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    A child can't consent to whatever they want. That's why children have parents.

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    I love EoEO threads in General Chat because I can spam lightly.

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    And if the child can't consent, then it's rape. I never said rape was cool.

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    As long as we're clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by black orb
    >>> Only the time will tell, and since we are going to be dead by that time we wont know who was right or wrong..
    Raped used to be acceptable, hundreds of years ago. I thought civilization was supposed to move <i>forward</i>, not backward. Also, rape is an action, not a sexual orientation.
    >>> Did I mention rape in any of my previous posts?

    Anyways, civilizations move forward until they decay (every civilization decay at some point of history) and a new order with totally different beliefs take the control and create a new society..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShlupQuack View Post
    This isn't EoEO, so I haven't been taking this thread seriously enough to question you knowledge of the subject in a polite way.
    Thanks. I'll be sure to return the hospitality.

    What you have studies is relevant to the discussion--if you're making claims you should know something about the subject, shouldn't you?
    It is relevant to knowledge, but disclosing it in the discussion is pointless. If you can't make an assertion and argue it without saying, "I know more than you" then either your point is weak, or you're being too pre-emptive.

    But going by your reason for a moment, if a psychologist asserted that homosexuality is a mental illness, should I not feel entitled to disagree simply because I've never studied psychology?

    The time at which the human body is best able to produce an offspring. A woman's body is most able to support an offspring after it has fully developed (late teens, at the earliest), and at this point the most desirable genetic material is available. After a woman's reproductive peak birth defects increase either due to damage to her remaining eggs, or just that the more desirable eggs were released before the less desirable ones.

    I don't mean sexual peak; I mean reproductive peak. A woman's sexual peak is in her mid-thirties. The function of hormones in the teenage years is to facilitate physical development.
    Source? I want to verify the last statement particularly.

    Aside from verifying this, I want to add some food for thought: the technical age of a person doesn't quite matter, so much as the traits reflected in their physical appearance. If a young woman looks healthy, then this tells the onlooker that she is healthy and likely a good candidate for reproduction. This then translates into attraction. Since there is generally no difference in appearance between a 16 and 18-year old female, there can be quite a gap of attraction right after puberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black orb View Post
    >>> Did I mention rape in any of my previous posts?
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    >>> At some point of our history society will accept every kind of sexual deviation (we are not civilized enough for this yet), it may take hundred or even thousands of years.. But Im sure society will learn to accept everyone at some point..
    So we should allow, approve of, and endorse people who like to have sex with babies and/or very young children?
    That is a horrific idea. Every kind of sexual deviation? You do realize that this would include things like necrophilia and rape, right? What the HELL is civilized about accepting those kinds of sexual deviance?
    >>> Its just my vision of the future. Im not saying its ok to do all that stuff, even I dont approve those sexual behaviour, thats why I said we are not ready to accept that kind of stuff right know..
    Society always evolve in something completely different If you look at the past of our history many civilizations condemned and committed atrocities and they were ok with it because they thought it was the right thing to do. We are no different from that..
    Either pay more attention to what you're saying, or be more clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youjirou View Post
    What you have studies is relevant to the discussion--if you're making claims you should know something about the subject, shouldn't you?
    It is relevant to knowledge, but disclosing it in the discussion is pointless. If you can't make an assertion and argue it without saying, "I know more than you" then either your point is weak, or you're being too pre-emptive.

    But going by your reason for a moment, if a psychologist asserted that homosexuality is a mental illness, should I not feel entitled to disagree simply because I've never studied psychology?[/QUOTE]
    I didn't say I know more than you, or that you have to have formally studied the topic to know anything. I said I know what I know, and I know what you're saying goes against everything I've studied.
    Quote Originally Posted by Youjirou View Post
    Source? I want to verify the last statement particularly.
    I sold back most of my text books. At this point it's not some fact I look up; it's something I know because I've studied it. It's like asking me to give you a source on how to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

    Not saying you shouldn't ask; just saying I don't have a ready source.
    Quote Originally Posted by Youjirou View Post
    Aside from verifying this, I want to add some food for thought: the technical age of a person doesn't quite matter, so much as the traits reflected in their physical appearance. If a young woman looks healthy, then this tells the onlooker that she is healthy and likely a good candidate for reproduction. This then translates into attraction. Since there is generally no difference in appearance between a 16 and 18-year old female, there can be quite a gap of attraction right after puberty.
    And, since a main point of this thread is what's "civilized," we should recognize that a girl looking healthy and supple does not mean we should want to bone her. The human brain doesn't even fully develop until the early 20's, and the last part to develop is the one concerning logic and predicting consequences.

    Therefore, the most do-able chicks are those in their early 20's. If a male consistantly wants to have sex with women younger than that they do not have some kind of biological excuse, and so are defunct.

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    I'm not implying anything. I just see a lot of the same phrases and ideas tossed around in this thread that I've seen used in discussing homosexuality.

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    And? Do you not see the differences between homosexuality and pedophilia? The two aren't comparable so why even bring it up?

    Are you trying to get on my nerves, rubah? *kick*

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    I'm with rubah on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShlupQuack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by black orb View Post
    >>> Did I mention rape in any of my previous posts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by black orb View Post
    >>> At some point of our history society will accept every kind of sexual deviation (we are not civilized enough for this yet), it may take hundred or even thousands of years.. But Im sure society will learn to accept everyone at some point..
    So we should allow, approve of, and endorse people who like to have sex with babies and/or very young children?
    That is a horrific idea. Every kind of sexual deviation? You do realize that this would include things like necrophilia and rape, right? What the HELL is civilized about accepting those kinds of sexual deviance?
    >>> Its just my vision of the future. Im not saying its ok to do all that stuff, even I dont approve those sexual behaviour, thats why I said we are not ready to accept that kind of stuff right know..
    Society always evolve in something completely different If you look at the past of our history many civilizations condemned and committed atrocities and they were ok with it because they thought it was the right thing to do. We are no different from that..
    Either pay more attention to what you're saying, or be more clear.
    >>> Well, Im just talking about sexual deviation, and that does not involve rape (i hope im clear enough). Raistlin already explained: "rape is an action, not a sexual orientation."
    Its not my fault that everyone here is posting the word rape, rape, rape, rape, rape, rape, rape!! all friggin time.. I just had to quote those posts with the word "rape" to make my reply..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd Eye View Post
    I'm with rubah on this one.
    I already addressed it (briefly) by my definition of illness in my first post. So blah.

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    tl;dr too serious for gen chat.

    Pedophilia is sick and disturbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShlupQuack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Odd Eye View Post
    I'm with rubah on this one.
    I already addressed it (briefly) by my definition of illness in my first post. So blah.
    By your definition, if someone is homosexual and at the same time they feel that it's taking a negative effect on their life, then they are ill, correct?

    What's the difference, Shlup?

    Edit: Gotta go work now.

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