Who find's summons all but useless

**xtrava** · 03-13-2007, 01:55 AM

Bless him. :P

**Ashley Schovitz** · 03-13-2007, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by Diango12

I haven't seen FFXII's sommons before, anyway...Bahamut is a airship (Not a summon) just like Iflet.

Bahamut is a giant fortress not an airship. And its Ifrit not Iflet O_o :p

Yeah and you were just saying how you wished he was a summon in it right? I know the summons are pratically useless I've only used each one once except for Adrammalech and Famrit which i just didn't feel like using. I thought the reason why they were dying so much was because I didn't level up my Espers. They really should've used them like they did in X X's were way more useful.

**Northcrest** · 03-13-2007, 04:14 AM

I have only 3 Espers and surprisingly use them alot especially Belias he helped me alot against the Ring Wyrm Hunt. Yeah but i do miss Bahamut alot busting out all of the Mega Flares right when you need them most.

**Diango12** · 03-13-2007, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by Ashley Schovitz

I thought the reason why they were dying so much was because I didn't level up my Espers.

Well Espers level up as you do, the higher your character level the higher the espers HP and stats become. You wont get any new moves or action's though

I have only 3 Espers and surprisingly use them alot especially Belias he helped me alot against the Ring Wyrm Hunt

One good use for the summons is

elemental immunity

Any monster stupid enough to use a single elemental attack is you're perfect chance to bust out some Elemental Espers.

**Wolf Kanno** · 03-13-2007, 06:10 AM

Well to be perfectly honest with you, I find the summons to be pretty useless in all the FFs except for FFIV. So to me, they've always been nothing more than "eye candy" or glorified mages...

I actually use the Espers quite a bit. I just don't use them in Boss fights or major Mark hunts. I usually use them to power level individual characters or to deal with cannon fodder on my way to a mark hunt or the end of the map. Though they do come in handy as Diango12 mentioned with "elemental immunity". Of course there are summons like Chaos and Ultima which are actually pretty good overall as long as you watch the battle and try not to get swarmed. Usually, my caster gets killed before my summon does so I find the stats of the beast to be okay.

**No.78** · 03-13-2007, 06:05 PM

When I first got Belias, he pwned. When I got Mateus, well I got Adremelech shortly afterwards so he didn't look too good in comparison... Adremelech, wow, he was floating around killin stuff like Freeza or soemthing O.o
I just got Cuchulain, could be a little more helpful but, his one hit pwntage is... well, pwntage. I love espers so far! And they do come very useful in boss battles, I beat the 2nd judge without doing anything, Adremelech did it all for me.
I love Espers as much as Quickenings. <3

**Reles** · 03-13-2007, 06:15 PM

Hm I don't know. I'm partial to summonings I guess. Sometimes I'll summon and it'll do as much damage as my three-player party would if I just whack at things normally. I do like the prettiness of it all though.

? I guess they'd be more useful if it were fire against ice and so forth.

**No.78** · 03-13-2007, 06:19 PM

All but useless means "Everything BUT useless" implying they're awesome. So, fix the title lol.Unless we've changed your mind

**Remon** · 03-13-2007, 06:22 PM

Espers are bad because they consume MP!
I use them if i get ambushed by strong enemies.It seems that Espers can attract foes.That's the only thing they're good for though

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**Diango12** · 03-13-2007, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by No.28

All but useless means "Everything BUT useless" implying they're awesome. So, fix the title lol.Unless we've changed your mind

Ahhhh! PAWND XD

And I have not changed my mind those espers are useless. Though I did find Belias to be useful in opening the door to Gurvegan. They are also good for dispatching elementals and entities. And that mini sin's (Zodiark) ultimate attack is pretty damn good for wiping out Archadia and the like with a grand total of 50,000 Damage!

**rubah** · 03-13-2007, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by No.78

All but useless means "Everything BUT useless" implying they're awesome. So, fix the title lol.Unless we've changed your mind

No, it means that they're right at the peg under useless. Think about it a little harder. You could use them to kill flies or something.

if you aren't convinced, consider Obi Wan Kenobi's comment in ANH, "The Jedi are all but extinct".

They aren't quite extinct, but they're the next thing to it.

**Renmiri** · 03-13-2007, 10:30 PM

I love using Exodus, Zalera or Zeromus to kill tose pesky dogs at Golmore or Baknamy on the the Necrohol when they gang up on my party.

They should change the name from Esper to "Esterminator" though. The fiends drop like flies!

**Nominus Experse** · 03-13-2007, 11:12 PM

It's much more efficient to run about with your normal party. Especially when you hit level 50 or so.

**Renmiri** · 03-13-2007, 11:38 PM

Yeah, but more time consuming... Zalera justs clears a path like magic

**Melodies_of_life** · 03-14-2007, 03:10 AM

I only use my summons for fun or if I have a character that is low level, but that's about it.

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