Windows Vista

[fantasyjunkie]

Right now, my XP works fines on everything I do, including my games. But if XP ever stops supporting Eyes on Final Fantasy I'm gonna have to find some $$$ to upgrade to Vista fast!

[rubah]

The neat thing about the web is that it doesn't go obsolete that easily.

[o_O]

I'm pretty sure any media downloaded illegally won't be rendered useless under Vista. The DRM stuff is mostly for media aquired legally, but which prevents it from being extracted from its original source. You'll still be able to rip DVDs/CDs. It's the hi-def content that will be blocked without the appropriate hardware.

The main drawback of Vista right now is the poor driver support, especially in the 64-bit environment.

Yeah, at the moment, that is correct. I have updates turned off, so that I none of the updates which have not just misleading, but false descriptions (frankenbuild, for example) are installed without my knowledge; and so that I can opt out of all "Windows Vista Updates", while installing the stuff that might actually be legitimately useful. Hopefully that's protection enough from any of the DRM changes that might occur.

And yeah, hardware support is still crap in build 6000. The plus side is that stability seems to have increased substantially since 5744.

The lack of generic hardware support out of the box really is not acceptable. It's not as if the manufacturers of devices need to code Vista drivers, because most pieces of hardware use a chipset not developed by their manufacturer; for example wifi cards generally use a chipset such as Marvell or Atheros, etc. and will operate under drivers for their respective chipsets. It's not a question of whether or not the manufacturers of the hardware are going to make Vista drivers, but whether or not Microsoft will actually include those drivers in Vista.

[Owen Macwere]

I am not a fan of the size of the icons or the whole shape. I think I'll wait for a while too. Windows XP isn't any bad.

[Mirage]

All that can be changed, you know.

[Iceglow]

the up one level problem several people have mentioned is not a problem for me (I get it from others on other sites I frequent) simply where the path is listed scrolling left to right on the top of the "save file" or "documents" folders ect simply click the icon to the left of the last one it goes up one level. I know it's not as simple as the whole backspace or up one level button but it works just as quickly when you get used to it.

I am slightly concerned about DRM as my friends and me are always sharing music with each other and I am wondering if they send me an album will it work?

Also I have huge issues with some of the inbuilt tools for the system, such as the included extraction program for zip files. The 3 meg zip file I had to open earlier came up with a predicted time of 1hour 20 minutes and I wasn't using more than 30% of the processor and 40% of the ram on my laptop. I quickly cancelled and got myself WinRar.

Though the most annoying of the problems I have encountered is the lack of a Run command on the start menu.

[Nominus Experse]

Anyone know of a program that gives me the same look and effects as Vista's visual style?

I am, like most, going to remain with XP for the time being, most notably due to the shady DRM and the fact that I will be unable to be give up the Up one level button.

Whenever I purchase my new computer, however, I most likely will upgrade to Vista.

[Owen Macwere]

Anyone know of a program that gives me the same look and effects as Vista's visual style?

I am, like most, going to remain with XP for the time being, most notably due to the shady DRM and the fact that I will be unable to be give up the Up one level button.

Whenever I purchase my new computer, however, I most likely will upgrade to Vista.

I got mine from this site. I don't know where exactly, you can look around and find it, sorry.
There are some other good themes that have cool looking Start menues and colours.
They are just VISUAL themes not complete ones.

[crono_logical]

Though the most annoying of the problems I have encountered is the lack of a Run command on the start menu.

I thought that's integrated into the Start Menu now as that text box near the bottom? Or I could be remember things slightly wrong from my brief period of having a look at Vista

[Iceglow]

chrono that search box doesn't work half as well as the run command did. I had to use it earlier to find a folder and in the end went off to manually hunt it down.

[o_O]

The start search box does work in the same way as the run dialog, however. It's a sub-par replacement for the run box (which was probably the best thing about XP), so if you still want to access it, press Window+R to bring up the old one.

[q=Nominus Experse]Anyone know of a program that gives me the same look and effects as Vista's visual style?[/q]
This isn't so much a program as it is tweaking XP desktop settings. It means you don't get the hulking overhead that Windowblinds or Astonshell dumps on you.

<a href="http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/1089/make_xp_look_like_vista_longhorn_free">Click for guide</a>

[rubah]

five points to quicksilver, eh?

[Leeza]

I am, like most, going to remain with XP for the time being, most notably due to the shady DRM and the fact that I will be unable to be give up the Up one level button.

The <i>Up One Level</i> button has got to be my most used button at work. Are you sure this is gone with Vista? We're getting new computers there soon and I would really hate to be without that button.

[Loony BoB]

...up one level button?

I feel so out-of-touch with this new fandangled stuff being mentioned in this thread.

[Giga Guess]

...up one level button?

I feel so out-of-touch with this new fandangled stuff being mentioned in this thread.

You know when you're browsing files, and you have that button that takes you to the file that holds the file you're in? That's the "Up-One-Level" button.

And if that goes, so help me god... *shakes fist.*