300

[Ashley Schovitz]

This movie was good, it started off slow, but from middle to end it was good. Were the Persians really like that, I was kind of confused i thought Persia was mnorely closely related to what I seen in Prince of Persia games.

[Madame Adequate]

This movie was good, it started off slow, but from middle to end it was good. Were the Persians really like that, I was kind of confused i thought Persia was mnorely closely related to what I seen in Prince of Persia games.

No, the Persians really were like that. Xerxes was nine feet tall for realies.

[Diango12]

Ok thats it!!!

I'm going to lay down a few simple facts about this movie:

1. Sparta was not a democracy!

2. The exaggeration that the Persian force was numbered at 1,000,000 or god forbid more is a fallacy. We have no real estimates from the time but we do know that a population quota from antiquity was way to meager to field an army of 100,000 men let alone 1,000,000.

3. Almost everything important about Agoge was left out in the movie. First I found the remark by king Leonidas that "If those Athenians boy lovers.." somewhat funny considering that in the Spartan tradition of Agoge there was a form of institutionalized pederasty. It was practiced whereby older warriors would engage a male youth in a long-lasting sex relationship. In other words "King Leonidas" got his but rumped! !

Secondly again Sparta and Greece for that matter was no democracy: Slavery was essential throughout Ancient Greece. Most of the ancients considered it not only essential, but quite natural including the Stoics. In other words the Spartans were in no position to be claiming or declaring freedom! King Leonidas himself would have been required to kill a handful of 'unarmed' Helos(Greek Slaves) to conclude his training.

Without having to drag this on I'm going to stop there. The Persian's were nothing like the movie (don’t you dare go saying "oh yeah like that 200 foot elephant wasn't real.. always trying to lie with your book smart..."). This wasn't just a case of "Historical inaccuracies" BLAH! It was a complete and total annihilation of history in the end no one survived!

This movie was based on a comic book from some strung up pompous idiot who thought he could bend and twist history under the pretext of "its just a fiction" screw that! Its just History! *goes into fit*

Rant over.

[Madame Adequate]

It's just a smurfing movie based on a smurfing comic book. At no point has ANY claim to historical accuracy been made in EITHER of the presentations. It wasn't meant to be 'slightly historically inaccurate' or anything like that, it was meant to be some fun based on a particular idea taken from history.

[Ashley Schovitz]

It's just a smurfing movie based on a smurfing comic book. At no point has ANY claim to historical accuracy been made in EITHER of the presentations. It wasn't meant to be 'slightly historically inaccurate' or anything like that, it was meant to be some fun based on a particular idea taken from history.

Yeah Diango12 you just try to ruin everyone else's pleasure by boasting your rants. If you didn't like the movie then just say it instead of trying to bash everyone who liked it. That bash on Frank Miller just shows your envy of him.

[Dynast-Kid]

I don't think many people went to the movie because they were expecting the Hollywood equivalent of a history textbook. I think they went for the stylish fighting, entertaining plot, and the images of hot, muscular Greek men running around nearly naked...Or at least I am.

Just kidding, i'm not old enough to get into R movies, but I really want to see it, and i'm probably gonna buy a bootleg copy pretty soon.

[fire_of_avalon]

My girlfriend failed to be intrigued or excited about this excuse for homoerotic violence movie; I then proceeded to take off my clothes and chase her off a cliff yelling "For Sparta!"

You get five gold stars.

I want to see this movie purely for the nakedness and the hooker boots, and I don't care who knows it.

[Slothy]

It's just a smurfing movie based on a smurfing comic book. At no point has ANY claim to historical accuracy been made in EITHER of the presentations. It wasn't meant to be 'slightly historically inaccurate' or anything like that, it was meant to be some fun based on a particular idea taken from history.

Thank you.

Everyone knows it's historically inaccurate, and no one here who's seen it and loved it really cares. It was never meant to be historically accurate, and if you expected that from anything done by Frank Miller, then I'm forced to laugh at you. It was inspired by the actual battle, but in no way tries to portray it with any sort of realism. In fact, the whole point was to exaggerate pretty much everything and tell it in a way that suited the story Frank Miller wanted to tell, and the battle scenes he wanted to draw. If you think anyone is surprised or angered by these facts you bring up (besides you of course), you're dreaming. Next thing you know you'll be ranting at how God of War is a complete travesty against history. But then, if you see why that'd be rediculous then maybe you can start to see why complaining about the inaccuracy of this movie is rediculous.

Try to look at the movie and the comic for what they were meant to be from the beginning. And for god's sake lighten up; you'll live longer.

[Diango12]

It's just a smurfing movie based on a smurfing comic book. At no point has ANY claim to historical accuracy been made in EITHER of the presentations. It wasn't meant to be 'slightly historically inaccurate' or anything like that, it was meant to be some fun based on a particular idea taken from history.

To hell with that! Look at my post, where the smurf did I say I care one cent about historical accuracy?

The movie was a fiction, yes I mentioned that. It was for the pure non-stop action and violence, yes I agree. But where in gods name does spouting smurfing bull about freedom have to do with fight scenes or the action and violence. Actually I wouldn't be surprised at all now a days violence and freedom go hand in hand. I read the comic I'm actually a fan! I remember the remake made by the series samurai jack and that awesome and to the point.

When did he get off his ass to turn this into some complex where as I mentioned becomes Monstrous horde vs. Angelic arch warriors. :rolleyes2

Fiction or not this is the same example shown in Alexander, where in the hell do they get this crap about freedom where do they get off to try and smudge historical relevance. So in the end tough luck! Your not going to have the convenience of hiding behind "its just fiction" you know full well what load of smudge this movie is. And that remark "Athenian boy lover" just jerked and pissed me off, Athens could have smudged Sparta by just sneezing in the wind. And they made no effort to show that it was thanks to Athens that the Greeks survived the Spartans just held a narrow mountain pass for two days.

Fiction or not the timeline compared to the historical events were very accurate this was based on history like it or not. And in the end history/fact lost.

End of rant!

[Madame Adequate]

And they made no effort to show that it was thanks to Athens that the Greeks survived the Spartans just held a narrow mountain pass for two days.

In one of the single most heroic acts in Human history.

Edit: And yeah, nobody is trying to hide behing "It's just fiction" because nothing else is being claimed.

[Freya]

and the images of hot, muscular Greek men running around nearly naked...

And that's why I didn't feel like a man, I felt more girly. I mean 2 hrs of it. Dang.

[Callisto]

Well that all was fun reading. Honestly, I don't care about the historical accuracy as I went with the mind frame of just having a good time. It didn't disappoint me at all. It was fun, the men were hot, and the violence was awesome. Enough said.

[Germ Hamee]

Fiction or not the timeline compared to the historical events were very accurate this was based on history like it or not. And in the end history/fact lost.

Yes. Based on. Not adapted. There's a difference, and that difference allows artistic freedom.

Your not going to have the convenience of hiding behind "its just fiction" you know full well what load of smudge this movie is.

A "load of smudge" is pretty much the definition of fiction, dear.



I saw the movie this last weekend, and loved every bit of it. I didn't go into the movie expecting some profound, moving story, nor a film adaption of a history book. I got exactly what I expected: Half naked men, pretty colors, mind-smurfing camera play, lots of blood--what a lovely load of eye candy!

[Vincent, Thunder God]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I found a rather interesting precursor to 300... a 1962 film named the 300 spartans! I was researching an old favourite show called the Time Tunnel and I noticed some of the film footage used for an episode of the show was from this little-known film on the Battle of Thermopylae.

The 300 Spartans

The 300 Spartans is a 1962 film depicting the Battle of Thermopylae. Made with the cooperation of the Greek government, it was shot in the village of Perachora in the Peloponnese. The picture was noted for its Cold War overtones, and starred Richard Egan as the Spartan king Leonidas, Ralph Richardson as Themistocles of Athens and David Farrar as Persian king Xerxes, with Diane Baker as Ellas and Barry Coe as Phylon providing the requisite romantic element in the film.

Frank Miller saw this movie as a boy and said it "changed the course of my creative life."[1] His graphic novel 300 is about the Battle of Thermopylae, as is its 2007 film adaptation.

I always suspected most current films were gritty re-hashes of ancient, forgotten foreign films. :rolleyes2

[Raebus]

Hey guys, lets take apart a film and not talk about the entertainment value of it, it'll be fun! Then we could all become film students who mutter about the way its shot or even completely forget about why we watch a film, to be entertained. Oh gosh, that does sound fun!