Nintendo's Comeback

[Shoeberto]

Great. Another stupid ****ing thread that will do nothing but bring out the worst in everyone. Let me save you all some trouble before this thread eventually turns this way.

Nintendo sucks.
Sony sucks.
Microsoft sucks.
Blah Blah Blah.
Bitch Bitch Bitch.
Bias Bias Bias.
Nonsense.
Bull****.
My console can beat up your console.
Useless, irrelevant facts.
Off-topic console hate.
Links to sales figures.
Because I say it, it's true.
Everyone must think like me.


There. No need to read the rest of the thread.

I'm almost inclined to close this thread because Sephex is so right on this.

[Frozen Phantom]

Great. Another stupid ****ing thread that will do nothing but bring out the worst in everyone. Let me save you all some trouble before this thread eventually turns this way.

Nintendo sucks.
Sony sucks.
Microsoft sucks.
Blah Blah Blah.
Bitch Bitch Bitch.
Bias Bias Bias.
Nonsense.
Bull****.
My console can beat up your console.
Useless, irrelevant facts.
Off-topic console hate.
Links to sales figures.
Because I say it, it's true.
Everyone must think like me.


There. No need to read the rest of the thread.

QFT

[NINJA_Ryu]

What Nintendo need to realise is that it isnt the hardware that was there problem, it was their software.

This is true in two ways. As you mentioned, sometimes their games aren't all that different. Mario is Mario, and it's unlikely to change. People who are tired of Mario won't buy it, but folks who like the franchise know what to expect and will likely enjoy it.

Then there's the fact that Nintendo games often overshadow 3rd party games on their system. No game on a Nintendo system can compete with a Mario or a Zelda, regardless of either game's quality. Historically, people who buy Nintendo systems buy it for those games. This (along with other big reasons) is what scared developers away during the N64 era and carried over into the Gamecube. Now, the biggest game developer in the world is willing to accept that fact and strive to be "Number 2".

I think the Wii has tremendous opportunity to bring a lot of 3rd party games to the system. The fact still remains that Nintendo Games will likely continue to be the 'Holy Grail', but if Nintendo is successful in expanding the market to former 'non-gamers' there would be more potential buyers. A lot of developers are intrigued by the Wii's 'gimmick' which is drawing them in already, and I'm sure the fact that Wii is easier/cheaper to develop for is very attractive.

So, the Wii will likely see a lot of gimmicky games and simple stuff for the 'new gamers'. I think we all can agree on that. The new trend is to port games over from the PS2 (and the PSP o_O), so we'll see quite a few of those too. We will see some original, quality games coming in the future that would cater more to a less casual gamer, but those take time. A company can probably pump out 5 or more 'party' games in the same time it would take to develop a 'real' game. If Nintendo's momentum keeps up and more people will buy their games, hopefully it will give the 3rd parties some incentive to bring out some 'real games'.

excuse the language, but holy mother of f***ing awesomness!!!!!!!

Spore, for the DS!!!! Wee!!!!

[escobert]

The DS kicked everythings ass so yes.

[Slicksword45]

How will Spore go on the DS. It's to... Internet-ey...

Now on topic, You can't realy say they made a comeback untill we see everything. I want more non-suckey game. (Zelda being the only good one....) O well. I'll wate till 2008 before I think if they make a comeback or not

[fire_of_avalon]

You have to have experienced a failure before you can make a comeback. I don't see what Nintendo has failed at.

[JKTrix]

How will Spore go on the DS. It's to... Internet-ey...

Now on topic, You can't realy say they made a comeback untill we see everything. I want more non-suckey game. (Zelda being the only good one....) O well. I'll wate till 2008 before I think if they make a comeback or not

The DS is 'Internet-ey'. Spore's creator has expressed interest in bringing the game across several platforms including 'next-gens' and cel phones. It's probably something that can be scaled proportionately to the system. Sim City is coming soon on the DS.

Zelda isn't the only 'good' game on the Wii, it's simply the highest profile--which I addressed in my previous post. Nintendo's big franchises will always be the first thing the average observer sees, and people would just say 'Wii only has Zelda'.

And like foa said they haven't really failed. Though a 'comeback' in this case would refer to them regaining popularity and market share, rather than returning from a failure.

[Tifa's Real Lover(really]

did nintendo suck before?

[escobert]

The 64 and GC didn't do so well did they? I mean not horribly but not what they would have liked.

[Roto13]

The 64 and GC didn't do so well did they? I mean not horribly but not what they would have liked.

Yeah, they made money and everything, but they really didn't do as well as Nintendo had been anticipating.

[ljkkjlcm9]

well in all honesty, nintendo made money on every gamecube they sold, it took Sony 5 years before they turned profit on PS2. So while they had a lower market share, they did make a lot of money.

THE JACKEL

[escobert]

But, they have a higher market now with the DS killing every system out there and the Wii is doing pretty well.

[JKTrix]

The Mario says Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) will be amazing. Was gonna make a separate topic for this, but it serves better in here.

Mario Galaxy is going to be the most exciting, amazing fun ever. I played a little preview of it and I had goosebumps of joy and was giddy with laughter. The new Wii controller has so much versatility and makes possible all these things you could never imagine doing before.

It is like magic. This game takes it to a completely different level for Mario. I’m not allowed to reveal yet what I say in Galaxy but I can tell you there will be some surprises.

(Source: Kotaku and original source)

My 3D mario experience hasn't been too spiffy. I didn't have a 64 and the DS version I got for free didn't impress me, and neither did Sunshine. But I keep hearing from people who managed to play the demo of Galaxy that it is great. I couldn't really tell that from the little bits of video I've seen, but I guess 'playing is believing'.

He also mentions 'surprises' when talking about what he/Mario says in the game. Is he going to rap or something? Or perhaps there will be more 'story' to the game?

Mario is still a very powerful franchise. Despite the lukewarm critical reception, Sunshine is the 3rd top-selling game on the GC (and the top 2 feature Mario in one form or another). Mario Galaxy will move systems when it comes out, as there are a lot of not-quite-a-fanboy Nintendo fans who are waiting for more games.

[chrisfffan]

its great to see Nintendo back i loved playing super mario and zelda ages ago but once the ps3 comes along its game over!

[Yamaneko]

I will not buy a Wii until it can prove itself like the DS. I don't want every game to be some quirky Wiimote-crazed adventure. We also need to see some mature titles. And for goodness sake, they need to get rid of the awful Friend's Code system. If they don't they will fail in the online sector once again.