>>> Yep, thats exactly my argument, of course I never said we <i>should</i>..Originally Posted by Raistlin
>>> We dont hold the absolute truth about everything, probably the people in the future will think different from us..
anyways, I know you wont understand me but whatever..
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>> The black orb glitters ominously... but nothing happens..
A human's reproductive peak is late teens to early twenties, not mid-teens. Read a book. Or get a bachelors degree in human development like I did. Either way, sixteen-year-olds are not developed enough to have children as successfully as someone just a couple of years older.Yes, they are. Teenagers having raging hormones for a reason.
Also, blim, that's close to true, but sexual peak is not the same as reproductive peak. A woman's sexual peak is significantly later than her reproductive peak (mid to late thirties).
And, black orb, we understand you, we just all think you're completely disturbed. The people in the future will not find pedophilia/necrophilia/rape acceptable forms of sexuality. Society has been moving away from those things, not towards.
although i do not like children...in fact i despise them...but that doesnt excuse the fact that sick men are doign sick things to little kids and abusing them on many more levels than we can imagine. The brain of a child is still growing at the age many of them are raped, or molested. As the molestation continues, the childs brain morphs from a happy state to one of despair and disdain for the world. Children who have been molested at an early age have been known to become homicidle even at the early age of 4. Which is why, i believe all pedophiles should be hanged like that important political figure that i cant remember his name right now.....
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On a side note, would someone mind posting a link to a reference or source that talks of the human reproductive peak?
I ask only because my Googling hasn't really been fruitful, nor has Wikipedia.
Last edited by Nominus Experse; 02-12-2007 at 09:44 PM.
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I never specified mid-teens.
Assertion from Fallacy: Argumentum Ad HominemRead a book. Or get a bachelors degree in human development like I did.
16-year old females are perfectly capable of both pregancy and carrying to term.Either way, sixteen-year-olds are not developed enough to have children as successfully as someone just a couple of years older.
On a side note, I won't further discuss this with you if you feel it necessary to go the route of ridicule to support your assertions. I have said nothing disrespectful to you that would merit this.
I didn't attack you; I implied that I have no reason to believe you know what you're talking about, while this is my specific area of study. So it would technically be an Appeal to Authority fallacy, if you wanted to go there. But at least I know I'm educated on this topic, while all I know about the validity of your claims is that they go against everything I've studied.Assertion from Fallacy: Argumentum Ad Hominem
I didn't say they weren't capable; I said they weren't at their reproductive peak, which was the argument for why it would be perfectly natural for a middle-aged man to find them attractive.16-year old females are perfectly capable of both pregancy and carrying to term.
Homosexuality used to be considered an illness, did it not?
What are you implying?
Most still do. We are still clinging to archaic, discriminatory values.
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>>> Ok..
>>> Only the time will tell, and since we are going to be dead by that time we wont know who was right or wrong..The people in the future will not find pedophilia/necrophilia/rape acceptable forms of sexuality. Society has been moving away from those things, not towards.
>> The black orb glitters ominously... but nothing happens..
when you think about it, there are still young girls being given in marriage to men who are much more advanced in years. Arranged marriages still exist. I have an arranged marriage that was supposed to go into effect when i was 16, but because the times have changed, its more of a personal choice.
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"Go read a book" gives the impression that you want to belittle my knowledge of the subject. What I have studied is of no relevance to this discussion, as it is a personal detail about me. Hence, ad hominem -- an appeal to the person, and not the point of the discussion.
What do you mean by "reproductive peak"? Maybe I misunderstood you.I didn't say they weren't capable; I said they weren't at their reproductive peak, which was the argument for why it would be perfectly natural for a middle-aged man to find them attractive.
Setting that aside for a moment, let's consider something -- images of young girls are plastered all over the place. Whether they are selling common products / services, or blatant pornography, they have become a popular method of advertisement. Since advertisement naturally extends to consumer interest, what does this say about the general population? Either several men are naturally attracted to young girls, or there is an overwhelming instance of pedophilia.
Raped used to be acceptable, hundreds of years ago. I thought civilization was supposed to move <i>forward</i>, not backward. Also, rape is an action, not a sexual orientation.
This isn't EoEO, so I haven't been taking this thread seriously enough to question you knowledge of the subject in a polite way. What you have studies is relevant to the discussion--if you're making claims you should know something about the subject, shouldn't you?
The time at which the human body is best able to produce an offspring. A woman's body is most able to support an offspring after it has fully developed (late teens, at the earliest), and at this point the most desirable genetic material is available. After a woman's reproductive peak birth defects increase either due to damage to her remaining eggs, or just that the more desirable eggs were released before the less desirable ones.
I don't mean sexual peak; I mean reproductive peak. A woman's sexual peak is in her mid-thirties. The function of hormones in the teenage years is to facilitate physical development.
Women in advertisements and pronography are usually in their late teens to early twenties--their reproductive peak. I'm critisizing your notion that it's acceptable for men to be attracted to girls in their mid-teens (sixteen, in your earlier example).
As long as both parties consent honestly, it's whatever. :rolleyes2
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