Prove it!!!

[thegirth]

Kotch, that minion of Corneo. He was a pretty bad dude. He tried to rape Cloud while he was dressed as a lady!

in light of this i will be voting other, but my vote will be for Scotch (corneos other lackey) who was way more evil then sephiroth, hojo, jenova, shinra and Kotch put together

[d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x]

CORNEO!!!! r all u guys blind!?

[McLovin']

Sephiroth seemed like he wanted everyone dead in Kingdom Hearts and he wants to destroy the planet with Meteor as well as become a god. Does that not scream "I AM A VILLAIN MWAHAHAHA!" to you?

JENOVA wasn't the main villain because she DIDN'T DO ANYTHING EXCEPT USE SEPHIROTH.

Hojo isn't the main villain in THIS game because he has his own villanious spree in DoC.

[jammi567]

Oh for gods sake, she didn't control him, he did!

[Mavander]

I think that if there's a villain, that's Jenova. ShinRa at the end partly fought with Cloud's team, and Sepiroth's just gone crazy because of finding out about his origins. He was more of a person, to destroy the whole planet... while Jenova appeared long time ago and attemped herself to become a God. Sephiroth was probably helping her, because it meant destruction of the whole lot of people. Besides, he was injected with her cells, so we can't know if he was controlling her, or she was controlling him. I think it's that Jenova controlled Sephiroth.

[Mirage]

Remember that thief who followed you in the Corel prison? He was a mean :(.

[jammi567]

so we can't know if he was controlling her, or she was controlling him. I think it's that Jenova controlled Sephiroth.

yes we can, just look in the Ultimcecia Omega guide, and it says it right there that Sephirpoth was controlling Jenova.

[Mercen-X]

Jenova brainwashed Sephiroth and took total control over him. Sephiroth is a puppet just like Cloud.

No, he isn't. Sephiroth was in control of the brain dead Jenova.

Only after her will had already driven him insane and he cut her head off.

so we can't know if he was controlling her, or she was controlling him.

yes we can, just look in the Ultimecia Omega guide, and it says it right there that Sephiroth was controlling Jenova.

You're funny. You get a gold star.

[BarelySeeAtAll]

i wish i could have out down hojo, but it was only vincents life and Lucretias life he mucked up, and sephis...no, he wouldnt be here without him, ok, ignore that
so i put shinra co. down, they ruined way too much
aha, but, hojo had made sorta sephi, who killed loads of people because of it...oh, someone help me with my thoughts and what i m putting across, i cant!

[jammi567]

so we can't know if he was controlling her, or she was controlling him.

yes we can, just look in the Ultimecia Omega guide, and it says it right there that Sephiroth was controlling Jenova.

You're funny. You get a gold star.[/quote]
errr, thanks. i have no idea why i'm funny, but thanksanyway, yu've made my day now.

[Xurts]

For those that haven't realized it already: Sephiroth was controlling Jenova.

[Dragon Mage]

Indeed. Jenova is dead. But Sephiroth, who basically shares Jenova's cells, can control the dead body of Jenova. Keep in mind that this 'spieces' can control every cell of it's body.

Get it?

[OneWingedAngelSephiroth91]

Hojo
He did seem to cause everything though, he created Sephiroth,wanted Aeris, and experimented with Jenova cells.


PS- The poll says villain so not other.

What I mean is if you think there is a bad guy out there for you to put other and say who. Oh, to let you know, Sephiroth had complete control of Jenova, so when Hojo injected himself with Jenova cells..he was slowly being subjected to Sephiroth's will, and he didn't create Sephiroth either nor did he want Aeirth..just to mate RedXIII and her together is all.

Yes he did. Hojo took his and Lucrecia's baby and had him have Jenova Cells in the womb. If he didn't do that then there would be no Sephiroth.

Your missing my point! I mean that Sephiroth wasn't created from cell to cell by Hojo, he experimented Jenova cell with Sephiroth still in the womb and on himself later on.

Sephiroth seemed like he wanted everyone dead in Kingdom Hearts and he wants to destroy the planet with Meteor as well as become a god. Does that not scream "I AM A VILLAIN MWAHAHAHA!" to you?

JENOVA wasn't the main villain because she DIDN'T DO ANYTHING EXCEPT USE SEPHIROTH.

Hojo isn't the main villain in THIS game because he has his own villanious spree in DoC.

JENOVA WASN'T CONTROLIN SEPHIROTH!!! UNDERSTAND????? HE WAS IN CONTROL OF THE STUPID DAUGHTER OF A METEOR WHO ONLY DESTROYED MOST OF THE CENTRA THEN GOT HER JUST DESERTS BY DISAPPEARIN FOR ALONG TIME! HOJO JUST MERLY EXPERIMENTED WITH HER TO SEPHIROTH AND HIMSELF. PLUS NOT TO SAY THAT KADJA OR HOW EVER YOU SPELL HIS NAME EVEN SAID THAT "It's overwelming that mother would want Sephiroth over me" OR SOMTHING LIKE THAT. ANYWAYS, THE GAME ITSELF EVEN PROVES THAT SEPHIROTH WAS IN EITHER MOST OR ALL CONTROL!!

I think that if there's a villain, that's Jenova. ShinRa at the end partly fought with Cloud's team, and Sepiroth's just gone crazy because of finding out about his origins. He was more of a person, to destroy the whole planet... while Jenova appeared long time ago and attemped herself to become a God. Sephiroth was probably helping her, because it meant destruction of the whole lot of people. Besides, he was injected with her cells, so we can't know if he was controlling her, or she was controlling him. I think it's that Jenova controlled Sephiroth.

Sephiroth was in control. think about it, growing up having supernatural powers that others don't....wouldn't you need to learn how to CONTROL them? And besides, He was apparently in control to go with Cloud to Niemble.

[Dragon Mage]

Yeah, but it's because of Jenova that all this crap happened in the first place. JENOVA IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!!!

And check your facts, some of what you're saying isn't right.

[Cruise Control]

http://www.eyesonff.com/members/wiki...edJenovaThesis

I say Jenova.