There should be a GBA only section...

[Frostwake]

I keep seeing threads about lunar ruins and cave of trials and Gilgamesh being in this game and I have no idea what youre talking about, plus lots of people think they rule at the game and its easy and have never played the original...no wonder :rolleyes2 And then some come and say "why do people think the remakes are easier?" BECAUSE THEY ARE!

The ORIGINS remake of FF 1 and 2 for the PS was great, they didnt change the difficulty, only accessibility options such as auto targetting enemies, buying more than 1 at item at a time etc... But these GBA remakes.. give me a break

The FFIV remake is a joke, the monsters and specially bosses dont have HALF the speed of the original ones, and speed is what made this game hard as heck, you got hit 5 times before you could input a command

Just had to vent cuz Im really annoyed by it... more than half of the threads in FF IV are about the GBA remake and no one has any idea of what the original game was anymore

[Necronopticous]

A remake with varied nuances and bonus content does not make a new game. A remake that is easier than the original does not necessarily mean it is worse than the original.

You claim you "have no idea what we're talking about" and you trash the game in the same post. If you want to know what the new content is all about, play the game for yourself. If you get so hung up on a difficulty decrease then you clearly do not like the game for the right reasons.

[Frostwake]

A remake with varied nuances and bonus content does not make a new game. A remake that is easier than the original does not necessarily mean it is worse than the original.

You claim you "have no idea what we're talking about" and you trash the game in the same post. If you want to know what the new content is all about, play the game for yourself. If you get so hung up on a difficulty decrease then you clearly do not like the game for the right reasons.

So now if I want to discuss FF IV I have to buy a GBA and the remake? Please... And "right reasons" is relative... If you dont play for challenge, fine, some people do... Its just that nowadays if you ask for advice or try to discuss X boss people will go "that boss is easy, I killed him on lvl x" and I go "right, now do that on the original" and its very annoying

[Jowy]

Yeah, and you still need to be at Level ~55 to even stand a chance against Zeromus. Ashura? Good freaking luck without Reflect at level 42. Calcabrena? Pain in the ass no matter which version you're playing. Please, name one boss that is magically easier on the GBA version.

[f f freak]

Just stop whining. So what if people haven't played the original.There's no need to get annoyed with them. Also I agree with Jowy. Zeromus is difficult even on that level. I had to get everyone to 65+ to be able to beat him. Have you played the GBA version? If you're unlucky he'll cast Big Bang every single turn in rapid succession. I had to have Porom and Rosa to continuosly heal me. The difficulty of the Zeromus fight can be upped even more by going in there with no white mage. You can't do that on the original.

[abrojtm]

Not to mention that some of the new added Bosses are insane without the proper strategies. Namely Dark Bahamut and Dark Odin.

[Cruise Control]

I found the GBA version to be on par with the originals difficulty. Some bosses made harder like the aforementioned Zeromus. Only two have been made easier (Baigan, and Demon Wall), so stop your bitching.

[Momiji]

I keep seeing threads about lunar ruins and cave of trials and Gilgamesh being in this game and I have no idea what youre talking about, plus lots of people think they rule at the game and its easy and have never played the original...no wonder :rolleyes2 And then some come and say "why do people think the remakes are easier?" BECAUSE THEY ARE!

The ORIGINS remake of FF 1 and 2 for the PS was great, they didnt change the difficulty, only accessibility options such as auto targetting enemies, buying more than 1 at item at a time etc... But these GBA remakes.. give me a break

The FFIV remake is a joke, the monsters and specially bosses dont have HALF the speed of the original ones, and speed is what made this game hard as heck, you got hit 5 times before you could input a command

Just had to vent cuz Im really annoyed by it... more than half of the threads in FF IV are about the GBA remake and no one has any idea of what the original game was anymore

...you really are an idiot, aren't you?

First of all, you say 'no one has any idea of what the original game is anymore', when most of the INTELLIGENT posters here in the FFIV forum have played the original. Furthermore, the only reason that there are more threads here about the GBA version is because it's A) Newer and B) unexplained in the main site (last time I checked it wasn't there, at least.) The reason that no one posts about the original is because A) there's really no need to post about it because it's all explained on the main site and B) everyone already knows about the game and what to do.

Second of all, if you're getting hit 5 times before being able to put in a command in the original, you truly are the worst player I've even seen. Ever hear of 'leveling up'? Try it some time.

And yes, the GBA version IS easier, but that's why Square-Enix threw in those extra bosses. I believe they made it easier for fans who don't want to play through the entire game again at full diffculty just to see the new stuff that was added.

[The black mage]

just calm down Frostwake, just remember that some of us where too young to play it when it came out, And living on the wrong continent.

so we never got the chance to play the orignal.

[Frostwake]

I keep seeing threads about lunar ruins and cave of trials and Gilgamesh being in this game and I have no idea what youre talking about, plus lots of people think they rule at the game and its easy and have never played the original...no wonder :rolleyes2 And then some come and say "why do people think the remakes are easier?" BECAUSE THEY ARE!

The ORIGINS remake of FF 1 and 2 for the PS was great, they didnt change the difficulty, only accessibility options such as auto targetting enemies, buying more than 1 at item at a time etc... But these GBA remakes.. give me a break

The FFIV remake is a joke, the monsters and specially bosses dont have HALF the speed of the original ones, and speed is what made this game hard as heck, you got hit 5 times before you could input a command

Just had to vent cuz Im really annoyed by it... more than half of the threads in FF IV are about the GBA remake and no one has any idea of what the original game was anymore

...you really are an idiot, aren't you?

First of all, you say 'no one has any idea of what the original game is anymore', when most of the INTELLIGENT posters here in the FFIV forum have played the original. Furthermore, the only reason that there are more threads here about the GBA version is because it's A) Newer and B) unexplained in the main site (last time I checked it wasn't there, at least.) The reason that no one posts about the original is because A) there's really no need to post about it because it's all explained on the main site and B) everyone already knows about the game and what to do.

Second of all, if you're getting hit 5 times before being able to put in a command in the original, you truly are the worst player I've even seen. Ever hear of 'leveling up'? Try it some time.

And yes, the GBA version IS easier, but that's why Square-Enix threw in those extra bosses. I believe they made it easier for fans who don't want to play through the entire game again at full diffculty just to see the new stuff that was added.

Hehe, your username sort of does you justice I am an idiot because monsters in the original game are incredibly fast? Did you read the "This game its so frustratingly hard its making me scream" thread?

Right here http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=102855

I think the problem is most people already forgot how the original felt like, and assume the GBA version didnt change much... I wish I could record a video, so I could show you the difference between a boss in my game and the same boss in the GBA version

Or take a powerful monster such as Red Dragons in the crystal zone... Before your whole party acts HE WILL ATTACK AT LEAST 5 TIMES NO MATTER HOW FAST YOU ARE... even when you already have set all the comands... Get it now? It had NOTHING to do with how good of a player I am, they just skip turns or something

And about Zeromus, yes I somehow managed to beat him at avg 55 party, with Rosa casting cure4 every round which was still not enough, and thus only Rosa and Cecil survived the battle... simply because 2000 big bang every round = no chance (and when I say round, its ZEROMOUS round, not even a full round for my party)

Of course, if you play with ATB set to "WAIT" and lower the battle speed to the minimum you might be able to not notice the difference, as for me, I always play on active

Anyway, dispite this difficulty thing, its just frustrating that this is the only "active" final fantasy forum out there, and when I want to talk about a game, everyone only talks about the GBA version...

[Evastio]

the monsters and specially bosses dont have HALF the speed of the original ones

I really have to disagree with you there. A lot of the new monsters in FFIV Advance are way faster than your characters like Magic Dragons, Proto Phases, Platinum Toads, Grudge Puppets, and Golden Toads. Also the bosses are much more faster than your team. I doubt that you could get in 5 hits before bosses like Lunar Asura, Lunar Dragon, Brachioraidos, and Zeromus EG attack you.

[Momiji]

I keep seeing threads about lunar ruins and cave of trials and Gilgamesh being in this game and I have no idea what youre talking about, plus lots of people think they rule at the game and its easy and have never played the original...no wonder :rolleyes2 And then some come and say "why do people think the remakes are easier?" BECAUSE THEY ARE!

The ORIGINS remake of FF 1 and 2 for the PS was great, they didnt change the difficulty, only accessibility options such as auto targetting enemies, buying more than 1 at item at a time etc... But these GBA remakes.. give me a break

The FFIV remake is a joke, the monsters and specially bosses dont have HALF the speed of the original ones, and speed is what made this game hard as heck, you got hit 5 times before you could input a command

Just had to vent cuz Im really annoyed by it... more than half of the threads in FF IV are about the GBA remake and no one has any idea of what the original game was anymore

...you really are an idiot, aren't you?

First of all, you say 'no one has any idea of what the original game is anymore', when most of the INTELLIGENT posters here in the FFIV forum have played the original. Furthermore, the only reason that there are more threads here about the GBA version is because it's A) Newer and B) unexplained in the main site (last time I checked it wasn't there, at least.) The reason that no one posts about the original is because A) there's really no need to post about it because it's all explained on the main site and B) everyone already knows about the game and what to do.

Second of all, if you're getting hit 5 times before being able to put in a command in the original, you truly are the worst player I've even seen. Ever hear of 'leveling up'? Try it some time.

And yes, the GBA version IS easier, but that's why Square-Enix threw in those extra bosses. I believe they made it easier for fans who don't want to play through the entire game again at full diffculty just to see the new stuff that was added.

Hehe, your username sort of does you justice I am an idiot because monsters in the original game are incredibly fast? Did you read the "This game its so frustratingly hard its making me scream" thread?

Right here http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=102855

I think the problem is most people already forgot how the original felt like, and assume the GBA version didnt change much... I wish I could record a video, so I could show you the difference between a boss in my game and the same boss in the GBA version

Or take a powerful monster such as Red Dragons in the crystal zone... Before your whole party acts HE WILL ATTACK AT LEAST 5 TIMES NO MATTER HOW FAST YOU ARE... even when you already have set all the comands... Get it now? It had NOTHING to do with how good of a player I am, they just skip turns or something

And about Zeromus, yes I somehow managed to beat him at avg 55 party, with Rosa casting cure4 every round which was still not enough, and thus only Rosa and Cecil survived the battle... simply because 2000 big bang every round = no chance (and when I say round, its ZEROMOUS round, not even a full round for my party)

Of course, if you play with ATB set to "WAIT" and lower the battle speed to the minimum you might be able to not notice the difference, as for me, I always play on active

Anyway, dispite this difficulty thing, its just frustrating that this is the only "active" final fantasy forum out there, and when I want to talk about a game, everyone only talks about the GBA version...

First of all, my name is a reference to a song. But, you being an idiot and all, I don't think you'd get it.

Second of all, what do you mean 'your' game? Are you assuming I haven't played the original? And no, I've never been attacked 5 times in a row. Either you really suck or your game is smurfed up. I'm betting on the first.

As for Zeromus, even if you have a good party, Edge is bound to die. Rydia and Kain don't last long either. Rosa and Cecil are usually the main survivors anyway, unless you spend some quality time leveling everyone up.

Also, this isn't the only 'active' Final Fantasy forum. Go to the FFVII, FFX, and FFX-2 forums. You're bound to find more threads there suited to your limited comprehension.

[Leeza]

Poetically Pathetic, do not resort to name calling of any member of this site. You can diss his opinion, but do NOT diss him. Enough with this line of posting. If you can't respect the other's opinion when posting, do not post.

[The black mage]

So now if I want to discuss FF IV I have to buy a GBA and the remake? Please... And "right reasons" is relative... If you dont play for challenge, fine, some people do... Its just that nowadays if you ask for advice or try to discuss X boss people will go "that boss is easy, I killed him on lvl x" and I go "right, now do that on the original" and its very annoying

So you never played the GBA version. how can you Dis it if yove never played it. you don't see me dising ff6 of ff3.

[Frostwake]

So now if I want to discuss FF IV I have to buy a GBA and the remake? Please... And "right reasons" is relative... If you dont play for challenge, fine, some people do... Its just that nowadays if you ask for advice or try to discuss X boss people will go "that boss is easy, I killed him on lvl x" and I go "right, now do that on the original" and its very annoying

So you never played the GBA version. how can you Dis it if yove never played it. you don't see me dising ff6 of ff3.

I never played it but I saw videos of other people playing, and I wasnt the only one who commented "how come the bosses are so slow?"

Either you really suck or your game is smurfed up. I'm betting on the first.

Im betting on the second, I checked the monster listings of this site for FF IV and all monsters in my game have at least 50% more HP

Also, this isn't the only 'active' Final Fantasy forum. Go to the FFVII, FFX, and FFX-2 forums. You're bound to find more threads there suited to your limited comprehension.

I meant eyes on final fantasy as a whole, not FF IV... so much for calling me an idiot lol

And yes Im such a noob player... Can you beat Emerald in 1:30? Can you beat FFVIII Omega before he even does Megido Flame without holy wars? Can you kill FFV Omega without using bolt swords or ragnarok? List goes on... Does that make me a godly player? Nope, but does it make me a GOOD player? Sure as hell, so stop throwing insults around like youre better than me.. Just face the facts instead, the game is much harder, period