows until they decide to take your permission away.

[Breine]

I don't know that much about it, but for now I'm very happy with my Windows XP. I probably won't get Windows Vista unless I buy a new computer.

[Mirage]

What does all this "Integrated DRM" mean?

Digital Rights Management. It's software that controls the copying and playing of digital media, so as to prevent copying and downloading music.

It prevents much more than that. It sometimes prevent legitimate uses of music like ripping your own CDs or making copies of your own MP3s. It prevents you from watching HD movies (even ones you've paid for) on any but an industry-approved monitor; if you try to watch it on a normal monitor Windows will deliberately make it look like trash. And so forth.

DRM also describes the process whereby Microsoft can at-will disable your entire system if they think you pirated Windows. http://www.computerworld.com/action/...icleId=9004970 Remember, you aren't buying Windows, you're buying temporary permission from Microsoft to use Windows until they decide to take your permission away.

Keep in mind though, that without this built-in DRM, you would most likely not be able to watch HD DVDs at all. This is isn't MS' fault :p, it's decided by that HD DVD interest organisation which most Hollywood studios are members of. I forgot its name.

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I also have a hard time believing Vista will add DRM to your non-DRMed audio files, and that it will prevent you from ripping an album with CD-Ex.

And to be fair, you don't own any of your music, movies or any of the other commercial programs you've paid for either, the only reason to complain is when the WGA makes a false positive. As long as those are kept to a minimum, people shouldn't be complaining, in my opinion. You're not buying a temporary license either, it's valid until the universe as we know it ends. Unless of course you break the license agreement you agreed to when you installed it, which you should have read before buying it.

That being said, I don't like the way product activation is implemented. I'm making a lot of hardware changes and reinstalls myself, so it just ends up being a bother. I own a license for XP Pro, but I downloaded and installed the corporate edition to avoid product activation.

[Odaisé Gaelach]

DRM also describes the process whereby Microsoft can at-will disable your entire system if they think you pirated Windows. http://www.computerworld.com/action/...icleId=9004970 Remember, you aren't buying Windows, you're buying temporary permission from Microsoft to use Windows until they decide to take your permission away.

You mean that we're going to have to buy Windows legally now?

Keep in mind though, that without this built-in DRM, you would most likely not be able to watch HD DVDs at all. This is isn't MS' fault , it's decided by that HD DVD interest organisation which most Hollywood studios are members of. I forgot its name.

Aye, I remember reading about that in a magazine somewhere.

[Xander]

I am not a fan of change and new things so I will probably ignore it until I am forced not to

[Shoeberto]

Widespread reports of trouble with both hardware and software incompatibilities for expensive cost and loss of rights to my media, with pretty much the only up side being a nice gui that can easily be recreated using theming software?

If I'm going to use an OS that's incompatible with Windows apps, I might as well stick with Linux. At least I won't be forking $200 for eye candy that I can get for free.

[Yamaneko]

I'm pretty sure any media downloaded illegally won't be rendered useless under Vista. The DRM stuff is mostly for media aquired legally, but which prevents it from being extracted from its original source. You'll still be able to rip DVDs/CDs. It's the hi-def content that will be blocked without the appropriate hardware.

The main drawback of Vista right now is the poor driver support, especially in the 64-bit environment.

[Dr Unne]

I got to experience Vista today, and it was amazingly underwhelming.

[qq=Mirage]I also have a hard time believing Vista will add DRM to your non-DRMed audio files, and that it will prevent you from ripping an album with CD-Ex.[/qq]

MS's Zune does add DRM to non-DRMed audio files. Vista may not (yet) but who knows later.

[Yamaneko]

That would probably be illegal.

[Mirage]

Zune is a music player capable of letting other Zune players listen to your music on the go, is it not? Not quite the same as an operating system.