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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion4444 View Post
    They have Holy spell in almost all games.
    In FFVIII: Odin, Ragnarok, and Hyperion are all Greek Mythology.
    Haven't seen any Arab myths so far besides Roman/Greek Myths.
    Odin and Ragnarok are Norse, not Greek. You're thinking of Zeus and Prometheus. (I don't think Prometheus is the end of the world, but it was some kind of disaster, as well as being the giant who gave fire to the humans).

    In the French version of Final Fantasy 8, Quezalcoatl is called "Golgotha", the hill upon which Jesus was crucified, though "Golgoth" on its own in French means "Gigas". Also, one of my friends when playing the game inexplicably renamed "Quezacotl" to "Garuda". When I asked why he'd done that, he said that he didn't know, it just felt right. It kind of does actually; Garuda's one of the FF11 servers and they're all named after summons.

    Still on the subject of French FF8, the Ragnarok is the "Hydre" (Hydra, a multi-headed dragon-serpent thing that the Greek hero Hercules defeated).
    Shiva and Ifrit keep their original names, oddly enough. They're among the very few that do. However, Shiva's "Diamond Dust" is now called "Transcendentale" (Transcontinental) and "Hellfire" becomes "Divine Comédie", after Danté's Divine Comedy... ^____^
    Siren is "Ondine"; "Onde" means a radio wave in French, so there's no mythical connection this time.
    Sacred and Minotaur are known as "Tauros" and "Taurux" (forgot the order) and are collectively known as "Taurus", pretty straightforward.
    Carbuncle is "Ahuri". That's the French word for the less glamorous meaning of "Carbuncle"; a zit or something similar on flesh, as opposed to a semi-precious stone similar to a ruby but darker.
    Leviathan keeps its original name, as does Cerberus, but with the French spelling which I can't remember right now.
    Pandemonia is "Zéphyr", a type of really strong wind or something.
    Alexander is unchanged.
    Doomtrain is "Helltrain". Ah well. At least his attack has a cool new name, "Death Express".
    Bahamut's name is the same, but "Mega Flare" is now called "Ourobouros"! I think that's a dragon swallowing its own tail, a mythological representation of infinity.
    Tonberry is "Tomberry", which is just an alternate interpretation of the Japanese spelling.
    Cactuar is "Pampa". I have no idea what this means, and my French is no longer well-practiced enough for me to understand the fr.wikipedia.org's entry on it.
    Eden is "Orbital". Right.

    Griever becomes "Cronos", a Greek god that symbolises time. A bit (or rather, a lot) of a departure from "something that grieves" but given the whole Time Compression thing it kind of works.

    Not mythical or anything, but Laguna's "Machine Gun" is named in the status menu as "Kalachnikov". Also, Quistis has a whip called "Totally S.M.", with that actual English name.

    More as I remember them, or replay the French version; I'm thinking of doing a continuously updated thread in the FF8 forum about it, taking screenshots as I go because the translation differs so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReloadPsi View Post
    (I don't think Prometheus is the end of the world, but it was some kind of disaster, as well as being the giant who gave fire to the humans).
    Prometheus is just the titan who stole fire from Zeus and gave it to humans. That in itself is a significant event, although still not a disaster of any kind, really.

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    Ragnarok is the place where they placed the titans, such as Hyperion, where they have no power over that land.
    So, it does refer to Greek's former Titans.

    Also, Prometheus didn't stole fire from Zeus himself, but he did forbit him.
    I don't remember him as being a titan.
    I though he was human.
    He could be an Olympian.
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    The Titans were exiled to Tartarus. As has been said, Ragnarok is Norse; it has no role in Greek mythology.

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    @Hyperion444: You're wrong.

    Ragnorak, put simply, is the end of the world in Norse mythology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReloadPsi View Post
    (I don't think Prometheus is the end of the world, but it was some kind of disaster, as well as being the giant who gave fire to the humans).
    Prometheus is just the titan who stole fire from Zeus and gave it to humans. That in itself is a significant event, although still not a disaster of any kind, really.
    It was a disaster for prometheus. He had his liver eaten out by an eagle for ages, until Hercules saved him.


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    Interesting.
    At the day of the Ragnarok, Thor will kill his serpent, but will die of it's poison.
    The 'Midgar' Serpent.

    Roman gained the solar system as they were given their names.

    Encyclopedia Mythica: mythology, folklore, and religion.

    Fenrir is a giant Wolf.
    Relate to the Midgar snake.
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    Balthier is referred to as a Prodigal Son a few times in FFXII...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion4444 View Post
    They have Holy spell in almost all games.
    In FFVIII: Odin, Ragnarok, and Hyperion are all Greek Mythology.
    Haven't seen any Arab myths so far besides Roman/Greek Myths.
    Bahamut is arab. There are more Arab references also. Ifrit, Fafnir iirc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renmiri View Post
    Bahamut is arab. There are more Arab references also. Ifrit, Fafnir iirc
    Yeah, that's right... Bahamut's a giant fish carrying the world isn't he? Then D&D turned him into the Dragon King and the rest is self explanatory.

    Quote Originally Posted by silentenigma View Post
    Balthier is referred to as a Prodigal Son a few times in FFXII...
    That tends to be a generically used term, and FF12 doesn't appear to have the same religious undertones as some of its predecessors.
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    Nothing of what you said ReloadPsi is true.
    Starting with Helltrain... Machine Gun remains machine gun, where did you get the name...
    Note: All ships of FFXII That were said were pronounced in french.

    Edit: Funny, I've doubled checked to make sure I had it rigth, this was my original version. They didn't make the changes....
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    way to raise a thread from february and have two mods post in it xD

    there was a lot of persian mythology (gilgamesh not included) in ffx-2 with such as azi dhaka and angra maintyu that I thought was pretty cool.

    "Totally S. M." huh? We always knew quistis was kinky ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion4444 View Post
    Nothing of what you said ReloadSpi is true.
    Starting with Helltrain... Machine Gun remains machine gun, where did you get the name...
    Note: All ships of FFXII That were said were pronounced in french.
    It's "ReloadPsi" by the way.

    In case you didn't notice, I said that these were name changes in the French translation. What, are you saying that when I played the French version I was actually in some wacky coma or hallucinating or something?

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    FFXII had less of it, granted, but it still had the Grand Kiltias and the mythologically named fiends, ships and weapons.
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    No, you could be right.

    It's just when I saw Helltrain, I knew Hell doesn't exist in french, it's enfer. ReloadPsi
    So what kind of translation is that?
    Especially since you said yourself that it was Japan - French translation and not English - French. ?
    (In a resent FFVIII post)
    Quistis Whip = Totally S. M. ?
    Last edited by Hyperion4444; 10-21-2007 at 06:12 PM.

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