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    There isn’t a single person here who could say they used summons in the game. Fighting those bastards always had a trick to it and they always started or finished with a wipe out move (party killing). Like Ultima's holyja which worked until I finally ripped the skirt off that whore.

    The problem is while they pawned you pretty good they can't even take on a pack of wolves without being killed before they can even make an action. Where the hell is Bahamut when you need him!

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    They are pointless.

    So many times I've summoned one, then I head away from the danger to try to cure myself somewhat, and the stupid AI of the esper means he follows me...I'm thinking "Nooo! Attack the Boss! Dont bring it near me >_<"

    Anyway, further on into the game they literally take one hit to die, they are a waste of MP in my opinion, just like Quickenings are (unless you know for a fact your quickening is going to finish the Boss off).

    You collect them for fun only I guess

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    Use them once for fun, more than that and they equal=dung.
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    I've got Belias and Mateus and I've only summoned Belias once, no one on my team has learned Mateus though and I really can't be bothered to either.

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    The best way to take care of your espers in combat is to cast Bubble, Protect, and Shell upon them and use your summoner as its healer. Some people recommend fighting in tandem, but usually when you bring out a summon, it is because you are fighting something big, not a few Steelings, so being a healer is not so bad when your esper is dealing out damage and hopefully working towards their ultimate attack.

    I use espers sparingly because, yes, they are still pretty much useless.

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    I used summons. There I said it, so what you said in your first sentenc phails. XD


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    I used Belias in Ozmone plains to get past the big ol' upright wolf groups of three.

    I may use ultima because she likes to obliterate things in her path 8)

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    I like looking at them more than actually using them. Although, in all reality, that is just about all they're good for...
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    espers are bad game
    it be a garnie no no

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    I really like Espers (I only have Belias but still) There quite useful for quickly dispatching enemies in the earlier parts of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtrava View Post
    They are pointless.

    So many times I've summoned one, then I head away from the danger to try to cure myself somewhat, and the stupid AI of the esper means he follows me...I'm thinking "Nooo! Attack the Boss! Dont bring it near me >_<"

    Anyway, further on into the game they literally take one hit to die, they are a waste of MP in my opinion, just like Quickenings are (unless you know for a fact your quickening is going to finish the Boss off).

    You collect them for fun only I guess
    I totally, completely agree with the above post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diango12 View Post
    There isn’t a single person here who could say they used summons in the game. Fighting those bastards always had a trick to it and they always started or finished with a wipe out move (party killing). Like Ultima's holyja which worked until I finally ripped the skirt off that whore.

    The problem is while they pawned you pretty good they can't even take on a pack of wolves without being killed before they can even make an action. Where the hell is Bahamut when you need him!
    I haven't seen FFXII's sommons before, anyway...Bahamut is a airship (Not a summon) just like Iflet.

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    For me, the problem is usually because the summoner of the Esper gets killed to easily with all of his/her MP gone, which kind of sucks when facing large groups of enemies or really powerful enemies.

    But they still have been sort of helpful. Belias did help me kill many Marks that would have normally been too strong for me to face. For example, I beat Ring Wyrm at around less than lvl 20 thanks to Belias. And Marilith too, which I beat at around lvl 20 as well thanks to Belias.

    Though the problem is when I face enemies that summon little minions to help it (and they are usually more powerful than me too) such as Adremmalech (I think I spelled it wrong) and the summoner is usually the one that gets killed before Belias.

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    Yeah pretty much. Quickenings are a better spend of mana (especially once you start being able to make chains of 9+).
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    I haven't seen FFXII's sommons before, anyway...Bahamut is a airship (Not a summon) just like Iflet.
    Bahamut is a giant fortress not an airship. And Ifrit is not Iflet O_o
    Last edited by Diango12; 03-13-2007 at 09:37 AM.

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