GTA 4

[Madame Adequate]

Vice City was more playable than San Andreas, while San Andreas definitely had better gameplay, it just didn't have the awesome factor of Vice City.

Completely agreed. San Andreas simply doesn't have something that Vice City does. Maybe it's 'cause we's a couple of white-as-white-bread crackas, but VC > SA, even though SA is actually more accomplished in technical/gameplay terms.

[Old Manus]

<blockquote>gtai4 should start off in 2014 and tommi vercetti and (SPOILER)cloud and cJohnson ® in prison & it is like prison break and tommy is old and part cyborg but so is cj and when they break out they go to home and tommy vercetti becomes inducted into Groove Street Famz because he helped cjiddle to escape from the prison remember back there and he will help fight a new wave of evil ballas but this time they are golden rebbits with rockit launchers! And tanks to rob the homes... and then victor vance comes back to life and phil. has a dream about vietnam and then you have to steal a space shuttle and drop the bomb on north korea or iranque! the last boss will be mike toreno riding on a dragon who is actual phil collins</blockquote>

I would so buy this.

EDIT: Forgot to say it would be valid

[JKTrix]

I think it says something that Rockstar is calling this "Grand Theft Auto IV" instead of 'GTA6'. They acknowledge that Vice City and San Andreas are spin-offs of the same GTA3 game, so we can expect GTA4 to be different.

They're raising our expectations by giving it the label of being the 4th GTA. I highly doubt there'll be as considerable of a leap between GTA2 to 3, but there better be somethin'.

[Hazzard]

Actually the GTA versions-Liberty stories and Vice stories, do not count as being the third GTA, they are just spin offs, and thats it. There are other GTA'S which game out before the play station 2 versions- in fact there are two others but they rule out the first one, which was made in London, i was once in possession of it but i threw it away, but ive played the second one which was based in the future. All in all they are saying that the first original grand theft autos didnt count, and they are really just acknowledging the ones made on play station 2.

[Hazzard]

Edit-*came*

[Erdrick Holmes]

Future GTA game? I'm gonna actually say some nice things about this for once.

What I want in the next GTA game:

No cheat codes
A silent/nameless protagonist so the player feels more like he/she is playing as him/herself
AI that actually acesses the situation and adjusts accordingly (like if you're in a big gun battle the enemies will do stuff like hide behind walls, throw grenades, duck for cover when the enemy is firing back, start going around looking for whomever is shooting at them when they actually hear the gunshots)
More penilization on the player when he just goes around and doing stuff liking blowing up buildings and killing people
Eliminate offensive racial stereotypes
Make online playable content, like downloads that unlock new cars, cities, missions, etc. Multiplayer co-op missions
RPG-like content where the character's speed/strength/ability to take damage/etc
Heroic missions where the player is rewarded for doing something good, like rescue somebody, bust a badguy, or even take down a purse snatcher.

If they put that in GTA4 might not actually suck.

[edczxcvbnm]

You know what the problem with San Andreas is? The whole thing is just way to big. Vice City was a nice sized city. Not overly big and spacious. San Andreas is fun as hell to play through the first time but I never felt like I could pick it up and run-a-muck like in Vice City due to the size and scale of the game.

[DK]

You know what the problem with San Andreas is? The whole thing is just way to big. Vice City was a nice sized city. Not overly big and spacious. San Andreas is fun as hell to play through the first time but I never felt like I could pick it up and run-a-muck like in Vice City due to the size and scale of the game.

Completely agree, I spent months and months playing Vice City after I had completed it, I had so much fun running and messing about on that game, listening to K-chat while jumping motorbikes off the car-park roof, with San Andreas I completed it in two weeks and loved it, but I just had no real desire to play it again after that.

[Hazzard]

You know what the problem with San Andreas is? The whole thing is just way to big. Vice City was a nice sized city. Not overly big and spacious. San Andreas is fun as hell to play through the first time but I never felt like I could pick it up and run-a-muck like in Vice City due to the size and scale of the game.

Completely agree, I spent months and months playing Vice City after I had completed it, I had so much fun running and messing about on that game, listening to K-chat while jumping motorbikes off the car-park roof, with San Andreas I completed it in two weeks and loved it, but I just had no real desire to play it again after that.

Hahahha, im sure its the other way round, because i loved san andreas and the spaciousness it had, that is what kept me playing it over and over again, vice city was a fairly good game as well, but as i have stated before..NOT on the same class as San Andreas.
In my opinion..

[Comet]

Actually the GTA versions-Liberty stories and Vice stories, do not count as being the third GTA, they are just spin offs, and thats it. There are other GTA'S which game out before the play station 2 versions- in fact there are two others but they rule out the first one, which was made in London, i was once in possession of it but i threw it away, but ive played the second one which was based in the future. All in all they are saying that the first original grand theft autos didnt count, and they are really just acknowledging the ones made on play station 2.

Actualy rockstar have made it like this:

GTA: London
GTA: (The first one)
GTA: 2
GTA: 3
GTA: Vice City
GTA: San Andreas
GTA: Liberty City Stories
GTA: Vice City Stories
GTA: 4

Rockstar is not acknologing that the PS1 GTA's don't count. Some of these GTA's have numbers or names, and there has not been GTA 4 so that's why they are making it now. But they said they may just change the 'IV' to the city the game is based in.

[Odaisé Gaelach]

...but they rule out the first one, which was made in London...

GTA: London
GTA: (The first one)

No, you're both wrong.

There were three seperate cities in the original GTA. They were called Liberty City, San Andreas and Vice City.

London was an expansion pack for GTA.

[MecaKane]

Future GTA game? I'm gonna actually say some nice things about this for once.

What I want in the next GTA game:

No cheat codes

"I'm being a baby, and don't want people to have the kind of fun I don't approve of in this game."

A silent/nameless protagonist so the player feels more like he/she is playing as him/herself

GTA 3 actually? But the characters of Vice City and SA were better.

AI that actually acesses the situation and adjusts accordingly (like if you're in a big gun battle the enemies will do stuff like hide behind walls, throw grenades, duck for cover when the enemy is firing back, start going around looking for whomever is shooting at them when they actually hear the gunshots)

That'd be nice, but not to far off from what San Andreas had.

More penilization on the player when he just goes around and doing stuff liking blowing up buildings and killing people

see the first point I made

Eliminate offensive racial stereotypes

There are no offensive racial stereotypes. There was a white murderous killer, an Italian murderous killer, and a black murderous killer who was really much nicer than the two white ones

RPG-like content where the character's speed/strength/ability to take damage/etc
Heroic missions where the player is rewarded for doing something good, like rescue somebody, bust a badguy, or even take down a purse snatcher.

See most of San Andreas.
Wow Joel, you sure do know a lot about this series you hate so much!