How are FFXII and Tactics alike?

[TRANS_AM409]

This is all very enlightening. I wonder if even more of ff titles actually take place in ivalice such as VII since cloud is in fft?

[McLovin']

I personally think that FF6 took place in Ivalice...or at least the story of FF12 may have come out of it.

[.:kerrod:.]

Erm, im pretty sure FF7 doesnt take place in Ivalice, seeing as Ivalice is a country, not a freakin' planet Another reason it's impossible is you can travel the world (and the seven seas, everybody's lookin for something...Eurythmics anyone?) and there is nothing to suggest there was ever more than one race living there. I dont like how the other 4 species of...people...are absent in tactics, but suddenly appear in the rest of the games...and what is a seeq? all i know of is: Human, Viera, Bangaa, Moogle and Nu Mou(sp?).

[BG-57]

I just realized something. The history of Tactics mentions that St. Ajora was betrayed and executed by priests of Fara. The FFXII beastiary includes some side information about Ajora founding a monotheistic religion in opposition to the polytheistic religion of Faram (led by the Grand Kiltias), which is on the wane.

Fara=Faram

[McLovin']

Erm, im pretty sure FF7 doesnt take place in Ivalice, seeing as Ivalice is a country, not a freakin' planet Another reason it's impossible is you can travel the world (and the seven seas, everybody's lookin for something...Eurythmics anyone?) and there is nothing to suggest there was ever more than one race living there. I dont like how the other 4 species of...people...are absent in tactics, but suddenly appear in the rest of the games...and what is a seeq? all i know of is: Human, Viera, Bangaa, Moogle and Nu Mou(sp?).

who said anything about ff7?

[BG-57]

If anything Cloud's visit indicates that there are at least three distinct worlds that the FF series takes place on: Ivalice, Spira, and the Planet.

[McLovin']

Unfortunately, the game dudes said that all FF's take place on Gaia except for FF10.

and tactics as well.

[BG-57]

Could you be more specific?

[McLovin']

I can't actually since I don't know what to search for to find the article. I know its in one of threads buried in General FF where one of the Square staff says (summary): "All FF's take place on the world of Gaia." "Spira is another planet and in later generations people 'flew into space' and discovered the FF7 world which is Gaia too I guess."

He didn't talk about Ivalice I don't think so I assume it is a separate world.

[BG-57]

Oh that thread. Yeah, I posted in it, but Tactics makes it pretty clear that Cloud travelled through space. No mention of time travel, which would be required if Ivalice and the Planet of FFVII are the same place:

Mustadio's House
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[Ramza prepares to insert the holy stone, they received from
the robot, inside the weird machine Besrodio found.]

Mustadio: It can't 'morph', can it?

Ramza: I guess you'll find out.

[Ramza inserts the holy stone inside the machine.]

Mustadio: Here he comes!

[Light shines on the machine from above. From the mist a man
appears.]

Summoned young man: What happened? Last thing I remember was
getting caught in the current.

Besrodio: Hum, I've read about this before. It could be some
forwarding device.

Mustadio: Forwarding device?

Besrodio: You know, to travel to other worlds, different
space.

Ramza: So, he came from other space?

Besrodio: Maybe. Look at his clothes, Quite unusual.

Summoned young man: My....name's Cloud. yes...Cloud.

Ramza: I'm Ramza. They're my friends....

Cloud: I don't care about names. What I need is a battlefield.
Yeah...that's it...I'm a member of SOLDIER.

Mustadio: What a jerk!

[A strange sound starts to ring in Cloud's head.]

Cloud: What's this? My fingers are tingling... My
eyes...they're burning... Stop...stop it.... phiros...

Mustadio: He's strange.

Cloud: I must go...must go to that place...

[Cloud runs out.]

Mustadio: Who was he?

[The party runs after Cloud.]