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    Samsung has a new 22" LCD with a 2ms (gray to gray) response time, model number 226BW.

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    I haven't really bugeted for a monitor - my current one works perfectly well. If I bought the Samsung 21" I'd use up £352.49 of my budget!

    EDIT: Thinking about this...

    Case & PSU
    System board, CPU & RAM
    HDD
    Graphics Card
    DVD+/-RW
    Card Reader
    Total: £620.31

    Not sure what else I might need, though. It looks like the case comes with enough fans and I imagine I'll need some sort of modem? Thinking of going wireless, actually, don't know what I'd need to get that done.

    One bonus of all of this is I'll finally be able to clean-slate my existing PC and set it up with Linux and finally learn my way around it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamaneko View Post
    Samsung has a new 22" LCD with a 2ms (gray to gray) response time, model number 226BW.
    Yes, but it has massive backlight bleeding problems. Especially the one I saw in the store (and ones I've read about). Not to mention all the 22" use a panel that does not suppot 8-bit colour (as much as they try to prove it). Not to mention you can't adjust it as much as you can the 21" which is a huge bonus (you can even turn it portrait for your graphical needs) -- as well as a **** load of different connections (AV, Component, etc) and nice features.

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    I haven't really bugeted for a monitor - my current one works perfectly well. If I bought the Samsung 21" I'd use up £352.49 of my budget!
    Yeah but it's so worth it! What is your overall budget anyways?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Omecle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB View Post
    I haven't really bugeted for a monitor - my current one works perfectly well. If I bought the Samsung 21" I'd use up £352.49 of my budget!
    Yeah but it's so worth it! What is your overall budget anyways?
    £600-800! It's not worth it. xD

    Maybe in the distant future. I'm probably going to buy a 32"+ HDTV next year anyway, I'm sure I can just plug my PC into that.
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    If you go the Linux route then it's a given that you'll want an Nvidia GPU. ATI support in Linux is pretty terrible.

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    Linux will be going on the old machine, not the new one. I thought Linux is easily capable of going onto any old XP machine?

    EDIT: My current (old) machine has a 32MB Nvidia.
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    Linux is certainly capable of going onto almost any machine; just without a nVidia GPU, you'll find generally X is less stable (particularly with composited environments like XGL), and driver support is less readily available. Nonetheless, with a 32MB graphics card in the old machine you won't be bothering with composited environments anyway.
    nVidia looks after its Linux community pretty well.

    I agree that you don't really need a new monitor. If your old one works fine there's no reason to switch (unless it's really crappy. ).

    The machine you have picked out there is pretty decent and I don't think you'll have any trouble with it. The weakest link would be the graphics card, but that's not too much of a problem if you don't do a lot of gaming/3d stuff. The GPU will be able to handle Oblivion just fine, so there's a 'benchmark' for you.

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    So is there anything else I'd need, such as a modem? I just don't know if I've got everything there or not...
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    I agree with Yams and Face's general postings.

    For CPU, get a Core2 Duo. I like AMD, but if you look at the prices and performance, AMD only has a better price/performance ratio in the lowest speed dual core chips. If you buy anything faster than the base level, buy a Core 2.

    As for power supplies, I used to use Antec power supplies (a lot of them), but recently their quality control has decreased significantly and they are not worth getting now. I highly recommend many of the CoolerMaster and Corsair power supplies. (Unless you are running SLi or a huge RAID/JBOD of harddrives, you don't need any thing larger than about 400W)

    As for Vista, I've been using it for 8 months now (beta and the release versions through our MSDN subscription at work), and it is definitely not worth using yet. It is more headache than benefit and XP Pro is still a valid alternative. Stick with 32-bit, especially if you are getting less than 4GB of RAM.

    For Graphics, instead of a 7300 (which is slow), at least go for a 7600GS which offers a great price/performance ratio for its price bracket.

    Best of luck with this computer build.

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    It's also £98.69 xD
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    True, but a 7300 won't last long speed-wise.

    I guess it really depends on what you want to do with the computer. (I only scanned the previous posts, so apologies if you already spoke about this.)

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    The plan is to get a cheap-but-okay graphics card for now and wait until the DirectX10 compatible cards are at a lower cost.
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    I don't know if £600-800 will get you a computer that will still be decent in 4 years time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB View Post
    The plan is to get a cheap-but-okay graphics card for now and wait until the DirectX10 compatible cards are at a lower cost.
    I see. That works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB View Post
    So is there anything else I'd need, such as a modem? I just don't know if I've got everything there or not...
    Some motherboards will have a 56k modem built in, but if you're using an DSL or cable connection, you probably have a DSL/cable modem/router already and don't need to worry about that. All you need to be sure of in that case is that your motherboard as onboard 10/100 LAN capabilities.

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